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To want to destroy this man?

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 08:49

I've name changed for this as potentially outting;

Please help - I need some advice. And it’s a long one, sorry!

Long story short is DS football coach and I don’t get on, all stems back to presentation evening last year when I was sat opposite him and could hear him slagging me off to a host of people (at the time he was just another parent, not a coach), to save a massive scene at the time and DH flattening him in front of children etc we left and I sent him a message explaining I had heard him and of course if he had an issue he could of spoken to me face to face like an adult, queue him denying it, and running back to the then coach saying I had started a war with him for no reason etc, huge frosty atmosphere which resulted in him turning quite a few parents against me and making out I was deluded with pregnancy hormones at the time. What he didn’t know was that it was the current coaches wife who actually told me what he was saying as I could only decipher parts from across the table with loud music on!

Anyhow, fast forward almost a whole year and this delight of a bloke has now muscled in on the team and seems to be running the team and coaching, subs to be paid to his wife etc.

Since the day he’s become more involved with the team he’s set out to make my life hell, reflecting on DS.

Some examples are; was asked to pay £5 for a tournament as a matter of urgency I was out in the car at the time so offered to drop payment off if he told me his door number (I knew the street!) - he ignored my message on the group WhatsApp and then did an arsey status about me not paying 🤨

Was told to pay £10 per month subs as a bank transfer to his wife’s current account 🤨 money was to be paid irrespective of whether child could attend or not, it was paid to keep their space and ensure they have the same as others for presentation night/Christmas, have always paid this monthly despite my DS not being able to play/train with them since January as he’s had a pneumo-empyema which he was in hospital for a month with, now long road to recovery. One month, I think it was March, I was late paying subs due to everything going on as well as a newborn baby, he took it upon himself to remove DS from team and me from WhatsApp/Facebook groups as I hadn’t paid 👀 he couldn’t even take the time to drop me a quick message asking what the situ was or prompting payment?! It was humiliating as once I had discovered what he had done, I messaged him, repaid subs and then was added back into the groups 🙈 like some naughty school girl!

Based on what’s been going on obviously DS hasn’t played/trained much but I’ve had to put his welfare first. Anyhow, last weekend there was a tournament it’s the first time DS has been back, he played (was subbed mostly!) and had a medal at the end, the coach then messaged me again on the group WhatsApp stating parents have noticed DS only turned up as there was a medal 🤨🤨🤨🤨 so, I explained I thought I was paying subs for him to have the same as others but he was welcome to have the medal back if he wished! Lo and behold for another message to come through again on the group WhatsApp directed at me saying irrespective of reason if your child doesn’t train they don’t play. Now, I back this to a certain degree, but it’s hardly like my son has had a cold! I thought he would be encouraging of all children, and appreciate they are only children who ultimately are there to enjoy and wouldn’t single any child out for disability basically making it impossible for him to ever inter-grate back into the team as he may not train one week if his chest is particularly bad/hosp appt etc.

Final straw came this week when we were asked to order t shirts for tour, again on the WhatsApp group, I ordered what I needed and was about to make payment by bank transfer to his wife when it said my banking app was updating, so I wrote a message asking could she wait up to four hours for payment or if not could I drop cash off to her. Again my message was ignored, come Monday morning a message appears stating all those who ordered and PAID for their t shirts your order has been placed and for anyone else tough luck! To save DS missing out I messaged the older teams secretary to ask if I could order with her, she said yes, so I messaged coaches wife and said I was going to place my order with older team sec as she hadn’t placed her teams order yet. Queue a private text from her husband telling me I obviously don’t want DS to be part of the team as I couldn’t even order in the same manner as everyone else 🤨🤨🤨🤨

This constant nit picking has gone on too long, and I told him so, which resulted in him quitting with immediate effect unless I removed DS from the team after I messaged him asking why he had made everything as difficult as possible and questioned whether it was purposeful for him to push DS out via me in the hope he wouldn’t return to the team, of course I was rail roaded into removing DS by other parents making passive aggressive remarks that they don’t want to lose coach so would rather lose DS as he hasnt trained/played for months 🤨🤨🤨

Yesterday was particularly upsetting as DS broke his heart coming home from school because his friends were going training but he couldn’t go, anyway, I took him to a different team and he seemed to enjoy, and in all it seems a better team in terms of management and training.

But, I really don’t agree with this coaches conduct and I want to know how best to address it. Is it worth going to the chairman of the club? Or the committee? Or do I just leave it lay?

I’m so upset but equally annoyed this has happened!

Oh and by the way if you think this post is about your husband then it probably is, and my opinion is he's a cunt!

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 12:22

What's a PVG check please? x

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BrokenWing · 17/05/2019 12:32

Think PVG is in Scotland only.

The PVG scheme. The Protecting Vulnerable Groups (PVG) membership scheme is managed and delivered by Disclosure Scotland. It helps makes sure people whose behaviour makes them unsuitable to work with children and/or protected adults, can't do 'regulated work' with these vulnerable groups.

Pollywollydolly · 17/05/2019 12:44

I had endless problems with my sons' football teams. The older one was a few days too old to be in the next team down agewise, he was small for his age and slight and was regularly kicked to bits by a child who was the star of the team and nothing was done. I then moved him to a team with a lovely coach and everything was nicer until a new coach took over and wouldn't accept the fact that due to my husbands shifts and the fact that we only had one car I couldn't always get him to training. He saw no problem with expecting me to walk three miles to training with a baby and a toddler, stand in the cold, dark and rain with them for two hours and then walk three miles home. One of the other boys who was a very good player never went to training because 'everyone else is rubbish' and that wasn't a problem at all.

