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To think throwing milkshakes over people is disgusting?

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GrumpyCatLives · 20/05/2019 13:00

So apparently it’s okay to chuck milkshakes over people we disagree with?

Now, I do not like Tommy Robinson, Carl Sargon, or Farage. However, I think that chucking cold food at them, or threatening to, is pathetic. If you disagree with them, then debate them. Take down their argument intelligently. Chucking a cheap milkshake makes you look like a toddler.

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BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 13:55

Presea - are you seriously suggesting that the police were part of the MDL protest?

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 13:58

Police walk with a group of young men heading towards a potentially volatile situation. So far so normal.

What happened next?

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 14:01

Are you still denying it happened? And that the camera is lying?

Do you know what, yes, the police might as well have been a part of it, because they lead them there, and stood idly by as rocks and eggs were thrown. I’ve shown you a video of the police leading them there. I’ve shown you a video of the police doing fuck all as rocks were thrown.

I’m going to ask again, can you see they police acting in an identical way if this were an EDL and not an MDL march? The pictures posted just now show a very different picture of how EDL marches are policed.

Rather than being outraged that I’m saying the police might as well have been part of it, can you explain to me why you think there’s is such a disparity in the policing of this MDL march, and that of other EDL marches?

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 14:02

The fact that you’re asking ‘what happened next’ shows you didn’t bother watching the very first video I linked to, so what was the point of asking for a link?

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 14:06

Sorry-I wasn’t prepared to go any further into a blatantly extreme right website.

The fact that you think there something wrong with the police walking with a group of young men walking towards a volatile situation suggests you are not impartial in this. The EDF has form for intimidation, provocation and violence- hence the greater police presence.

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 14:14

I mean- Gateway Pundit! Seriously???? Grin

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 14:16

You’re calling me impartial, yet won’t watch a video unless it’s linked to the ‘right’ kind of website.
You’re saying this with no irony?

The video shows the masked men launching rocks, and the police doing fuck all about it. At one point it sounds as if a gun shot goes off.

If the police are leading masked men to a volatile situation, wouldn’t it make sense to, you know, police them when they get there? This is the point I’m making FFS. Why were they not surrounded when they got there, to ensure it didn’t all kick off?

While we’re on the subject, which MSM outlet would tout as being totally impartial? Because I don’t trust any of them not to peddle their own agendas.

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 14:19

Plenty of right wing MSM. What did the Sun have to say about it? Or the Telegraph?

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 14:24

I’m sure you can google whatever the MSM did or did not say about it. It’s not difficult.

You think the police would have led an EDL masked march, and allow them to throw shit and stand by and watch. I don’t.

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 14:26

Why were the MDL not contained when they reached their destination (which the police led them to) do you think?

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 14:27

I know it’s not difficult. I was giving you the opportunity to have another go at putting your point of view from a source that’s a little less batshit.

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 14:28

Where is the footage of the police leading a masked EDL march, and then standing idly by as rocks are thrown?

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 15:46

“Leading” is such a strange word to use.

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 16:12

Police were at the front, MDL were walking behind, what verb would you use?
This is getting tedious now.

Seriously, what even is your point? Because you don’t seem to have one, apart from being contrary.

If you think this is normal policing, show me where the EDL have been policed in the same way. Show me the police watching the EDL throwing rocks and doing nothing.
Or if not, explain to me why the police were ‘escorting’ these men ‘towards’ a ‘volatile situation’ then allowed them to kick off and throw stuff. What was the point of ‘escorting’ them, if they were not going to prevent them from being ‘volatile’ at their destination?

Why did you ask for proof this happened, and then accuse the camera of ‘lying’ when you didn’t even look at the footage because you didn’t like the ‘source’,and then accuse me of being impartial.

Ps the source of the video is the person who filmed the video, presumably a member of the Muslim Defence League.

Seeing as you're not actually giving me anything to go by, I can only assume that the answer is you’re not even interested.

So what even is your argument?

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 16:31

The video you linked to at 13.44 shows a group of young men, some of them with scarves over their faces, walking along a road with two policemen and a couple of official observers walking along, mostly beside, sometimes slightly in front of them. No suggestion that they were being led or guided by the police. They seemed to know where they were going.

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 16:36

So you don’t have a point?
You don’t have any opinion as to why the police stood idly by as rocks were thrown?
Cool

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 16:40

no indication they were being led
You’re honestly being ridiculous now

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 16:42

“You don’t have any opinion as to why the police stood idly by as rocks were thrown?
Cool”

If they did that was very wrong. You haven’t shown me anything to suggest they did. The police say that a few people committed violent acts and will be arrested and charged.

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 16:43

So where do you think the police should have been walking?

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 16:43

police standing idly by after leading them there

fairybeagle · 27/05/2019 16:45

I agree with you OP. Dislike those people but this type of behaviour gets people no where and is actually counter productive

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 16:46

If they did that was very wrong OMG, so what have you even been arguing about?
The police walked them there, (by walking in front of them) and then did nothing as they threw shit. They were wearing balaclavas and scarves covering their

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 16:47

I’ve shown you this video already, but you refused to watch it, because you didn’t like the ‘source’
What is your argument?

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 16:51

So. Leading them there means “walking in the same direction”. Got it.

I repeat. Where were the police supposed to be walking? Behind? Or do you think they should have just arrested them all?

PreseaCombatir · 27/05/2019 17:00

I said leading and not walking in the same direction because the police are CLEARLY in front and the men marching are walking behind them.
It’s on film, it could not be more clear.
You’re sounding ridiculous now.

Here is footage from the other side.
Why is it do you think that the police are much more aggressive towards the people who are not throwing rocks, than they are towards the ones who are?
Or are you going to argue that black is white again?

I’m going to ask you again, what is your argument?
Do you even have one?

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