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To want to destroy this man?

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 08:49

I've name changed for this as potentially outting;

Please help - I need some advice. And it’s a long one, sorry!

Long story short is DS football coach and I don’t get on, all stems back to presentation evening last year when I was sat opposite him and could hear him slagging me off to a host of people (at the time he was just another parent, not a coach), to save a massive scene at the time and DH flattening him in front of children etc we left and I sent him a message explaining I had heard him and of course if he had an issue he could of spoken to me face to face like an adult, queue him denying it, and running back to the then coach saying I had started a war with him for no reason etc, huge frosty atmosphere which resulted in him turning quite a few parents against me and making out I was deluded with pregnancy hormones at the time. What he didn’t know was that it was the current coaches wife who actually told me what he was saying as I could only decipher parts from across the table with loud music on!

Anyhow, fast forward almost a whole year and this delight of a bloke has now muscled in on the team and seems to be running the team and coaching, subs to be paid to his wife etc.

Since the day he’s become more involved with the team he’s set out to make my life hell, reflecting on DS.

Some examples are; was asked to pay £5 for a tournament as a matter of urgency I was out in the car at the time so offered to drop payment off if he told me his door number (I knew the street!) - he ignored my message on the group WhatsApp and then did an arsey status about me not paying 🤨

Was told to pay £10 per month subs as a bank transfer to his wife’s current account 🤨 money was to be paid irrespective of whether child could attend or not, it was paid to keep their space and ensure they have the same as others for presentation night/Christmas, have always paid this monthly despite my DS not being able to play/train with them since January as he’s had a pneumo-empyema which he was in hospital for a month with, now long road to recovery. One month, I think it was March, I was late paying subs due to everything going on as well as a newborn baby, he took it upon himself to remove DS from team and me from WhatsApp/Facebook groups as I hadn’t paid 👀 he couldn’t even take the time to drop me a quick message asking what the situ was or prompting payment?! It was humiliating as once I had discovered what he had done, I messaged him, repaid subs and then was added back into the groups 🙈 like some naughty school girl!

Based on what’s been going on obviously DS hasn’t played/trained much but I’ve had to put his welfare first. Anyhow, last weekend there was a tournament it’s the first time DS has been back, he played (was subbed mostly!) and had a medal at the end, the coach then messaged me again on the group WhatsApp stating parents have noticed DS only turned up as there was a medal 🤨🤨🤨🤨 so, I explained I thought I was paying subs for him to have the same as others but he was welcome to have the medal back if he wished! Lo and behold for another message to come through again on the group WhatsApp directed at me saying irrespective of reason if your child doesn’t train they don’t play. Now, I back this to a certain degree, but it’s hardly like my son has had a cold! I thought he would be encouraging of all children, and appreciate they are only children who ultimately are there to enjoy and wouldn’t single any child out for disability basically making it impossible for him to ever inter-grate back into the team as he may not train one week if his chest is particularly bad/hosp appt etc.

Final straw came this week when we were asked to order t shirts for tour, again on the WhatsApp group, I ordered what I needed and was about to make payment by bank transfer to his wife when it said my banking app was updating, so I wrote a message asking could she wait up to four hours for payment or if not could I drop cash off to her. Again my message was ignored, come Monday morning a message appears stating all those who ordered and PAID for their t shirts your order has been placed and for anyone else tough luck! To save DS missing out I messaged the older teams secretary to ask if I could order with her, she said yes, so I messaged coaches wife and said I was going to place my order with older team sec as she hadn’t placed her teams order yet. Queue a private text from her husband telling me I obviously don’t want DS to be part of the team as I couldn’t even order in the same manner as everyone else 🤨🤨🤨🤨

This constant nit picking has gone on too long, and I told him so, which resulted in him quitting with immediate effect unless I removed DS from the team after I messaged him asking why he had made everything as difficult as possible and questioned whether it was purposeful for him to push DS out via me in the hope he wouldn’t return to the team, of course I was rail roaded into removing DS by other parents making passive aggressive remarks that they don’t want to lose coach so would rather lose DS as he hasnt trained/played for months 🤨🤨🤨

Yesterday was particularly upsetting as DS broke his heart coming home from school because his friends were going training but he couldn’t go, anyway, I took him to a different team and he seemed to enjoy, and in all it seems a better team in terms of management and training.

