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To want to destroy this man?

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 08:49

I've name changed for this as potentially outting;

Please help - I need some advice. And it’s a long one, sorry!

Long story short is DS football coach and I don’t get on, all stems back to presentation evening last year when I was sat opposite him and could hear him slagging me off to a host of people (at the time he was just another parent, not a coach), to save a massive scene at the time and DH flattening him in front of children etc we left and I sent him a message explaining I had heard him and of course if he had an issue he could of spoken to me face to face like an adult, queue him denying it, and running back to the then coach saying I had started a war with him for no reason etc, huge frosty atmosphere which resulted in him turning quite a few parents against me and making out I was deluded with pregnancy hormones at the time. What he didn’t know was that it was the current coaches wife who actually told me what he was saying as I could only decipher parts from across the table with loud music on!

Anyhow, fast forward almost a whole year and this delight of a bloke has now muscled in on the team and seems to be running the team and coaching, subs to be paid to his wife etc.

Since the day he’s become more involved with the team he’s set out to make my life hell, reflecting on DS.

Some examples are; was asked to pay £5 for a tournament as a matter of urgency I was out in the car at the time so offered to drop payment off if he told me his door number (I knew the street!) - he ignored my message on the group WhatsApp and then did an arsey status about me not paying 🤨

Was told to pay £10 per month subs as a bank transfer to his wife’s current account 🤨 money was to be paid irrespective of whether child could attend or not, it was paid to keep their space and ensure they have the same as others for presentation night/Christmas, have always paid this monthly despite my DS not being able to play/train with them since January as he’s had a pneumo-empyema which he was in hospital for a month with, now long road to recovery. One month, I think it was March, I was late paying subs due to everything going on as well as a newborn baby, he took it upon himself to remove DS from team and me from WhatsApp/Facebook groups as I hadn’t paid 👀 he couldn’t even take the time to drop me a quick message asking what the situ was or prompting payment?! It was humiliating as once I had discovered what he had done, I messaged him, repaid subs and then was added back into the groups 🙈 like some naughty school girl!

Based on what’s been going on obviously DS hasn’t played/trained much but I’ve had to put his welfare first. Anyhow, last weekend there was a tournament it’s the first time DS has been back, he played (was subbed mostly!) and had a medal at the end, the coach then messaged me again on the group WhatsApp stating parents have noticed DS only turned up as there was a medal 🤨🤨🤨🤨 so, I explained I thought I was paying subs for him to have the same as others but he was welcome to have the medal back if he wished! Lo and behold for another message to come through again on the group WhatsApp directed at me saying irrespective of reason if your child doesn’t train they don’t play. Now, I back this to a certain degree, but it’s hardly like my son has had a cold! I thought he would be encouraging of all children, and appreciate they are only children who ultimately are there to enjoy and wouldn’t single any child out for disability basically making it impossible for him to ever inter-grate back into the team as he may not train one week if his chest is particularly bad/hosp appt etc.

Final straw came this week when we were asked to order t shirts for tour, again on the WhatsApp group, I ordered what I needed and was about to make payment by bank transfer to his wife when it said my banking app was updating, so I wrote a message asking could she wait up to four hours for payment or if not could I drop cash off to her. Again my message was ignored, come Monday morning a message appears stating all those who ordered and PAID for their t shirts your order has been placed and for anyone else tough luck! To save DS missing out I messaged the older teams secretary to ask if I could order with her, she said yes, so I messaged coaches wife and said I was going to place my order with older team sec as she hadn’t placed her teams order yet. Queue a private text from her husband telling me I obviously don’t want DS to be part of the team as I couldn’t even order in the same manner as everyone else 🤨🤨🤨🤨

This constant nit picking has gone on too long, and I told him so, which resulted in him quitting with immediate effect unless I removed DS from the team after I messaged him asking why he had made everything as difficult as possible and questioned whether it was purposeful for him to push DS out via me in the hope he wouldn’t return to the team, of course I was rail roaded into removing DS by other parents making passive aggressive remarks that they don’t want to lose coach so would rather lose DS as he hasnt trained/played for months 🤨🤨🤨

Yesterday was particularly upsetting as DS broke his heart coming home from school because his friends were going training but he couldn’t go, anyway, I took him to a different team and he seemed to enjoy, and in all it seems a better team in terms of management and training.

