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AIBU?

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Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 08:56

I’ll try keep this short.

Myself, brother and dad moved away from our hometown 15 years ago. We all lived together until 10 years ago where brother left for hometown and I left to be where I am now (40 minutes away from my dad, 2hr 20 away from hometown).

I’ll add at this point that during the initial stages of us all living far apart I used to get the train to see my brother and his now wife but felt like I was overstaying my welcome after a few nights, when they then had their DC it just kinda became not an option for me to get the train down and stay. However, upon issues with my husband myself and my then 18 month old daughter did go and stay for 2 nights upon me having some issues with her father (my brother collected us from home and drove us there). Everything was great! I was pregnant with my second child at this point.

I want to add also that neither of my children have been great travelers and both have created so much in the car they’ve eventually made themselves sick, my husband also didn’t have weekends off until 3 months ago when he changed jobs.

2 years ago my brother got married, my children were 2 and 6 months and the journey there and back was just awful, hysterical crying all the way on the journey home from my 6 month old, causing my 2 year old to feel like as horrified and we had 2 lots of sick to clean up from them on the way home (we pushed it and didn’t stop as we just thought it would prolong the agony).

Anyway, I haven’t seen brother since then.

This weekend they are visiting somewhere with their child and coming to see my dad and my family is only a 30 minute additional drive on top of a 4 hour one, but would split their journey up and of course, they’d see everyone.

When my dad asked my brother he didn’t reply, so I asked and the answers were really frosty. I knew deep down that he didn’t want to see us and was expecting a mundane excuse as to why and this happened yesterday. I was told they didn’t want to come as their 7yo was tired after 2 days of (fun activity).

I felt really upset by this, and told him so. I asked him not to use child tiredness as an excuse not to spend an additional 30-40 minutes in the car and split his journey up.

He spat back that the reason he doesn’t want to make the effort is because nobody makes it for him.

They both drive, I don’t. They have a 7 year old, I have a 2 and 4 year old who have never travelled well until recently where we have been pushing journey times. As soon as my husbands job changed the first thing I did was express to my brother that we will visit for a day out soon, I send cards for birthdays yet never receive them here, I send presents (at Xmas I bought and wrapped them for his DC, my children received amazon parcels) whenever we talk it’s always me opening the conversation.
He’s snapped that I only see him when in crisis (I’ve been a few times when having issues with my partner).

We weren’t included in his wedding, we felt like an afterthought. I’ve leant him money before he got with his partner and never expected it or fussed about it being given back. I’ve never treated him differently because we’ve not seen each other, we’re both guilty of needing to make more effort and I’ve never held him to account for having more tools to do this (car and driving ability).

I’m really hurt, it has been clear that his partner doesn’t like us, and that’s fine. We’re civil enough, she doesn’t have to like us. But this? I dunno. It just doesn’t seem like my brother at all.

Am I being unreasonable? Or is he?

Thanks for reading so far if you have....

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floraloctopus · 27/05/2019 10:42

YABU. You need to make an effort as well if you want to see him/his family.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 27/05/2019 10:42

He dropped everything to come and get you when you needed him but you cat dying has excluded you from seeing him for 2 months when you could easily have gone. Add to that you you apppear to blame his wife for everything, dont like the fact he orders your children's gifts from Amazon and then seem to think his child being tired isnt a valid excuse for not visiting it really isnt surprising he doesnt want to make an effort. Liking someones facebook post is not making an effort.

Janedoughnut · 27/05/2019 10:45

OP why don't you suggest to him that you pick up your dad and then drive to somewhere near legoland where you can all meet for a coffee before he goes home.

You know, actually make an effort to see him rather than expecting him and his family to add extra time to a 4 hour journey.

Like others have said I don't think you've made an effort in the past to see him so now is your chance to show him that you are willing to.

Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 10:49

@sweeneytoddsrazor I didn’t care about the amazon parcels, it was just to say that they don’t really make any effort with us at all where as I try though even though I can’t physically get there.
Well we can now, but clearly not wanted tbh.

I do care about him, I’ve spent many evenings crying about this and even asked my husband about moving away to be closer so it’s easier for me to see them without needing my brother to come here or my husband to drive me.

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Isth · 27/05/2019 10:51

This is tedious to read! Honestly it sounds like your brother out himself out to help you when you needed him, and you’ve never put yourself slightly to even visit him once you found a handy excuse (or ten) as to why you couldn’t possibly.
Look, accept you’ve been a bit shit in terms of making an effort, stop bitching about his wife (because I promise you, he’ll know how you feel about her and who’s side do you think he’ll take?) and get down to visit him. You don’t need to stay with him, do a night in a travelodge or something, just put yourself out for more than half a second.

Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 10:52

Ok so consensus is that I’m in the wrong.
I should’ve got 2 trains and had to rely on buses to see them, at a huge expense with 2 under 5s.

He’s not in the wrong at all for not coming up here at all or to see my dad for at least 5 years, instead of easily driving up with a happy enough travelling child and only coming if I’m at the cusp of a breakdown and I need help.

Yeah ok.
I’m a bit surprised but I knew I’m to blame but didn’t think I was to blame this much

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StrippingTheVelvet · 27/05/2019 10:52

You're saying neither of you make any effort. But he DID make an effort and then stopped because it wasn't reciprocated. You are going to have to accept that if you want to see him, it is your turn to travel to him.

