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.. to be disappointed that a racist received a standing ovation!

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NannaNoodleman · 13/05/2019 08:55

Danny Baker: Standing ovation at first show since Twitter storm www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-48249637

What is wrong with people. He showed his true inherent racism but people still believe he's a top bloke!

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manicinsomniac · 13/05/2019 10:01

Was the show where he got the standing ovation racist?

If not, then maybe the people who stood for him didn't know about the tweet. A lot of people don't have twitter or listen to the radio/watch live tv so they were probably just responding to the show they saw without knowing any context.

ittakes2 · 13/05/2019 10:01

Meghan Markle has had her nose reshaped and she straightens her afro hair - the world is a happy blend of different races mixed together (myself included). You would have to have your head in the sand to miss the black debate around her - but if no-one had told me I would not have even ocurred to me to think of her heritage. I just looked at her and thought she has nice olive skin.

EssentialHummus · 13/05/2019 10:02

If he genuinely didn't think this through he should've been sacked for being too dim for his role.

OceanViewSentosa · 13/05/2019 10:03

There must be a name for this. Is it reverse political correctness or something. Its like being gaslighted.

You post a racist post, then deny it and then tell everyone who thinks it is racist that they are the real racist because they see it that way.

What utter mind bending nonsense is this?

Someone mixed race has a baby, then some minor sleb posts a picture of a monkey between its parents. Then he gets a standing ovation. Talk about race relations being put back 30 years.

itscallednickingbentcoppers · 13/05/2019 10:04

'The first I knew Meghan was black was after this Danny Baker episode.'

What's your point? Are you inferring that Danny Baker, a BBC journalist wouldn't have known that Meghan is mixed race?

RiversDisguise · 13/05/2019 10:06

I believe it's possible.

ComicSans · 13/05/2019 10:06

Why would someone as intelligent and experienced as Danny Baker and DH listens to a lot of 5Live, and DB is a veritable intellectual giant compared to the other presenters suddenly, after a lengthy career in broadcasting, deliberately make a public consciously racist tweet in the full knowledge that he would end his own career in doing so?

I'm not in the least surprised people thought it was violently offensive and racist, or that he was fired and I'm as baffled as anyone as to how someone who works in football broadcasting and is hence entirely aware of monkey slurs and bananas thrown at black players but I actually believe him when he says it was intended as a class jibe.

Agreed, it's difficult to see how he can't have been alive to the racial connotations of implying a mixed-race royal baby was monkey-like, the idiot, but making a consciously racist tweet would have been career suicide. For me, reading it as consciously or intentionally racist makes no sense.

However, the intention isn't the key issue with racism. I've been subjected throughout my 20 years in England to offensively stereotypical ideas about Irishness which were often well-intentioned, but that makes them no less witless and offensive.

itscallednickingbentcoppers · 13/05/2019 10:06

'A lot of people don't have twitter or listen to the radio/watch live tv'

Why would they go and see Danny Baker then if they don't listen to the radio or watch TV, how would they even know he existed let alone want to go and see him Hmm

NoSauce · 13/05/2019 10:07

I don’t believe people didn’t know Meghan is mixed race unless you’ve been living in a cave with no tv/internet for the past however many years. Her mother is black for a start, or did you not see any coverage of the royal wedding last year too? Hmm

itscallednickingbentcoppers · 13/05/2019 10:07

'I believe it's possible.'

Blimey.

WalkingDownMadison · 13/05/2019 10:09

He tweeted something stupid. He apologised. He lost his job. People who have lost all sense of proportion are still wanting him hung drawn and quartered. I think that's why he got the ovation. How about doing something real and positive in the world OP? MN with all the trivia outrage is really waring.

RiversDisguise · 13/05/2019 10:10

I for one did not see any coverage of the royal wedding, vaguely remember it for coinciding with FA Cup final. Happy internet user, rarely watch the TV news. I read part of a silly royal thread on AIBU recently and it was sheer madness to me that people know or care about these people.

Some people don't care about celeb nonsense. I'm one of them.