But, I really don’t agree with this coaches conduct and I want to know how best to address it. Is it worth going to the chairman of the club? Or the committee? Or do I just leave it lay?

I’m so upset but equally annoyed this has happened!

Oh and by the way if you think this post is about your husband then it probably is, and my opinion is he's a cunt!

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:08

Trixie - I'm so consumed with anger purely because it affects DS I'm struggling to let it go, so I feel like being a petty fucker too. But, worried in the long run it'll make things worse for DS and that's all that's stopping me!

I'd love DH to 🤛🏽 him but not even that's an option any longer as now both are employed for same company and DH is senior to him; so, that would go down like a lead balloon!

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CoraPirbright · 17/05/2019 10:08

I would def report him to whatever official body regulates this stuff and the club also. SO glad your son has moved - I am sure he will flourish with the qualified coaches!!

Why was he slagging you off initially? Did he just take a dislike to you or did something happen?

PurpleCrazyHorse · 17/05/2019 10:08

Seen your update. Definitely move. Lots of training doesn't just include sport specific stuff but inclusion and team building etc.

SureTry · 17/05/2019 10:12

Why was he saying about you in the first place? Did you have a falling out with him? Seems like a strange little man to have it in for you so much, I hope your DS will be happier at his new team.

SureTry · 17/05/2019 10:13
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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:13

My main concerns are;

Disability discrimination- how is this fair? DS was a perfectly "normal" 6 year old until this happened. Disability can affect anyone at any time.

Breach of Confidential info & date by posting personal info on WhatsApp group of a sensitive nature x

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BrokenWing · 17/05/2019 10:13

You can't complain about a coach, don't you know they are all volunteers selfishly giving up their own personal time all just for the children so above any criticism or reproach?!?

Unfortunately a significant number of coaches reasons for coaching are not altruistic, they are sad little men on a power trip feeding their own egos and they don't give a shit about the children if they don't play well enough or if they clash with their parents.

You have found another team for you ds, forget the experience from your previous team as they wont care. Pursuing it now you have left isn't because you care about him still being a coach or you would have pursured sooner, you are looking for revenge, dont lower yourself to his level.

Illberidingshotgun · 17/05/2019 10:14

First of all, I'm glad your son has moved clubs, that's the best thing you could have done. I hope he has a great time enjoying the football from now on.

I'm not sure what you can do about it - it will depend on whether the club is an FA Charter Standard community club, or affiliated to the FA in any way. If they are, then clearly there's lots you can raise, no trained coaches, money going into personal accounts, the WhatsApp messages to you etc. However I suspect that they aren't, in which case there's not much you can do.

I know it's difficult, but your anger about this is only going to affect you. Focus on your DS, and try and let go of all the rage, as otherwise you could make yourself ill. If that's how the club is run then there will be other issues with other families, and they will run into trouble eventually.

JaneJeffer · 17/05/2019 10:14

it was the current coaches wife who actually told me what he was saying
This all started because of hearsay
to save a massive scene at the time and DH flattening him in front of children etc
As well as wanting to destroy him - you sound very aggressive

I'm not the coach or his wife thankfully.

UnicornBrexit · 17/05/2019 10:15

Teams are affilliated to the FA - complain

llangennith · 17/05/2019 10:15

Oh go away JaneJeffer. Such an unwarranted and unnecessary post.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/05/2019 10:18

Seeing as your dh is in s senior role, can he let it be known what kind of man he is? If the company is hot on procedure and discrimination, that could blacken his name.

diddl · 17/05/2019 10:19

"it was the current coaches wife who actually told me what he was saying"

I did wonder about that though.

He went running to the coach & coach's wife didn't back you up with her husband or other parents?

Was she shit stirring?

notacooldad · 17/05/2019 10:20

So going back to the begining, why was he bad mouthing you and slagging you off? What was that all about?