But, I really don’t agree with this coaches conduct and I want to know how best to address it. Is it worth going to the chairman of the club? Or the committee? Or do I just leave it lay?

I’m so upset but equally annoyed this has happened!

Oh and by the way if you think this post is about your husband then it probably is, and my opinion is he's a cunt!

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pineapplepatty · 18/05/2019 08:26

Football teams can be a funny lot.

Just move clubs.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 18/05/2019 08:27

Done Patty - just left seething by this knob and not sure who he thinks he bloody is x

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littlebillie · 18/05/2019 08:31

It can be a horrible sport if the coach is not right, I would leave and move on. The FA come sort on this sort of thing, perhaps write a letter explaining why you had to leave, they take a dim view on bullying

DizzySue · 18/05/2019 08:32

He sounds like an idiot on a power trip...Move clubs and move on, he's not worth your energy. People will be well aware what a dick he is, entering into arguments with him is only lowering yourself to his level.

Having said that not a lot of people are willing to run kids clubs, it's hard work and time consuming - prompt payment is essential, as is regularly attending training.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 18/05/2019 08:33

Do I write this to the FA or club? X

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Walkaround · 18/05/2019 08:33

Well, if he has no DBS check, everyone is paying money into his wife's personal bank account, there is no first aid kit, he plays fast and loose with the personal data he has been given and he is not a qualified coach, then whatever club uses him is in deep shit on safeguarding, data protection, insurance and financial grounds and shouldn't be letting him anywhere near their training facilities. If he's just some stupid Dad among another group of idiot parents who hire a pitch somewhere once a week for an unspecified purpose, no questions asked, and all the parents are happy to entrust their kids to someone like this who probably has no personal liability insurance and no ability to deal with a serious accident should one happen, then you kind of deserve what you get if you stick with him.

BarrenFieldofFucks · 18/05/2019 08:36

Why on earth would you want to meet with him now? Just move on.

Dumdedumdedum · 18/05/2019 08:40

In the immortal words of Eastenders, leave it, 'snot wurf it Grin Just draw a line under it in your mind as soon as you can and make sure your DH stays away from him as much as physically possible in the circumstances. Let your son enjoy the new club, which sounds absolutely great for all of you, and move on - you all win this way. No need to take action against this bully yourself, he'll eventually get his come-uppance one way or another - paying subs etc into his wife's bank account could be quite dodgy and someone other than you will realise it sooner or later, and you'll be well out of it by then.

Splodgetastic · 18/05/2019 08:41

People assume that volunteers are all nicey nicey but the reality is that a lot of them are abusive bullies as shown by the treatment of your son and they shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near children.

Splodgetastic · 18/05/2019 08:43

I was going to say that the abusive bullying of your son who has been is a safeguarding issue as he is behaving in a discriminatory manner towards him, but I thought people might think I was overreacting, but now I see this piece of work has no DBS check etc., so it’s definitely a safeguarding issue and you should contact the FA to protect other people and find another club for your son.

Splodgetastic · 18/05/2019 08:45

I meant to say “of your son who has been ill”. Also making out it was your pregnancy hormones is not exactly PC, is it, so what sort of message does that send out to girls in the club (assuming there even are any)? FA is finally realising that women also play football.

RebeccaWrongDaily · 18/05/2019 08:45

I imagine there is another version of this, and then the truth.

