To wish Nigel Farage would fuck off to the far side of fuck

[Stripyseagulls]

He’s not a man of the people- he’s one of the elite. He’s a wealthy ex broker who wants to privatise the NHS. He has earnt a massive salary as an MEP but barely turned up. He’s a con artist who is actually pretty racist and unsavoury.

Am tired of seeing him on TV - he cares nothing for the poor of this country. I wish he would go away never to be seen again.

Aibu?

I just wish Pinocchio was standing at least then we would know for sure when we were being told lies

To clarify things for those crying ageism, @HazelBite said it was "a myth" that the majority of older people voted Leave.

Let's at least stick to the facts. It is not a myth.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted

And, Peter Keller's YouGov research pointed out that even if no-one changed their minds from the referendum vote, 1350 fewer people per day support Brexit (due to older Leavers dying and younger Remainers turning 18), and that this lead to a majority remain balance by the end of March this year. So by now it would be even further towards Remain, and that's notwithstanding those who HAVE changed their minds from Leave to Remain...

You're being told lies when Brexit supporters are parroting their lines that have been fed to them via Nige and his mates.So many untruths that it's not possible to quantify. Look at the person. Would you trust them under any other circumstances? If not, dont trust them with your vote.

Instead of just calling him names perhaps it would be more constructive to work out why he appeals to so many people (and no, its not because they are all racist) and work on addressing those issues.

All this name calling is just continuing what got us into this mess in the first place.

Sniff sniff sniff........hmmmm the stench of condescension and arrogance off this thread.
Left wingers just don't learn, with this high and mighty hysterical chest beating against NF , you are driving more voters to his side.
People can be pro brexit and actually be smart, intelligent, hard working, invested in the future and still be many years away from the pension but your blinding arrogance won't let you see that.

Coolegary1 Perhaps you could point me to where I can find the Brexit Party manifesto? Or how I could become a member?

Because smart and intelligent people will always check out exactly what they’re voting for first, right?

Oh no, please don’t talk about leave voters dying, I got a post deleted for saying that a few weeks ago. Apparently it upsets people ...

To clarify things for those crying ageism, @HazelBite said it was "a myth" that the majority of older people voted Leave.

Let's at least stick to the facts. It is not a myth.

Fact - Sample Size: 5455 UK Adults

Based on asking 5455 people in 2016 about their age and how they voted, Yougov extrapolated this to suggest that you were MORE LIKELY to have voted leave if older. That's all. That isn't the same as proof that a majority of Leave voters were older.

Here’s the proof.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted

Here’s the proof.

No. That's just a link to a Yougov poll with a sample size of 5455 people who were asked their ages and how they voted. That is a poll from a tiny sample size that has been extrapolated to interpret the voting habits of 17+ million people.

That's interesting. It may even be correct (and it it may not), but one thing it 100% is not is proof - and not even Yougov would claim it is.

Thunderwing - Talking of obnoxious, condescending, arrogant and sneeringly dismissive... did you happen to listen to Emma Barnett's responses to various messages she read out on her 5 live show yesterday morning that were supporting Farages comments re. BBC bias.

YADNBU x100

He’s truly an odious little man

YADNBU. He is vile. At one of his rallies yesterday in / near Pontefract he was actively whipping up his audience to anger against Yvette Cooper, saying that noone had done as much to block brexit, joking that he & his entourage had parked their tanks on her lawn.

All this when he is well aware of the kind of abuse MPs, especially female ones, are facing at the moment. And in a Yorkshire constituency not a million miles from where Jo Cox was murdered, where Yvette Cooper is already facing abuse and threats.

Yvette Cooper has indeed tried to block a no deal brexit, which is completely compatible with the Labour manifesto of 2017 and its avowal to oppose leaving without a deal. More to the point, it's her first duty as an MP to do what she believes is in the best interests of the country and then her constituents.