UnicornBrexit · 17/05/2019 10:22

Is it worth going to the chairman of the club? Or the committee? Or do I just leave it lay?

I would kick up a fuss, but that's me. Obviously the bit about your DH brawling isn’t a good reflection so I'd keep strictly to the WhatsApp messaging being inappropriate. But in agreeing to join a WhatsApp group as communication method, you do agree to your children’s information being discussed eg Little Johnny cant come today because XYZ, however that should never transcend into personal requests for money etc. General reminders yes.

But having been heavily involved in club soccer, the big thing here is you & your husband brawling at the presentation evening. Other parents will not want to be around volatile people. Regardless of who started it, you have shouldered the blame (why was he slagging you off? what reason? background? cause?).. And club soccer is so competitive and cliquey

thegreatcrestednewt · 17/05/2019 10:22

Go to the chairman of the club. The football club, if it's regulated by the FA. must have a welfare officer and written procedures. I'd also complain that your ds has been discriminated against on the grounds of his illness. Totally shit behaviour.

They should also be above board with payments - making payments into a coach's wife's account is very suspect.

I'd take your ds away and make sure everyone knows why. Sounds like you've had enough to deal with with your ds being ill. Why make your life any harder?

I wish your ds all the best.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:22

Mummy dragon- yes he could, but this will destroy this mans life definitely not hypothetically, which means it will no doubt have repercussions for us...

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thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:24

Diddl- yes big shit stirrer, in fear of being ostracised from the group, she chose to deny saying it until I cornered her as such and she finally admitted it x

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Moorfields · 17/05/2019 10:25

Ask him on the group whatsapp when the club annual financial accounts will be published. If everyone is paying directly to his wife's own personal account then how will he separate the club expenditures from his wife's? Plant the seed of financial irregularities into the heads of the other parents. Not many people will stand up against a bully but they will have something to say if they think they're being fleeced.

UnicornBrexit · 17/05/2019 10:25

NCforthisone19 Fri 17-May-19 10:06:42

I'd escalate on the grounds of disability discrimination, myself.

I've scrolled back, Im missing this one - what disability ?

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:26

Creatednewt - thank you, all you've said seems to have struck a chord! We are best away from it all. And thank you for well wishes for DS

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IHateUncleJamie · 17/05/2019 10:26

I'd love DH to 🤛🏽 him but not even that's an option any longer as now both are employed for same company and DH is senior to him; so, that would go down like a lead balloon!

Well, not to mention that your DH would most likely be charged with assault. So hopefully you’re joking here.

I get how angry you are - quite rightly about some of the things that have gone on - but what you need to do now is escalate this and take the emotion out. Emphasise the unprofessional way this man is conducting himself and the heartache it’s caused your son, who, you believe, has suffered discrimination simply for being ill.

Passive aggressive “open” messages about you or any individual on a group chat is unacceptable and unprofessional. Wanting payments to go into his wife’s personal accounts is potentially fraudulent; there should be a club account. These and this man’s treatment of your ill DS are what you need to list and escalate to the club and possibly the FA.

Moving clubs to a more professionally run one is absolutely the best move but in future I would be sure to pay on time and maybe try to be less emotionally invested in the politics. The minute you see unprofessional behaviour, nip it in the bud but do it politely and unemotionally.

thesungoesdownthestarscomeup · 17/05/2019 10:27

Moorfields - I've been deleted from WhatsApp groups but so bloody wish I had done this beforehand! I can still view previous content from WhatsApp group tho Grin

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UnicornBrexit · 17/05/2019 10:28

I'd love DH to 🤛🏽 him but not even that's an option any longer as now both are employed for same company and DH is senior to him; so, that would go down like a lead balloon!

You need to back right off before you cause your DH to lose his job

TBH you sound very aggressive, you seem hell bent on stoking this up further. Take a step back.

MerryMarigold · 17/05/2019 10:29

Hmm m... On the surface, and written from your p.o.v, it sounds like he's awful. But, reading between the lines, your OP title abd the way you ended your OP, I can see that it poetically takes 2 in this particular tango. Go to the new club, and please don't let your attitude cause any issues for your ds. It's not fair on him.

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