I am sorry your son was ill, however I can imagine the other parents being snippy about their children being subbed so a kid who's not trained can come on and get a medal (I wouldn't behave in that manner but some do)
Regarding the rest of it, it sounds horrendous, the language, the threats about your DH knocking him out, getting him shut down, reporting to the FA etc. - If all the other kids/parents are happy then you could likely spoil everyone's fun due to your issue with this man and are likely to be blamed for it all by all the other families.
You need to move on.

IronManisnotDead · 18/05/2019 08:49

@thesungoesdownthestarscomeup I would write to the FA outlining your concerns. I mean has be had all his CRB Checks, First Aid, Safeguarding ?

His wife is putting the money in her personal account, again another course for concern.

Discrimination against your disabled son.

Threats and Harassment..

I swear we are talking about the same coach, way too many similarities. I'm in a market town in The Land Of The Prince Bishops, I will leave it there...

Jetstream · 18/05/2019 08:50

Move to another club if possible. The man is threatened by you, y ou haven’t done anything. The wife isn’t much better. Also the payments shouldn’t go into the wife’s bank account. Persumably it is a community club so money from parents should go into a seperate bank/ credit union account.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 18/05/2019 08:52

Ironman - believe it or not, we ARENT talking about the same person!!! What makes this worse is there's obviously scrawny little men up and down the country doing this to our children!!! Knobs!

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Elderflower14 · 18/05/2019 08:55

I would speak to someone. He might find someone else to pick on when and if you leave....

IronManisnotDead · 18/05/2019 09:01

@thesungoesdownthestarscomeup

I agree it's disgusting, and I am with you on this because it's ok everyone telling you to move on, but fact is he will continue to bully some other poor child, and that needs to be stopped.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 18/05/2019 09:02

We've left - so almost certain he will find a new target!

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Mymomsbetterthanyomom · 18/05/2019 09:04

Op,they declined meeting with you and your husband??That seems like this 'ol boy is just enjoying the "power" he has. I truly hope you get things worked out,but not if it hurt your son.Good luck Hun❤

ArgyMargy · 18/05/2019 09:05

You seem to be loving the drama and wanting a witch-hunt so YABU.

Having been through years of this with 2 DC, PP are right there's always people like this involved but there are always parents like you who are really hard work. People volunteer their own time to run clubs and teams and are often forced to run around chasing subs and paperwork that parents just can't be arsed to send. One is ok but multiplied several/many times and it can take over your life. And don't even start me on parents who literally do a drive-by drop off and use the club for several hours of free childcare on weekend mornings...

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 18/05/2019 09:06

I know! DH was originally going to ask to meet him without a need for wives there - but I said to DH ask to meet with wives present to prove if he has doubt you aren't looking for a confrontational encounter. He still declined Hmm

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 18/05/2019 09:08

Argy - you're right, now the tables have turned I am enjoying the witch hunt!

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southernsoftiestuckooopnorth · 18/05/2019 09:23

@thesungoesdownthestarscomeup was it a proper club with FA affiliation?

RebeccaWrongDaily · 18/05/2019 09:25

so you need to step away, I don't think there was an original witch hunt- you were third hand told something, then your child was sick (hope he's fully recovered) since then you've had to be chased for money/ tee shirts etc. You didn't turn up for months (other than to get your medal) and seem to be loving the fight.

DH is a football coach, parents like you (seem to be) are a nightmare- I imagine he's relieved to not have to deal with your dramas/ chase you for money.

4legsandawaggytail · 18/05/2019 09:26

I think you should report him with the evidence you have and supply evidence. Take all the screenshots you can. All the emails and communication and send it to more than one person with authority. This way it won't be just pushed aside. Let 'them' decide if this is really the type of person they want working with and influencing children, he clearly has a problem. I would NOT want someone like this to work closely with my child. I'm not sure why you put up with him for so long and didn't move sooner, convenience maybe? Both you and your son will do much better in your new club, who needs the drama. I really hope your son regains full health soon and excels in his new club. You never know, one day you may play against each other. Let karma do its thing. Dust him off and move on. Too much of your mindspace has been taken up on this person as it is.

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