To dob these men into their work?

[Stickywhitelovepiss]

Not a pearl clutcher in general, but am in two minds on this one...

Yesterday on the (very crammed) train home there were a group of about a dozen blokes essentially effing and blinding and cunting at top volume all the way home, just generally being very vocally laddish and objectionable. Including having a great old joke at the "jumper" who had caused the problems the line that evening.

My little cousin was with me, but I still chickened out in contronting them and as per usual did the very British thing of seething impotently instead.

They were all in their company polo shirts.

Part of me really wants to contact their company and let them know about it. Part of me thinks I'm sounding like a grumpy old women before my time.

Looking to Mumsnetters to give my head a wobble either way on this!

That’s what’s wrong with society the these days too many people doing whatever they want without giving a hoot about the impact on others. and yet, people on here think that their right to be offended trumps the right of others to have a laugh off the clock without getting grief at work.

@cuppycups - Wow.

Why do you feel it necessary to report people for bad driving, they may have worked a 16 hour day and are tired, and duue to your petty and spiteful actions could lose their job or placed on a disciplinary.

That is why we have police, to enforce the road rules. Not some entitled and clearly bored individual.

Genuinely, what have we become. Imagine reporting every action of indiscretion one sees on a daily basis.

I really do despair, what we have become.

Ricky Gervais: “Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right”

Yes, the same cunty comedian who said M.E was like "I'm too tired to go into work today". Utter cunt.

OK, you might not have agreed with what they were saying but they have the right to say it.

They categorically do not - out loud, in a public place. As explained upthread, you / they could be prosecuted under the public order act for this behaviour.

Our company has very strict rules about how we act when wearing branded clothes, or PARTICULARLY in this instance which could well have been part of a company event. They were stupid to get acting like that whilst representing! …

However... Would I dob them in?... NO... but i'd have the bollocks to call them up about it at the time...…

"Come on lads... Ive got a Fucking kid here!" would probably suffice! ;-)

Well I already said I wouldn’t report them to their work, donttread but I don’t agree it’s just “having a laugh” to swear and curse repeatedly on a train in the presence of other paying customers. Everyone has the right to not be subjected to anti social behaviour, which this was.

DontTreadOnMe
Even if that includes taking the piss out of a person, who died in tragic circumstances?

As explained upthread, you / they could be prosecuted under the public order act for this behaviour ah yes, the public order act, or morality policing by stealth.

I'd write a very brief, neutral toned "fyi" to their head of HR and cc the MD.

@DontTreadOnMe , is your user name from the US thing?
Just curious because most US fans of that phrase that I know would probably have challenged those blokes there and then.

Complain. It's up to the company what to do. I don't give a shit if they lose their jobs - there's always someone else to take their place.

I think we can guess from this thread just how donttread conducts him/herself on public transport

Why do you feel it necessary to report people for bad driving, they may have worked a 16 hour day and are tired, and duue to your petty and spiteful actions could lose their job or placed on a disciplinary

Let's hope that their dangerous and illegal driving doesn't cause them to kill someone shall we, or is that petty and spiteful too?

About fifteen years back, there were some rude salesmen in my local town centre, representing a major utility company. I never reported their behaviour, because it was coming up to Christmas, and maybe they're stressed, I told myself. I don't want them to lose their jobs, I thought. Found out later that they'd made other shoppers uncomfortable, to the point they were avoiding that section of the shopping centre.

I still didn't report, so yay for my compassion, I suppose. But I have never used that energy company since.

I assume that you have never had a driving indiscretion? Or accidentally changed lanes in front of someone?

The difference being your livelihood is not in jeopardy because of some busy body.

and yet, people on here think that their right to be offended trumps the right of others to have a laugh off the clock without getting grief at work.

Or someone’s right to have a laugh trumps my right to not want to hear the word cunt on public transport.

As a parent, trains are a particular problem for this.

I was thinking about where the dc might be exposed to offensive swearing. In almost every other situation, I can choose to avoid taking them into a place where this is likely to happen - rowdy pub etc. In public parks heavily used by children (certainly our local one) parents would intervene immediately. Public transport - particularly trains, as you're confined there for a period of time, usually without staff within earshot - is the only place I could think of, that I would commonly enter with reasonable expectations but could suffer being trapped with loud swearing.

Get a grip. I don’t get this attitude on here, ‘I don’t like what someone said, so I’ll tell -teacher- a random authority figure.’ Some of you haven’t grown up from school.

And isn’t it sad you we put higher standards on children than adults?

people on here think that their right to be offended trumps the right of others to have a laugh off the clock without getting grief at work.
Being considerate of other people should be standard for how you go about your daily life. Shouting words some people may find crass and rude, in front of children, isn’t needed to “have a laugh” for most people. They could have still “had a laugh” with the volume turned down and not bothering half the train. But then you use the word banter so I doubt any of this will get through.

If I was in OPs situation I wouldn’t email the company, unless, as another PP pointed out, they worked for a company that directly contravened what they were saying (I.e laughing and joking about suicide, while sporting nhs uniform etc) I too would have just done the very British thing of rolling my eyes and tutting, maybe saying “can you keep it down there’s kids here” if I was feeling particularly brave. Most of these “I’m alright Jack” type folk wouldn’t listen anyway.

*Why do you feel it necessary to report people for bad driving, they may have worked a 16 hour day and are tired, and duue to your petty and spiteful actions could lose their job or placed on a disciplinary.

That is why we have police, to enforce the road rules. Not some entitled and clearly bored individual. *

So they should be allowed to put other people's lives at risk driving dangerously because they are tired. If your that tired that it affects your driving you shouldn't be driving end of. It can be as dangerous as drink driving. What would they say to a family of a child killed by someone driving tired...not my fault I worked a 16 hour shift so tough?

Should we also not report someone who was drink driving and leave it to the police to enforce?

Officious whinyarses are a bigger problem than a few yobs using naughty words. The trouble with the increasing acceptance of whining, grassing and meddling is that it makes it a lot easier for people with malicious motives to cause havoc. If a company or organisation feels obliged to act on any report by some moaning cunt who rings up demanding someone get sacked, then anyone with even an imaginary grudge will have an easy way to ruin the life of the person who got off with the bloke they fancied/looked at them funny back in primary school or whatever.

Not perfect @fromdownwest but I've never driven so dangerously I risked someone's life because I thought I had missed a turning and decided to nearly force some off the road. If I had been driving we would have been injured but my husband has amazing reactions.

It does make me livid that people can just behave as obnoxiously as they like these days without care or consequence.

I dont see what the consequence of swearing is?

I would report them.
And if they were my staff they'd get a bollocking.
But you won't know the outcome of course but nothing to lose.

I had a similar incident a few weeks ago (minus the jumper) DD 4 and I on a packed commuter train and group of men swearing. It didn't occur to me to report them to their employer. I just ignored them and distracted DD. If I was a regular on that train and I regularly saw these men behaving in this way then I would probably record them and then speak to the British Transport Police and hopefully they'll deal with them.

But at least it wasn't the quiet coach eh? Though, had it been, they'd have been shut down in an instant by fellow passengers.