Jeremy Kyle axed permanently

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Hallelujah! Good riddance to bad rubbish!!

Whilst I don’t like the JK show or most reality shows like Love Island etc , and do t watch them, shall we just remember that those who appeared are adults, and would be well aware of the format of the shows and how it was likely to go and still agreed to appear and have their lives and problems aired for everyone to see and comment on and get their two minutes of fame. They were not forced to appear, they could have said no, and if enough of them did the shows would have ended years ago

Don’t forget much hurrahing when the News of the World ceased then to be replaced with the Sun on Sunday

Something else will simply slide into its place

Excellent news. I've been horrified at some of the clips I've seen and heard recently: it seems to be nothing more than licensed bullying done for entertainment.

Now all the other crap needs to go Love island, BGT, X Factor, I'm a celebrity, ffs the list is endless

Exactly. I remember years ago reading an article about the selection process of the X Factor - people who cannot sing, and in some cases had learning difficulties, were being put through the initial 'behind the scenes' selection process (and being lead to believe they had real talent) just so they could be shown on tv performing in front of the judges and an audience, to be told they were terrible. All for our entertainment.

The whole culture of 'tv celebrity' needs to be seen for what it is. I really believe one day we will look back and find it as horrifying as some of the 1970's tv is to watch now.

@Chloemol they might have been adults but they were easy to manipulate due to a plethora of social reasons. Certainly a lot of guests had LD. That much was obvious.

I agree with you regarding Love Island. Those people aren’t picked to be ridiculed and mocked. They’re picked because they’re beautiful and will sell water bottles and primark pajama sets.

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There might be more of an argument for that with Love Island, but so many of the Jeremy Kyle guests are vulnerable, disadvantaged and with no disrespect to them, not always the best educated. I am a lawyer and when working in care proceedings one of my clients was on the show. This was a woman who didn’t understand that when you make a baby’s bottle you have to let it cool down or the baby will burn their mouth. Of course she isn’t going to appreciate the longer term consequences of going on the show. I’m not saying this applies to every guest but the show clearly uses a certain demographic to find its participants.

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Good. It should have been investigated after what happened in 2009 when a woman was beaten up after lie detector results.

This. ^

And there have been loads more incidents.

What with BB going too (last year,) I wonder if this is end of this trashy reality TV? Even X factor and BGT takes the piss out people, and laughs at and mocks the 'bad' acts.)

BGT has actually been quite shit this year, with a mix of crap acts, and people who are quite clearly professionals (who already have agents and equity cards, and who have been on the West End etc...)

X factor has been shit for about 4 or 5 years, and again, has mostly professionals who are already in the industry in it. Yes, a number of acts have been very successful off the back of BGT and X Factor, but that was a few years back, and it doesn't happen so much now. Both shows have had their day IMO.

As for Love Island, as I said, I don't think you can compare it to Jeremy Kyle, as the Kyle show is awful, toxic, and nasty, and Kyle himself is a goady troll. But yeah, I think 2 suicides after Love Island should not be ignored, and it seems the aftercare is very poor.

Would not bother me if X factor, BGT, and Love Island were axed after this year. They, along with BB and the Kyle Show, have all had their day really, for various reasons....

And I am more than happy Kyle has gone, as I get soooo fucked off with DH putting it on EVERY DAY. He also watched BB constantly every damn night for 3 months in the summer. So I was glad to see the back of that too. It used to be OK-ish (IMO) but went shit when it moved to Channel 5.

Excellent news!! It was just awful to see how he exploited people. Its was a.mockery of the most vulnerable people.

Never watched JK but is it just working class people who are unable to make their own decisions as consenting adults about appearing on the show. Or should we have stopped Martin Bashir interviewing Princess Diana when she was "vulnerable"?

I don't watch reality tv so don't give two hoots either way, but there's something a bit worrying about the middle classes saying "we shouldn't allow these poor thick people to make fools of themselves". Which is essentially what this appears to be.

They should get rid of all the reality shows that exploit people such as love island, big brother, etc. I don't watch any reality tv and never have; I just don't see the attraction.

According to Jeremy Bine yesterday the J.K show asked for a letter from the mans GP saying he was fit to appear (after suffering a bout of depression). The GP gave the go ahead.

I suspect that busy GPs have little or no idea what going on one of these shows involves - I would hope that s/he would not have said it was OK if they had realised it involved the guy appearing on national TV with strangers baying at him about being a worthless piece of scum and the host shouting in his face. If this is is true, the GP really had no business supplying the letter, but I suspect the producers rely on the fact that a busy GP being told by a patient that he wants to go on a TV show but needs something signed first will probably sign so as to move on to the next patient.