DockerDre · 27/05/2019 10:53

You weren't screaming at the Michelangelo by any chance?

slashlover · 27/05/2019 10:55

only coming if I’m at the cusp of a breakdown and I need help.

But he came.

AGAIN, has your DH had no annual leave in the last 2 years where you could have gone? He had no way to take a weekend off?

Have you invited your DB and his family to yours in the last two years?

sweeneytoddsrazor · 27/05/2019 10:59

But he has made an effort with the Amazon parcels. Either him or his wife has selected a gift for you and your children and arranged for it to be delivered to you. They have simply cut out the going to the shop to purchase it then going to the post office to send it. You thinking it isnt making an effort is an example of why he isnt going to be bothering anymore.

Isth · 27/05/2019 11:00

Fucking hell, why did you even bother posting? Such a shame that barely anyone is agreeing with you and your am-drams eh.

Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 11:08

@slashlover tbh no, he changed jobs just after our son was born and then lost that last year, we had no income for 6 months. We have only just landed back on our feet financially tbh. It’s the 4th job in 2 years and with 6 month probation periods and stuff he’s barely had a week off.

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Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 11:09

Bar the unemployed period which we had absolutely no income at all and my mil was paying our bills for us.

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mummyhaschangedhername · 27/05/2019 11:11

But your brother has made effort. He has come and got you and taken you home when you have had issues with your husband. I would certainly feel used.

Didn't you say your away next weekend? If that's the case, why is it ok for you to go away (which presumably means travelling) but not go and see him.

It seems like you have a lot of hostility towards your sister in law, could this be clouding your judgement?

I get travel sickness, I get it and my husband does, I have four children. Two with autism who also have travel sickness. We still travel! I just pack a bag with spares and wipes and bags etc. I use travel sickness tablet and bands ... we prepare for it. I get it does require more effort, but equally are you saying you never travel?

Honestly, I've done two days of theme parks with my lot and there is no chance I would want to stop off on the way back somewhere, especially when relationships are frayed already.

slipperywhensparticus · 27/05/2019 11:12

All the excuses in the world but you dont need to visit to keep in touch you can call text stay interested in his life he has a point

And my kids get travel sick just give them a tablet ffs

StrippingTheVelvet · 27/05/2019 11:12

We can continually go back to you with why didn't you x, y , z? But there are people in life that will always have an excuse. And it's always someone else's fault. So there's no point.

Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 11:14

@slipperywhensparticus I do. I always text him, if I didn’t I wouldn’t hear from him. I text, send cards, send wrapped gifts, as soon as the situation has changed and we can go up during the weekend to see them all, I’ve firstly told him that we’d like to.

I’ve tried. My dad visits him, every few months yet he doesn’t want to drive to his today because none of us apparently make any effort.

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Kanga83 · 27/05/2019 11:15

I can see his point of view (having been at that end and finally in the last two years gone F it to quite a few extended family).

But, back to yours . If there's tension and animosity I can completely see why he wouldn't want to take his young child from a nice trip for the holidays to see family he/she doesn't really know and likely the adults will be tense. I'm the same with my kids now- I won't drag them into grown up mess and I've learnt that my kids come first and that means no toxicness from any side to wreck that. And it wouldn't just been a 30 mins detour, it's adding extra time for a child plus the hours extra of an actually visit and it would no doubt be tense. It does work both ways, but once the kids have an understanding and a 7 year old would (my 5.5 year old certainly does) then your outlook shifts to make the small unit more special. I don't think you can just blame his wife.

Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 11:17

@Kanga83 there genuinely wasn’t any until last night when the truth came out. I got the train up there many times before I had kids, it gradually just stopped on both sides when we both had kids.

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Widowodiw · 27/05/2019 11:18

Yabu: so in those two years you have never tried to visit him again? I get your children are not good travellers but for gods sake you will never go anywhere! Take a bucket with you for sickness and any crying you just got to lap it up. He’s travelling 4 hours already and you expect him to do more?!

ChicCroissant · 27/05/2019 11:19

Still comes back to the same point though, OP, he's expected to travel no matter what and you don't think you should. It is so one-sided from what you've said here.

Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 11:20

@Widowodiw we’ve been gradually building up our journeys and just about feel ready to try travel up there, with my husbands job scenario and their busy life it’s only been something viable recently.

It’s not just the kids that have stopped us, it’s a mixture of everything.

The situation is the same where it concerns my husbands family too, but they’re 4 hours away and don’t hold it against us.

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slashlover · 27/05/2019 11:23

Why didn't you get JSA/UC?

Also, did you invite your DB to visit you? Actually invite him?

only coming if I’m at the cusp of a breakdown and I need help.

I'm wondering if your DB doesn't like you DH. Several times you've had to leave the family home, where your DB has had to drive nearly 5 hours to collect you with his DC in the car, an apparently your DD wasn't too sick then. Your DH has had 4 jobs in 2 years.

Ellisandra · 27/05/2019 11:24

10:52 post. If that’s the kind of passive aggressive shit you throw, I wouldn’t visit you if you lived next door.

Jellybeansincognito · 27/05/2019 11:28

@slashlover no she wasn’t, but it was effort. My son is much worse and it rubs off on her.
They’re much better now, I was looking forward to seeing them.

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