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To want to destroy this man?

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 08:49

I've name changed for this as potentially outting;

Please help - I need some advice. And it’s a long one, sorry!

Long story short is DS football coach and I don’t get on, all stems back to presentation evening last year when I was sat opposite him and could hear him slagging me off to a host of people (at the time he was just another parent, not a coach), to save a massive scene at the time and DH flattening him in front of children etc we left and I sent him a message explaining I had heard him and of course if he had an issue he could of spoken to me face to face like an adult, queue him denying it, and running back to the then coach saying I had started a war with him for no reason etc, huge frosty atmosphere which resulted in him turning quite a few parents against me and making out I was deluded with pregnancy hormones at the time. What he didn’t know was that it was the current coaches wife who actually told me what he was saying as I could only decipher parts from across the table with loud music on!

Anyhow, fast forward almost a whole year and this delight of a bloke has now muscled in on the team and seems to be running the team and coaching, subs to be paid to his wife etc.

Since the day he’s become more involved with the team he’s set out to make my life hell, reflecting on DS.

Some examples are; was asked to pay £5 for a tournament as a matter of urgency I was out in the car at the time so offered to drop payment off if he told me his door number (I knew the street!) - he ignored my message on the group WhatsApp and then did an arsey status about me not paying 🤨

Was told to pay £10 per month subs as a bank transfer to his wife’s current account 🤨 money was to be paid irrespective of whether child could attend or not, it was paid to keep their space and ensure they have the same as others for presentation night/Christmas, have always paid this monthly despite my DS not being able to play/train with them since January as he’s had a pneumo-empyema which he was in hospital for a month with, now long road to recovery. One month, I think it was March, I was late paying subs due to everything going on as well as a newborn baby, he took it upon himself to remove DS from team and me from WhatsApp/Facebook groups as I hadn’t paid 👀 he couldn’t even take the time to drop me a quick message asking what the situ was or prompting payment?! It was humiliating as once I had discovered what he had done, I messaged him, repaid subs and then was added back into the groups 🙈 like some naughty school girl!

Based on what’s been going on obviously DS hasn’t played/trained much but I’ve had to put his welfare first. Anyhow, last weekend there was a tournament it’s the first time DS has been back, he played (was subbed mostly!) and had a medal at the end, the coach then messaged me again on the group WhatsApp stating parents have noticed DS only turned up as there was a medal 🤨🤨🤨🤨 so, I explained I thought I was paying subs for him to have the same as others but he was welcome to have the medal back if he wished! Lo and behold for another message to come through again on the group WhatsApp directed at me saying irrespective of reason if your child doesn’t train they don’t play. Now, I back this to a certain degree, but it’s hardly like my son has had a cold! I thought he would be encouraging of all children, and appreciate they are only children who ultimately are there to enjoy and wouldn’t single any child out for disability basically making it impossible for him to ever inter-grate back into the team as he may not train one week if his chest is particularly bad/hosp appt etc.

Final straw came this week when we were asked to order t shirts for tour, again on the WhatsApp group, I ordered what I needed and was about to make payment by bank transfer to his wife when it said my banking app was updating, so I wrote a message asking could she wait up to four hours for payment or if not could I drop cash off to her. Again my message was ignored, come Monday morning a message appears stating all those who ordered and PAID for their t shirts your order has been placed and for anyone else tough luck! To save DS missing out I messaged the older teams secretary to ask if I could order with her, she said yes, so I messaged coaches wife and said I was going to place my order with older team sec as she hadn’t placed her teams order yet. Queue a private text from her husband telling me I obviously don’t want DS to be part of the team as I couldn’t even order in the same manner as everyone else 🤨🤨🤨🤨

This constant nit picking has gone on too long, and I told him so, which resulted in him quitting with immediate effect unless I removed DS from the team after I messaged him asking why he had made everything as difficult as possible and questioned whether it was purposeful for him to push DS out via me in the hope he wouldn’t return to the team, of course I was rail roaded into removing DS by other parents making passive aggressive remarks that they don’t want to lose coach so would rather lose DS as he hasnt trained/played for months 🤨🤨🤨

Yesterday was particularly upsetting as DS broke his heart coming home from school because his friends were going training but he couldn’t go, anyway, I took him to a different team and he seemed to enjoy, and in all it seems a better team in terms of management and training.

But, I really don’t agree with this coaches conduct and I want to know how best to address it. Is it worth going to the chairman of the club? Or the committee? Or do I just leave it lay?

I’m so upset but equally annoyed this has happened!

Oh and by the way if you think this post is about your husband then it probably is, and my opinion is he's a cunt!

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SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 17/05/2019 09:57

Move on OP. Your son is enjoying the new club, why ewell on the past?

As for the suggestion above re spray painting, absolutely ignore that batshittery.

badlydrawnperson · 17/05/2019 09:58

What he didn’t know was that it was the current coaches wife who actually told me what he was saying as I could only decipher parts from across the table with loud music on!

So you started a war with this bloke based on heresay form someone else about bad things he was supposed to have said about you?

JaneJeffer · 17/05/2019 09:59

Pay on time and take your child to training and you won't have any of these problems.

badlydrawnperson · 17/05/2019 09:59

If the WhatsApp/email/text messsages actually read as you say - then certainly complain to the FA.