Whatafustercluck · 13/05/2019 10:12

NoSauce lots of people don't 'follow' the royals and have very little interest or knowledge of them. Lots of people didn't watch the wedding either. For this reason, I didn't know MM is mixed race until very recently. But I do apccept that DB is paid to know this stuff.

NoSauce · 13/05/2019 10:12

How about doing something real and positive in the world OP? MN with all the trivia outrage is really waring

Yes sure let minimise blatant racism. Good idea there Hmm

DotOnTheHorizon · 13/05/2019 10:14

@LaraLily90 - Can you explain what was funny please? I may be a humourless old bat, but. I couldn't see anything to laugh about.

I suspect you can't explain it because it wasn't funny.

NoSauce · 13/05/2019 10:17

Well even if some of you didn’t know Meghan is mixed race, Danny Baker bloody well knows and still thought it would be hilarious to post a photo of a chimp saying the royal baby leaves hospital. How anyone can think that’s funny is beyond me.

Coyoacan · 13/05/2019 10:20

I think he's just a bit stupid and didn't realize the implications
You've got to be kidding!

That was the most blatantly racist tweet he could have thought of. Maybe he's looking to become a UKIP candidate or something. There is no way he did that accidentally.

ChipSandwich · 13/05/2019 10:27

I didn't know her mother was black, I didn't watch the wedding. I thought MM looks Italian. I don't read articles on the royals either. I think it's feasible that a fair number didn't know until now.

madcatladyforever · 13/05/2019 10:28

I always follow my instincts and when I first saw this it screamed rascism. I was actually horrified. What on earth made him do something that stupid?
Surely he must have realised what the consequences would be unless he is a totally, ignorant, arrogant fool.

NoSauce · 13/05/2019 10:28

But he did know that she’s mixed race and that’s what matters here.

itscallednickingbentcoppers · 13/05/2019 10:28

'Some people don't care about celeb nonsense. I'm one of them.'

Ok, but this thread is about Danny Baker, and he spends his days in BBC studios, surrounded by journalists and presenters and breaking news. It is inconceivable that he didn't know MM was mixed race.

Pedallleur · 13/05/2019 10:33

Well that faux-pas garnered him a lot of publicity and prob sold a few mote tickets. Job done! His publicist/agent will be happy

Thymeout · 13/05/2019 10:34

The fact that Danny Baker has been in the media for 40 years doesn't mean he intended his tweet to be a racist comment. He's not your average media person. He doesn't even have a mobile phone.

Of course he's aware of racism in football - monkey chants etc. He's made his disgust v clear over the years. But when he sees a cute pic of a dressed-u chimp, all he sees is 'cute pic of dressed up chimp' because he likes chimps, he grew up with the PG Tips ads, and dressing up famous people, regardless of colour, as animals is one of his themes. And it's never occurred to him to compare a black person to a chimp. Because, as he said, 'not having a diseased mind'. His Twitter fans pointed out to him the context, and he said it was a stomach-curdling moment.

I've listened to DB since GLR days, and his account of how it came about rings true to me. As a docker's son, he's anti-toff. I've never heard any suspicion of racism. He has a history with clashing swords with the BBC, who he thinks is run by Oxbridge stuffed shirts who look down on him. He's anti-establishment and doesn't like being told what to do. They rang him up to tell him he'd been sacked and gave him a pompous lecture instead of letting him explain.

His first reaction of outrage was decidedly off, but his formal apology went some way to putting it right, imo.

Of course he had to be sacked. But the idea that he's a closet racist who'd deliberately sacrifice his career for the sake of a silly joke just doesn't make sense.

TabbyMumz · 13/05/2019 10:37

Someone showed me that picture, and I literally didn't get that it was racist. I took it that it meant they were showing him off and the whole thing is like a circus....I made no racist connection whatsoever, till someone said about it the next day. I can't understand why people are referring the colour of skin to a monkey?

ChipSandwich · 13/05/2019 10:37

I don't think he'd have had to look far for that picture. I believe he has a collection of 'chimp dressed as human' pictures, starting from the typhoo tea adverts era. I believe him that it wasn't posted as a racial slur. That would have been incredibly stupid, and he's not. I can see why the BBC had to take action though.

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