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To think throwing milkshakes over people is disgusting?

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GrumpyCatLives · 20/05/2019 13:00

So apparently it’s okay to chuck milkshakes over people we disagree with?

Now, I do not like Tommy Robinson, Carl Sargon, or Farage. However, I think that chucking cold food at them, or threatening to, is pathetic. If you disagree with them, then debate them. Take down their argument intelligently. Chucking a cheap milkshake makes you look like a toddler.

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ClarkeMurphy · 22/05/2019 15:07

Throwing food does hinder a person's ability to go about their business freely. Which is why you should be prevented from doing it.

Well the man was arrested.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 22/05/2019 15:10

If he was arrested then it is as it ought to be. If people are saying he shouldn't be arrested, on the grounds that they also dislike the person who was 'milkshaked', that's where the problem lies. It seems some people on this thread really do think that

Lifecraft · 22/05/2019 15:36

I do not understand how a man can make rape "jokes" to Jess Phillips, inc saying he would rape her if he had a enough to drink but escapes prosecution but throw some milk over a suit and end up with a criminal record..

I do not understand how you do not understand. Saying something unpleasant to someone is not viewed as seriously as doing something unpleasant.

jasjas1973 · 22/05/2019 15:37

I don't think you can prosecute people for saying things. Even really ugly things.......nor should it be

I agree people should have the right of free speech but with rights come responsibilities.
Farages campaign have forced EU citizens to, in some case, flee the UK, he has made a whole section of the population feel unwelcome.
He even made a new version of a nazi poster in order to stoke fear over foreign nationals.

imho he should be in jail.

Folk have been driven to anxiety, depression and even suicide because of what is said or written about them.

Lifecraft · 22/05/2019 15:39

Well, Nigel is a Very Important Man Person in a Very Expensive Suit saying Very Important Things. Jess is a woman.

Utter rubbish, and well you know it. If Jess Phillips said "I wouldn't have sex with Farage, I bet he can't even get it up" and Farage had thrown a drink over her in retaliation, he would be arrested and she wouldn't.

But Jess Phillips probably wouldn't stoop so low.

SummerWhisper · 22/05/2019 15:47

The levels of hatred they direct towards Muslims actually puts the Muslim community's safety at risk, so although I don't agree with violence of any form towards other people, I have no empathy for them when somebody launches food or drink at them. They are neo-nazis. Never again.

Lifecraft · 22/05/2019 15:56

Farages campaign have forced EU citizens to, in some case, flee the UK, he has made a whole section of the population feel unwelcome.

That's down to the people who voted for this whole Brexit shitshow. If Farage had lost by a large margin, it would all be forgotten by now and no one would have had to leave the UK or feel unwelcome. They might have felt even more welcome if the result had been 90/10 in favour of remain.

Helmetbymidnight · 22/05/2019 16:06

i think thats probably right- and inevitably theres an element of - its easier to blame farage, than dbro, df or aunty marge, or the people at work etc - but sadly, all leave voters handed him influence whether they did it intentionally or not.

ClarkeMurphy · 22/05/2019 16:10

It seems some people on this thread really do think that

There will always be some people who think all sorts of things which are currently against the law shouldn't be. There are ways of dealing with that - campaigning, voting or simply ignoring the law in the knowledge that if you get caught you face the consequences.

In this instance I can't bring myself to particularly condemn the man who chose option c, though I wouldn't have done that myself.

Lifecraft · 22/05/2019 16:17

but sadly, all leave voters handed him influence whether they did it intentionally or not.

Exactly. We had a change in 2016 to swat him like the annoying pest he is. But instead of that, we handed him legitimacy.

It's not Farage's fault that so many UK voters are thick as pigshit racists.

BiBiBirdie · 22/05/2019 16:21

Another reason I feel it's justified. Is anyone aware of his plans re: people with HIV? Apparently, Mr Saint Farage, who some of you are so happy to stick up for at the outrage of a bit of milkshake on his suit, has openly said that, should the dark day come when he is PM (Godforbid) he would ban people with HIV from leaving or returning to the country. So not only is he a disgusting, lizard faced wannabe despot, Trump supporting, racist, women hating, anti-poverty spouting, disabilist, he's also a homophobe. Wonderful.

ClarkeMurphy · 22/05/2019 16:28

bibibirdie, have you ever known someone to be sexist and racist but NOT homophobic? Because I haven't.