My younger son was an excellent player and we took great care to find him a team with a nice ethos and coach. Unfortunately he moved to Saudi Arabia and the new coach hated my son with a vengeance. After he had yelled for ages at my son for ignoring his shouted instructions during a match, I quietly reminded him that my son was deaf in one ear and couldn't hear from that side and he put his face close to mine and shouted 'I don't care!' Moved him to a different team with a lovely coach but again after one season he left and was replaced with someone who didn't like my son and made his life as difficult as he could. My son heard a rumour that they were trying to find a replacement goal-keeper for the new season and despite me asking point blank they denied it until the last training session when they told my husband he was being replaced. The icing on the cake was when I got a phone call hours later from the manager's wife saying she would collect his kit the next day as the team were going on a tour to Holland the following weekend. We went to every match and supported the team and no-one had mentioned the tour to us.

If I had any more sons I would NEVER let them play football, children's leagues are full of self important bullies.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 12:55

Wow Polly - how sad for you all!

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FooFightersFan · 17/05/2019 12:58

brokenwing you are correct wrt puberty. Hormones are powerful and can affect attitude and reactions. My DS 'handled' his frustrations by taking himself off to calm down elsewhere. But that was seen as immature sulking. Maybe he was sulking (yeah ok he was sulking) but he was also learning how to cope with his emotions and thus develop his maturity.
When he voiced his displeasure at being taken off during a match one day, he was shoved by the coach and told to "go home".
Can't win.
Sorry for rambling but it was a very emotional time and I'm clearly still affected by it Grin

FooFightersFan · 17/05/2019 13:00

pollywolly How unhelpful. You'd think he could help arrange a lift from another parent.

Figgygal · 17/05/2019 13:00

Definitely new team
He's an arsehole

UnicornBrexit · 17/05/2019 13:01

He's not qualified? That's shocking. I'm surprised a football club is allowing this Could be training as a coach

UnicornBrexit · 17/05/2019 13:04

If I had any more sons I would NEVER let them play football, children's leagues are full of self important bullies

Oh the stories I could tell . Im so glad it's all past now. Its the parents not the kids, who largely just want to have fun and a kick about Frustrated parents trying to live their dreams through kids.

Celticrose · 17/05/2019 13:11

Having the money paid into his wife's account is not on at all. Even if all above board it leaves her open to allegations of misappropriation of funds. How does that work for any auditing. If affiliated to the FA I am sure that they would be a bit Hmm at that situation. Also if it is a sole account if she were to die the account would be blocked and no withdrawals would be permitted. Unlikely but within the bounds of possibility.

regularbutpanickingabit · 17/05/2019 13:37

Yeah, there is a certain type of 'man' who likes the power trip associated with being a sports coach for kids. Feeds their narcissistic needs. Unfortunately they are often brilliant at fooling everyone else around them and leaving the targeted child/parent/family out in the cold despite being an out-and-out bully. Gives decent volunteers and coaches an even harder task and can totally screw with a child's confidence and love of that sport.

The one we suffered from has gone on to change clubs several times over the years and gradually worms his way in with every single place... until they suss him out or don't give him the power and respect he perceives he deserves. Or revere his (perfectly ordinary and average) 'talented' son in the way he thinks he deserves. In the meantime, lots of other casualties are dragged through the proverbial mud and find friendships and sporting opportunities vanish.

There does come a time when the number of people screwed over is greater than the number of people left in the area with the right age group child and it is quite beautiful to watch the prick getting unceremoniously dumped and laughed at now.

Taken long enough but makes me happy.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 13:56

You know what? Based on what you've all written back to me, this seems like most clubs have a knob like this there and it obviously attracts a certain breed of person!

I'm so angry in some ways that I allowed him to target my family in this way x

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Reaah · 17/05/2019 13:56

Even I have a safe guarding FA qualification, so no excuse for people who are actively coaching to not have one.

I was a coach for a sport and had to have the safeguarding qualification and DBS check in place before starting on the actual sporting qualifications.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 13:57

Reeah- did you have to pay for this? X

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Reaah · 17/05/2019 13:58

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup
The sports club I worked for paid for both.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 14:00

That probably answers why neither have this qualification/check - it's payable 😏

Can I ask, is it a requirement for the team to carry a first aid kit?

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Reaah · 17/05/2019 14:14

First aid kid I would assume to be top of any heath and safety requirement musts along with basic first aid knowledge.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 14:16

I would think so to.

Just remembered a while back I asked if I could put DS pumps/inhalers into the first aid kit so we could never be caught short if I were to forget to bring one with me and heaven forbid need it - he laughed in my face and said they don't have a first aid kit x

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Reaah · 17/05/2019 14:22

Half of me says report to FA, the other half says, just walk away, your son now has a better team and everyone else is still stuck with the arsehole.
As others have said, he will soon find someone to pick on as that, is what makes him feel important, his true colours will show and at least the next time the do, you know it won't be you in the firing line.

outvoid · 17/05/2019 14:26

I’m not interested in football and thankfully neither are my DC but if I were in your position, I’d have left the club a longgggg time ago...

This all sounds like so much hassle and I’m aghast at you still paying despite your DS being sick so unable to play for months.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 14:30

That's how I feel Reeah!

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 14:31

Outvoid - I was told I had to if I wanted DS to have the same as others come presentation night so of course I did it! Feel like asking for it all back mind x

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BarrenFieldofFucks · 17/05/2019 14:37

Why was he slagging you off originally? Did that come out of nowhere?

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 14:48

I can't really say cos it's too outing - sorry.

Nothing major thou, upon reflection think he thought it would gain him respect x

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1forAll74 · 17/05/2019 15:16

I hope that your son will be happy in the new club. How on earth do these hideous bullying men, get to be in these positions,working with children ?

I have heard of this type of behaviour before,, the blokes used to be called little hitlers,

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