Yet Farage, who supposedly wants UK 'sovereignty' and to 'take back control' from the EU, & whose whole narrative ATM is about the betrayal of UK democracy, doesn't seem to understand or value actual Parliamentary democracy at all. Instead he chooses to foster the misconception that MPs are delegates for their constituents when he's in Leave voting areas & trying to gain Labour votes, but soon drops that pretence when he's cosying up to Jacob Rees Mogg, say, whose constituency voted to remain.

He's a vile misogynistic twat anyway, utterly patronising in his attitude to any woman who challenges him.

HazelBite said it was "a myth" that the majority of older people voted Leave.

christ, are brexiteers still denying this? why?

Why on earth does me thinking farage is a twat mean that i am left wing?

I dont get it

Im not overly keen on corbyn...does that make me right wing again

Jesus...if only there was an easier way to work this out

I don't particularly like Nigel Farage but I will be voting for his party. It looks like the BP may do quite well.

I think a lot of people have no time for politicians now, there is so much mistrust and anger regardless of which side you support.

People voting for the brexit party shows an incredible amount of optimism

Or maybe pessimism

Gosh it's confusing

My point being people voting for the brexit party must be absolutely convinced we are definitely leaving...im assuming the hope is that they wont actually take their seats

@NoYo, why would someone with no time for politicians vote for one?

I don't particularly like Nigel Farage but I will be voting for his party. It looks like the BP may do quite well.

I don't get this. They have no manifesto (or contract with the public as NF himself described it, if you prefer). They stand for nothing.

If Brexit does go ahead, they will all be out of a job soon. However in the meantime they will claim their MEP wages and expenses and piss about in Brussels insulting other people who are actually trying to do good things for the countries they represent.

If Brexit does not goes ahead, they will claim their MEP wages and expenses and piss about in Brussels saying they don't want to be there because democracy has been "betrayed", all the while insulting other people who are actually trying to do good things for the countries they represent.

What. Is. The. Point.

There was a vox pop of audience members at a Brexit Party rally in Yorkshire today - on R4 WatO. It beggared belief. One woman, and I paraphrase, said she was annoyed that leave voters were painted as if they didn’t know what they were voting for. She knew. She wanted out of the customs union so we could do trade deals with the rest of the world, because only 15% of our trade is currently with th EU . When the reporter pointed out that this was incorrect and the figure is approx. 45%, her (again, paraphrased) response was ‘oh, well’. Not ‘shit, I wonder who has been feeding me these lines, I’d better go and do some proper research in case they’ve told me some other porkies.

Another member of the crowd said he thought the Brexit party had something really different to offer ‘I like the way they won’t be drawn on the other national issues’ . Not, ‘the Brexit party seem to have no manifesto, why on earth would I vote for them?’ Approx 31 to 33 minutes in on WatO if anyone wants to have a listen..............

Yes, Thunderwing - they will be a total embarrassment, and make the UK look the total tantrumming child it is rapidly becoming.

The only saving grace I can see at the moment is that there is likely to be a second independence referendum in Scotland (that is of course if Westminster allows us to have one - don't get me started on the irony of "not being allowed" to leave a club you don't want to be in )

I voted against independence in 2014 and never dreamed I would advocate leaving the UK. Seeing what is happening now to the country that I love is making me feel much braver about the prospect of going alone. We certainly can't do worse.

Anyone who suggests taking away the vote from people who disagree with them politically (or are statistically likely to do so, or however else they want to justify it) is a hundred times worse than Farage.

HazelBite said it was "a myth" that the majority of older people voted Leave.

christ, are brexiteers still denying this? why?

Dunno about that but it's not a proven fact. The "proof" posted so far is a survey with a sample size of 5455. That isn't a fact.

My dad is in his 80s and voted leave. He now saus he didnt really understand what he was voting for.. ...but would vote leave again because people his age wont be affected. Charming!! Cheers dad.

And as for voting for brexit as a "protest vote" ....DON'T!!!! Crap on your ballot paper if you want to make a protest but dont vote for something you dont want. Apparently there were peope who voted leave in 2016 just to piss off their neighbours.....🙄