Lifecraft · 22/05/2019 16:44

Apparently, Mr Saint Farage, who some of you are so happy to stick up for

No one is sticking up for Farage as an individual. We are sticking up for the principle that people should be allowed to go about their lawful business, without being physically assaulted. Whether you happen to agree with them or not.

By all means demonstrate within the law, with placards, or booing, or hissing or whatever.

I'm amazed this concept is too hard for so many to grasp.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 22/05/2019 16:51

,have you ever known someone to be sexist and racist but NOT homophobic

That makes no sense

Unless ive misunderstood, which is very likely

You can be one of those ...two of those...or three of those...or none obviously

BiBiBirdie · 22/05/2019 16:57

@Rufusthebewilderedreindeer exactly.
It's ridiculous to suggest you must be all free, that they are mutually exclusive.

jasjas1973 · 22/05/2019 17:03

Lifecraft - Farage gave legitimacy to the whole racist shitshow, the vast majority of leaver voters would not be cruel or nasty to immigrants, however, there are the extremes and Farages comments/actions encourage them to come out of the woodwork.

The concept of breaking the law to enact political change is well known and the 'West is often very keen to support it.

Incidentally, Benjamins comments toward Phillips are that he would now rape her if he had enough to drink, to me that's incitement/threatening behavior and he should be charged.... if not, then throwing milkshake at scum like that is legitimate protest.

teyem · 22/05/2019 17:07

The difference between a principle and a gesture is your willingness to put your faith in its values and hold it resolute above other priorities.

You cannot believe in the principle of free speech and its importance as a centre piece of democracy and then simply cast it aside when swivel eyed loons start saying uncomfortable things within the remit of the law.

Gilead · 22/05/2019 17:35

Farage and his ilk have spent a considerable period of time ensuring vilification and marginalisation of minorities. They have actively encouraged racist behaviours but cleverly ensured that they are not to blame for the behaviours they have encouraged. It's not free speech, it's cleverly disguised hate speech; ergo the milkshake is a legitimate process. It's a way of saying fuck off you idiot.

callmeadoctor · 22/05/2019 17:36

This is a bizarre thread!

RedForShort · 22/05/2019 17:38

Reading through the thread Lifecraft I don't think it that posters don't understand it seems they don't agree that throwing food or milkshake is physical assault.

It's is obvious that milkshake being hurled at you is less physically damaging than a brick. But the reason it would have to be included within the term assult is because otherwise you'd need to have a measurable cut off of objects that can be hurled at someone.

Farage is foul and completely odious. He is a conniving populist who will not engage in debate, verbally pluglistic and a master at avoidance; he gaslights through all his u-turns.

Those that can see this are frustrated by his seemily blinkers followers and admirers. Placard protests booing and hissing make no difference, the utter ineffectiveness of this leave his victims and opposers helpless. Along with the fact it all seems to just entertain Farage as he scoffs at them. Very disempowering.

I can completely and utterly understand anyone thinking he deserves milkshake thrown at him. I'd have to dig deep to find sympathy for him to be honest. But law isn't built on how much sympathy you feel, so sadly that man does have a valid reason to complain.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 22/05/2019 17:42

The rise of the violent left wing fascists is quite worrying for this country.

The right have been peacefully debating in these elections but the more the left try and censor anyone with different views the more the right will rise up.

We just cannot sit by and allow the fascist leftists to turn the UK into a police state.

GiantKitten · 22/05/2019 17:45

PreseaCombatir

my annoyance with him is that he ruined the chance of prosecution on some cases because he was in contempt of court and publicised their images
I thought this went to a higher court, and that judge ruled he wasn’t in contempt of court? Was that not why he was released form prison?

That wasn’t why. It was a procedural thing. He’s going to be tried again quite soon (procedurally correctly, to be swiftly followed by a procedurally correct prison term).

He knows he’ll go down again which is why he’s been trying to wriggle out of retrial on the grounds of not liking tinned tuna or something.

TeaForDad · 22/05/2019 17:49

Jo Cox's widower does NOT approve of throwing milkshake at people, as it normalised violence and intimidation

Just saying

Firstworddinosaur · 22/05/2019 17:53

I don't believe there is a place for physical acts of aggression in protest. But if I found myself holding a milkshake next to Farage or Yaxley-Lennon I would be sorely tested. Just being honest.

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