Woman letting dog on train seat

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I've just got an a (quite busy) train and a woman has got on with her spaniel sized dog and let it jump straight up on the seat. I asked her if she thought that was ok and she got a bit arsey and told me that she was going to put a blanket down for it (she hadn't) and that she'd paid for a ticket for the dog, which wasn't really what I was getting at. Was IBU? Is it is ok to have a dog on a seat on public transport?

Nice for the next person getting on that seat.
I love dogs (and cats) but I don’t like getting their hair on my clothes.

Besides that, seats are for people. Whenever my dog was travelling with me on public transport, she sat on my lap or was on the floor.

Oh I see grinchley has further expressed original views about, this time babies, that they are revolting.

Right ho.

Hygiene wouldn’t be an issue for me, as public transport seats aren’t at all clean but dog hair on my clothes would annoy me. I’m also confused as I didn’t think paying for a ticket meant you paid for a seat. Otherwise millions of commuters are being ripped off daily.

Presumably most children don’t walk around in their own faeces and urine!

Neither do most dogs!

Grinchly, do you clean your dogs' anuses and genitalia after they've urinated and defecated, in the same way as parents do when they change babies' nappies?

National Rail says:

"Small pets, like dogs and cats can travel with you on the train for free, as long as they don’t annoy other passengers, or put them in danger. You can bring a maximum of two animals per passenger, but you’ll have to keep them on a lead, or comfortable in a closed basket, cage or pet carrier that’s secure, so they can’t escape. If you’re planning on bringing more than two pets, you’ll need to check with the TOC directly.
Even if they might do it at home, your pets aren’t allowed to climb on the seats. They’re for paying passengers only.
If you’ll have to take a bus or coach to complete your journey, you’ll need to check if animals are allowed on board."

My dog would never walks in her own or any other dog's faeces and urine.

However, I would never put her on a seat in a public place because it's inconsiderate to other people.

It's a shame that a lot of users of public transport don't have the same attitude when they put their shoes up on the seat opposite or put their stinking clothes and unwashed bodies on seats that other people are going to have to use.

Dogs are paying customers - when my dog goes by train I have to pay for a ticket - I therefore fail to see why he should not get a seat (he doesn't - we stand, but when he is older and needs it I will totally ensure he gets a seat). He is also a lot cleaner than many people... Any comments about bags, feet etc are just nonsense - you dont pay for a ticket for bags or feet, you do for dogs...

I have no problem at all with animals on public transport. It's the seat thing that surprised me.

She told me she paid for the seat. I have no idea if she did or if you're supposed to. I love my dog but I wouldn't spend £25 on a train seat for her, even if I did think it was ok for someone else to then sit down where her fur and paws had been.

Or you do in Scotland at least...

Pay for a ticket I mean

Dogs are definitely dirtier than humans, who generally don't go around burying their noses in other humans' bottoms (in public, anyway). Plus the fact people have allergies to animal fur. Of course they shouldn't be on a seat and I don't believe the woman would have had a ticket. She was the stereotypical CF.

Dogs are pets, not fur babies and they do not have the same rights as humans. Really, unless assistance dogs, they shouldn't be on trains at all, or in only in a specified area (but given you don't have a guard's van anymore, the specified area is not very easy to facilitate).

Purplecats where are you that you are paying for a train ticket for your dog? Dogs travel free in the U.K.

Noooo fuck that

Love dogs. It’s the fur that it leaves behind that’s annoying. Bad enough having to de fluff from my own pets, but would be annoyed if I’d worn black trousers and sat there after the dog.
Dogs fine on floor, some people are just ignorant.

In England my dog has been on loads of trains and I’ve never had to buy him a ticket.

In Belgium, my dogs train ticket cost more than mine for the journey.

Both times he sat on the floor.

But seats are designed for humans? For our body shape.

Apart from being softer on some transport I can't see the benefit for the dog. What am I missing.

I'm ambivalent about dogs, I don't mind them but I'd rather not be covered in their hair if I was off out somewhere etc. I think their bare arse is probably on a par with dirty shoes in that the dog has most likely licked it's arse clean at some point but their feet etc will be broadly the same as germs from shoes. I wouldn't have a dog on the seat the same as I wouldn't put my feet on a seat or let a toddler stand on a seat - a non walking baby standing on a seat I wouldn't have any issue with.

www.dugswelcome.com/scotland-dogs/dogs-on-scotrail-trains/

Assuming I wasn't having to stand because of it, this wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I'm sure I've sat on lots of sofas that dogs sit on in my friends' homes.

I'm surprised at how over the top people are about perceived dirt/germs but I suppose I probably shouldn't be.

There needs to be certain carriages where this is allowed and you can expect to have an animal free carriage otherwise. With a severe allergy to pet dander I would not appreciate struggling to breathe so that Fido can have a comfy ride.

Well I have seen enough people put their feet on seats and children standing on them not to really care about a dog sitting on one.

I do think if people were standing the dog should have been on the floor or the owner's lap but I also think a child should be on the adult's lap if people are standing. I just love standing on a bus or tube while a young child has a seat

No worse than the disgusting habit some women have of changing their children on a train seat.

As long as she moves the dog if a human needs to sit, I am not bothered.

Nothing dirty on a dog that you wouldnt get on a human.

I take a blanket in case I need to put my dog on teh seat, the reasons why I have needed to put my dog on a seat are..

My dog is not keen on having his paws stepped on.
He doesn't like being kicked in the face.
He is very unhappy about people discovering him under a table and then leaping up and screaming like total twats 'OMG A DOG'..
He really doesn't appreciate having heavy bags dropped on him or slammed into his face.

I initially tried the 'smile and say 'of course but I have a dog under the table' when people ask if they can sit at my table/next to me.

After this failed, repeatedly and people did all of the above, whilst blanking me entirely, I sat him on the seat so folk could SEE there was a DOG, which stopped him getting battered, and stopped their total shock as they booted him under the table having ignored my actual words coming from my face, warning them about the dog.

The final straw was some lady standing on his tail, he yelped SHE DID NOT MOVE HER FOOT. I said 'excuse me you are standing on his tail' she looked down and CARRIED ON STANDING ON HIS TAIL.

I pushed her off him.

My dog sits on the seat or my lap when the train/bus is loading/unloading.