I really, really hope that the likes of Sky and Amazon won't contemplate signing Kyle up for something similar on their channels.

TV version of things like bear baiting and cock fighting;)..

It's not 'working class' making people vulnerable, it's the many guests with clear MH problems, addictions, learning disabilities, backgrounds of abuse etc.

Life yy I agree. There are lots of exploitative programmes not just on ITV eg benefits programmes; some of the landlord/tenant house-swap programmes, etc.
There is more than a hint of classism in an approach that says stop making a programme that is aimed at the working class but let's ignore the programmes made about the working class when the latter are just as exploitative; and let's also ignore the middle class, high gloss 'reality' programmes that equally prey on the vulnerable.

@mabelsgarden, how has your DH taken the news that he will have to do without his daily Kyle fix?

@Geminijes totally agree

I actually think if the Kyle show has gone love island should go too. Personally I think it's a bit harsh, used to enjoy my fix of big Steve but won't miss the screaming

I think the fact that ITV made the decision to cancel it so quickly and didn't even kick it into the long grass with 'suspended until further notice' or just 'taking a break for now' shows that they knew all along that they were on borrowed time.

I imagine the ITV execs probably wondered for years how they were getting away with showing such nasty, dangerous dross (yet with lucrative advertising revenues) and were just biding their time and riding their luck until something like this happened. Not suggesting they were expecting a death, but something very serious was always on the cards.

Not sorry JK has gone - never watched a full show but saw snippets now and again and it was very shouty and unpleasant. Never watched Love Island so cant comment on that. Reality tv in general these days is crap I think - when it was a 'new thing' people didnt really know what they were getting in to - now they all have agents and play to the cameras.

About time too, the whole thing was reminiscent of Victorian freak shows or a a Roman circus. It is completely unacceptable to make so much money from the suffering of others.

'Underclass baiting' is how a poster described the programme on another site some years ago. Beautifully put.

I too hope it's the end of the line for Jeremy Kyle et al but it's possible another production company or broadcaster could buy the rights. Not likely, though.

I’m amazed this was the first suicide to be honest as the programme has been vile for years. If the gp gave the go-ahead there will be questions to answer to. Anyone with a history of depression shouldn’t be going on a programme like Jeremy Kyle (or probably any reality tv). Doesn’t excuse the programme makers though. They have a history of taking vulnerable people, shit stiring and then watching things implode for entertainment.

I also agree about the benefits/poor-bashing programmes. I've seen bits of that awful 'Can't Pay, We'll Take It Away', and the premise is just horrible. The fact that they use the word 'can't' rather than 'won't' instantly shows their true intentions.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who are well able to pay debts/fines/bills etc but would just prefer not to and spend the money on luxuries instead. Even pursuing most people like this seems very off, unless they're really lording it up and maybe other people are suffering because of their arrogance.

However, where poor people have got into a downward spiral, whether through unwise choices, unavoidable circumstances or a combination of both, is this really the most ethical way to help them to find a way to meet their obligations and to improve their situations?

All these awful shows that exploit people's weakness and desperation need to go. It's the 21st century equivalent of public hangings and gladiators fighting to the death .

I think people will look back on shows like Jeremy Kyle the way we look back on freak shows, or people going into asylums to look at the mentally ill.

Re Love Island, 3 suicides in the space of 4 years surely means something is wrong there? Yes the people on there are probably fairly narcissistic so are probably more likely to suffer when the attention disappears, but there are loads of 20 somethings preening and pouting on Instagram. If out of the tiny amount of them that go on LI, 3 have killed themselves, surely the programme is past of the problem?

I've never seen Love Island, so can't really comment on it, but what a lot of people seem to be glossing over is that fact that, whilst LI is at least on in the evenings, JK was shown in the morning.

As if all that vexatious-to-the-soul poison wasn't bad enough for the adults who chose to watch it, there would have been hundreds of thousands of young children who would have witnessed it as well - preschoolers and older children in the school holidays.

Prepared to be told I'm being precious here, but if I as a relatively stable middle-aged person found myself genuinely feeling dirty when catching even a clip of this, I think that people having this on in the background every day with tiny children present - so simple to find it with just a flick of the switch on the remote and sandwiched by other (much less) objectionable daytime programmes - would have been tantamount to child abuse.

Even if they were too young to understand what any of the words (and bleeps) meant, the sheer tension and aggression in the air is 100% not conducive to a happy, secure early childhood. Tiny children wouldn't easily differentiate between their parents and family speaking to them and abuse being hurled between strangers on the telly.