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To dob these men into their work?

322 replies

Stickywhitelovepiss · 16/05/2019 11:32

Not a pearl clutcher in general, but am in two minds on this one...

Yesterday on the (very crammed) train home there were a group of about a dozen blokes essentially effing and blinding and cunting at top volume all the way home, just generally being very vocally laddish and objectionable. Including having a great old joke at the "jumper" who had caused the problems the line that evening.

My little cousin was with me, but I still chickened out in contronting them and as per usual did the very British thing of seething impotently instead.

They were all in their company polo shirts.

Part of me really wants to contact their company and let them know about it. Part of me thinks I'm sounding like a grumpy old women before my time.

Looking to Mumsnetters to give my head a wobble either way on this!

OP posts:
SchadenfreudePersonified · 16/05/2019 13:54

At one time swearing in public was an arrest able offence! I would report them.

Very bad language shouldn't be used publicly like this particularly where there are young children or very elderly people - it is offensive and unnecessary.

And making fun of someone who was so mentally tortured that they took their own life is even worse - horrible behaviour.

ReanimatedSGB · 16/05/2019 13:54

I wonder how much this spiteful self-righteousness is fostered by those awful government initiatives encouraging people to grass up their neighbours for benefit 'fraud' or for looking a bit foreign... If you start feeling entitled to go bleating to 'authority' every time you imagine yourself slighted, or take an irrational dislike to someone, or just can't accept that other people's business has mostly got fuck all to do with you, then you are the problem, not the solution.

fromdownwest · 16/05/2019 13:54

here here SGB - A one sided view on a situation could cost people jobs, take companies down.

IAmTheChosenOne · 16/05/2019 13:55

@FreddieFox Or someone’s right to have a laugh trumps my right to not want to hear the word cunt on public transport.

I get bored reading it - but its my choice to be on this forum.

I cant get het up over abit of sweary banter, perhaps some of you should take yourself off to A&E and see what the clerks put up with for 12 hour shifts solidly, and believe me the odd 'cunt' isnt much.

Ivory towers.

PinguDance · 16/05/2019 13:56

I would - it’s not really a ‘right or wrong’ situation, it’s what you want to do about it. In turn, the company can respond as they see fit.

IAmTheChosenOne · 16/05/2019 13:57

At one time swearing in public was an arrest able offence! I would report them.

Yes, lets rewind to the 1800's. We could section women with PND whilst we are at it.

ittakes2 · 16/05/2019 13:58

If I was you I would think of what I would do next time something like this happened - like maybe say "excuse me gentleman but would you mind keeping the language clean as there are children in this carriage'. The moment has passed, let it go and be ready next time to step up.

dreichuplands · 16/05/2019 13:58

I would report them if they were both so intimidating that you weren't able to ask them to moderate their language and laughing about someone who had taken their own life.
You linked their behavior with their company and others will as well.
We wouldn't expect school children to behave like this so I don't think grown men should get a pass to either.

Belenus · 16/05/2019 14:04

Maybe learn to drive if you're so easily offended.

There's nothing to suggest the OP can't drive.

I would be inclined to inform the company that due to the behaviour of their staff in public whilst wearing uniform you won't be using their services. I agree with PP though - you may just find one of them was the CEO. It's not about getting anyone in trouble, it's just pointing out that acting that way in public has consequences.

I've given both positive and negative feedback when people are in uniform. It does influence how you feel about a company.

Freddiefox · 16/05/2019 14:04

*I cant get het up over abit of sweary banter, perhaps some of you should take yourself off to A&E and see what the clerks put up with for 12 hour shifts solidly, and believe me the odd 'cunt' isnt much.

Ivory towers./plastic spoon which ever.

If your happy to hear the word cunt on a train that your choice, swear word don’t particularly bother me, my point was that have a right to say it but equally there are consequences to people’s behaviour and if op is offended by the word cunt then she can report them. Just because it’s banter, a bit of fun and a laugh doesn’t negate op’s dislike of it and her choice to report them.

