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To dob these men into their work?

322 replies

Stickywhitelovepiss · 16/05/2019 11:32

Not a pearl clutcher in general, but am in two minds on this one...

Yesterday on the (very crammed) train home there were a group of about a dozen blokes essentially effing and blinding and cunting at top volume all the way home, just generally being very vocally laddish and objectionable. Including having a great old joke at the "jumper" who had caused the problems the line that evening.

My little cousin was with me, but I still chickened out in contronting them and as per usual did the very British thing of seething impotently instead.

They were all in their company polo shirts.

Part of me really wants to contact their company and let them know about it. Part of me thinks I'm sounding like a grumpy old women before my time.

Looking to Mumsnetters to give my head a wobble either way on this!

OP posts:
Ticketybootoo · 18/05/2019 08:05

Wasn’t it mental health week this week ? I would imagine their company would be mortified as the way they have been represented and possibly interested to know who it was.
In practice I guess difficult to prove who it actually was enough for them to address it .

Jacesmum1977 · 18/05/2019 09:00

**You are a pearl clutcher for sure

Seriously 🙄

Jacesmum1977 · 18/05/2019 09:03

I'm a senior manager and director of a large company, and to be frank, I couldn't give a shiny shite what my employees get up to outside work. The way I see it is if they're not getting paid, I have no right to dictate what they can and cannot do.

But it doesn't matter what you think CloudyForest because in today's climate you might be swept away on a Friday and replaced by someone who does give a shiney shite on a Monday.

And these men were in company uniform. People should not do stupid things in corporate clothing or should take the consequences.

Limitedperiodonly - well said Grin

ralfeesmum · 18/05/2019 10:52

Nah, just leave it Stickywhite - on a very crowded train you can bet their boorishness got filmed by at least half a dozen iPhones and the clips are now bobbing around on YouTube for all to see.

Including their colleagues and boss. And the rest of the world. Sorted!

bubblegumunicorn · 18/05/2019 12:32

This is a good cautionary tale before reporting someone for “breaking the rules” best to live and let live unless it’s really bad like sexual harassment or racial discrimination. Swearing probably won’t do much to these people! www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/tasneemnashrulla/dc-metro-worker-eating-train-viral-tweet-author

madcatladyforever · 18/05/2019 12:36

I prefer to take the, "Not my circus, not my monkeys", approach. Otherwise I'd be perpetually complaining.
Life has taught me not to fight any battles that are not absolutely necessary.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/05/2019 12:53

Bubblegum, if you read the whole article you linked you come to,

'the Metro worker wishes that Tynes had used “common courtesy” and followed protocol in reporting her actions to the WMATA instead of “deciding to blast an employee in public.”'

Tynes tweeted an identifiable photo of the employee thus causing her to be harassed on social media (before it turned round and she got twitter shamed herself) which is not what the op is proposing doing.

retirementrocks · 18/05/2019 12:55

Since these men can be identified, I'd drop the company a line to say that the behaviour of their employees was unacceptable and offensive. It wasn't ok for your little cousin to hear such language and tbh, ignoring such behaviour is like condoning it. The older I get the less tolerance I have of poor standards of behaviour, and as an employer until recently, I'd be really cross if my staff behaved badly...it does reflect on the company.

hellodarkness · 18/05/2019 13:12

"I prefer to take the, "Not my circus, not my monkeys", approach."

That's why the world is such a shit tip, full of people looking out for themselves because anything else 'isn't my business.'

VaggieMight · 18/05/2019 13:17

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hellodarkness · 18/05/2019 18:37

"You could have said something to them."

Not everyone's brave enough to confront a group of foulmouthed offensive intimidating buffoons, especially if they've got a kid with them.

"You could have reported them to the conductor."

Not as easy as it sounds on a packed train.

"Reporting them to their employer is a gutless response. "

Possibly the only response available in the circumstances.

bellinisurge · 18/05/2019 19:18

@VaggieMight , I don't know who @Stickywhitelovepiss is or who they work for. That's the difference.

Praguemum · 19/05/2019 02:38

You have every right to report them for bringing their company into disrepute. I would. No different from reporting someone who drives badly with the company name all over the vehicle.

Belenus · 19/05/2019 09:26

Would you like your employer to know your username is stickywhitelovepiss?

If the OP were on a train wearing company uniform and shouting "My name is StickyWhiteLovePiss" her employer might want to know about it. Since she's posting anonymously on an internet forum, unless she gives away enough that she's identifiable as an employee of a particular organisation and turns out to be in breach of their internet usage policy I shouldn't think the employer would care.

Savoury99 · 19/05/2019 09:50

I'm a senior manager and director of a large company, and to be frank, I couldn't give a shiny shite what my employees get up to outside work. The way I see it is if they're not getting paid, I have no right to dictate what they can and cannot do.

Really? Even if they are wearing something for the company name on!

Are you scared to disapline your staff?

Savoury99 · 19/05/2019 09:52

With not for

Dana28 · 19/05/2019 11:18

I think disciplining staff based on hearsay, and without knowing for sure who was involved would be asking for trouble

NicoAndTheNiners · 19/05/2019 11:26

Nobody would get sacked for this as no evidence. But they might get an unofficial bollocking and told not to do it again.

If I owned a business and my identifiable employees did this I would be furious and I would tell them so! And for those people saying that people can swear, etc in public I didn't think you could. If it's at such a level that it's causing distress they could be charged with public order offences? Maybe next time ring the transport police and they might be met at the next station?

There was a similar story in the papers years ago about some off duty police officers on a train behaving in such a manner. Obviously not in uniform but a fellow passenger recognised them. They all got sacked.

limitedperiodonly · 19/05/2019 15:42

I agree Nico. It wouldn't be hard to work out who these people were. All it really needs is an email asking everyone to watch themselves while wearing company logos. I don't think this is too much to ask.

Dumdedumdedum · 20/05/2019 18:17

With these attitudes, no wonder Brexit Britain is in such shit shape. Unemployment beckons, but that’s OK because blue passports and some fish. Self-destructive idiots.

MummyParanoia101 · 20/05/2019 18:44

@kaytee87 They're representing their company whilst wearing the uniform. Disgusting behaviour

Rosemary7391 · 20/05/2019 20:10

I wouldn't want to be the person needing them to move so I could get off the train, or letting them know they were in my reserved seat, or any other totally normal interaction on public transport. It might be fine, but given their behaviour it is much more likely to go badly. And you're stuck in a train with them for who knows how long... vast vast difference between confined public spaces and your own home.

Whoever said OP should get out of other peoples' private conversations? I'm sure OP would've been delighted to do so, but given getting off the train wasn't an option, I'm not sure how you expect that to happen... Conversations on trains are not private. Shouted ones even less so!

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