HardRockHallelujah · 17/05/2019 10:00

I'm a football coach and to do that you have to be qualified by the FA. The FA is all about inclusion and making football fun for kids. From what you say this coach is not abiding by FA standards. I would take it to them. Football coaching is not about egos, its about the kids. Good luck!

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:00

Thanks all - glad to hear had you all been in my situ you would do the same and move him teams.

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HBStowe · 17/05/2019 10:00

I would complain, and show them the texts. He sounds like a proper little arsehole.

SlothMama · 17/05/2019 10:01

What a nasty little man, it's probably the only place he feels he has power and is abusing it. I'd just stick with the new team and hopefully the other parents will also see the light and move away as well.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/05/2019 10:01

Don’t do that
It is tempting. But I agree. I am so sorry your ds has been hurt. Lots of hugs and reassurance. You are going to have to leave it and hopefully this vile man will be found out. Your ds will be ok eventually. This is a lesson in injustice. Just give him time and teach your ds not all grown ups play fair. But you do and you have his back . Flowers.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:01

I know he's definitely not qualified to coach - I know that. In fact, neither coaches are.

New team all 3 coaches are qualified, so, I guess that speaks volumes.

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PurpleCrazyHorse · 17/05/2019 10:02

Personally I'd find another team and if life is busy and hectic, then I'd not pursue a complaint (as it could drag on and on), but just focus on your boy getting better and enjoying his new team.

I wonder whether just walking away might take the power away from him. It sounds like he enjoys the goading and just walking away without another glance might be just the thing.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:02

Perhaps you're right. Having no reaction from us may bug him more than having one if that makes sense?

Perhaps he's been looking for a reaction all along x

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HBStowe · 17/05/2019 10:03

Pay on time and take your child to training and you won't have any of these problems.

There’s always one who has escaped from the cunt farm. Probably someone who has behaved the same way as the arsehole coach in the past and is scrabbling for excuses. Did you even read the OP where she explained her child couldn’t train due to serious health issues and where she said that on the occasions where she couldn’t pay by bank transfer she offered to take round cash and was ignored?

I don’t understand you. Why would you deliberately ignore all the relevant information just to be a dick? What is it that you get from behaving that way...?

MyKingdomForBrie · 17/05/2019 10:03

@kalopali you sound truly insane.

He's being a dickhead so OP should 'completely destroy' his life??

Also child sex abuse is not something to be lied about, for any reason what so ever. Some things are just never ok.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/05/2019 10:03

Cross post with Hardrock do that.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:03

HB - ignore it, it's probably him or his wife 🤨🤣👀👀

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Lifeisabeach09 · 17/05/2019 10:03

Fuck this man!

Write a letter to whomever hired him, explaining what the happenings and how you felt your son's disability was held against him.

OP, I do feel you should have placed your child in a different club long ago. I, also, feel you should explain to the new coach that because of your son's health condition, he won't always be able to attend sessions.

badlydrawnperson · 17/05/2019 10:04

BTW - you are BU to want to "destroy" him - that's daft for his alleged offences.

Herland · 17/05/2019 10:04

Where I am from football clubs need to be run as charities in order to ensure things like criminal checks are done on coaches etc. This means that there should be a formal structure - chair, secretary etc. It also means that under no circumstances should payments be made to a personal account. What happens to transparency of spending, what happens when money is left over? If these structures are in place then I would complain about the financial aspect alone. I would also complain regarding an ill child being ostracised by a coach. But beyond that I would let it go. Holding on to anger eats away at you while the other person is generally oblivious and happily getting on.

Neighneigh · 17/05/2019 10:04

I think on balance you need to walk away, get your son settled in the new team and forget the old lot. It's not good to get so worked up over this. The only thing I'd do is report them for taking money into a non-official bank account, but I'd do that to the proper authorities and leave them to it. I can understand this has been made into a very stressful thing to go through, but really, you did some things wrong, he's done some things wrong. Just walk, for your own sanity.

HBStowe · 17/05/2019 10:04

Yeah, it probably is! In which case all I have to say to them is 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

TrixieFatell · 17/05/2019 10:05

People with that mindset should not be allowed near children. I’d make my reasons clear as why I was removing my child in a letter to the club and I would see if there was a governing body I could write too.

But I’m a petty fucker 😂

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:05

I've nagged him for the last year to change clubs, but he didn't want to cos all his class friends are in that team, so I thought I could manage it from a distance if that makes sense.

Obviously not.

I so wish with all my heart I had forced the move sooner x

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NCforthisone19 · 17/05/2019 10:06

I'd escalate on the grounds of disability discrimination, myself.

sheshootssheimplores · 17/05/2019 10:07

Honestly do nothing. In my experience (and I am getting on a bit now) these people are intrinsically rotten.

He will continue to bad mouth you for as long as possible, but as time moves on his bad attitude will leak out. It takes time but slowly he’ll upset other people and you’ll start to hear things and eventually he’ll piss enough people off that he’ll flounce or his wife will nick all the subs and they’ll be found holidaying in Marbella with it.

Just sit back and wait.

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