My other point was that we would be less accepting of this behaviour if they were women in a caring role.

What do you get het up over?

Savoury99 · 16/05/2019 14:06

Why do you feel it necessary to report people for bad driving, they may have worked a 16 hour day and are tired, and duue to your petty and spiteful actions could lose their job or placed on a disciplinary

Bad driving can lead to someone losing their life and the bad driving I reported wasn't due to them being tired, they were just unsafe and overtaking whilst putting the rest of us on the road at risk.

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/05/2019 14:07

Iamthechosenone
Even if you would be ok with the swearing and banter, would you still ok for them to take the piss out of a person, who took their own life? You also glossed over that bit.

MaxNormal · 16/05/2019 14:14

I would report.
Sadly far too many people, as evidenced by this thread, tolerate very low standards of behaviour.
I swear like a trooper but there's a time and a place.
I know exactly what the OP means. It's a very male, public form of aggression. It's meant to intimidate and it's toxic. It creates an environment where women and children are made to feel uncomfortable and potentially unsafe.
We should all be striving for a pleasant, courteous and inclusive society.

bellinisurge · 16/05/2019 14:16

"Yes, lets rewind to the 1800's. We could section women with PND whilst we are at it."

Don't be ridiculous

Stickywhitelovepiss · 16/05/2019 14:17

I can drive - but like most Londoners need to commute in and out by train. Like most commuters I've seen my fair share of bad behaviour on public transport - but this went way beyond just "bants" and the occasional swear.

I've never morality policed in my life - if I did make their employer aware it would be a first for me!

Either way, I won't now. My rage has since subsided.

OP posts:
floribunda18 · 16/05/2019 14:17

It's potentially a public order offence if their words and actions caused harassment, alarm or distress.

Hearthside · 16/05/2019 14:17

I would have called them out at the time especially about the suicide. I have done in the past but then i am very confident and don't get easily intimidated. Yes i think i would probably ring their employers .Not for the swearing that is bad enough. But for the jokes about the person who committed suicide that would have riled me .Someone's family recieved that soul destroying news and they found it funny .I had a close relative commit suicide he was the same age as me when we were in our teens. I would have been extremely angry if someone had found it funny.

kaytee87 · 16/05/2019 14:18

They should be reported to the rail staff or the transport police if required at the time. Reporting to their work without any evidence and when they weren't at work will do nothing.

bellinisurge · 16/05/2019 14:20

It doesn't need evidence or retribution or shit like that. The company can send a reminder around to their employees to conduct themselves neutrally when in clothes that identify who they work for.
It's not hard. We even expect it of school children.

Runmybathforme · 16/05/2019 14:23

I would report them, and if I was their employer, I’d definitely want to know. Why do we have to tolerate such bad behaviour ? I’m not a head wobbler at all, but I can’t stand this attitude of “ I’ll behave anyway I want and sod everybody else “.

Turpy · 16/05/2019 14:28

I usually say something at the time with groups like this. So far, I've always had a good response but maybe I've just been lucky. I say something along the lines of 'Excuse me, you wouldn't mind watching your language with the kids around please'. Said in a friendly way as though I'm asking them a favour rather than telling them off. Iyswim

I usually get an apology and they make an effort to control their language ....

LilQueenie · 16/05/2019 14:28

Including having a great old joke at the "jumper" who had caused the problems the line that evening

For this I would report the behaviour but not the rest of it.

FrancisCrawford · 16/05/2019 14:35

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Dumdedumdedum · 16/05/2019 14:36

A lot of people on the thread seem to be missing the point that these people were wearing company identifying uniform and as such, their behaviour could be considered to be bringing their company into disrepute, which is why the OP would consider reporting it to the company. (I would report them, for what it's worth, OP. You might not be the only person whose business the company could potentially lose because of this loutish behaviour.)

Contraceptionismyfriend · 16/05/2019 14:36

I know in the places I work a complaint like that would more than likely be forwarded to the staff to be mocked.

But then again the usual greeting when seeing another member of staff is "Oi twat,cunt, insert personal insult here.

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