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To find this mum's behaviour very strange

216 replies

Galaxy88 · 06/05/2019 11:07

Yesterday, myself, dh and 2dd were out walking in the woods when we heard a really loud cry, we ran over and a boy about the age of 8, had gone over his handle bars and landed face first on the concrete. He had made a good mess of his face and was naturally hysterical.

While DH attended to his wounds (he's first aid trained) I attempted to get some info from him as he was all alone in the woods. I asked for his name, which he gave. His address and if he had a mobile with him.

He didn't have a phone, didn't know the street name or number but knew he lived in the next village- which is a 15 minute bike ride away. Based on this, we had to call an ambulance. While waiting, we started to ask where his mum was, is she close by? He replied no, and that his mum was at work all day and had left him aged 8 and his older sister aged 9 alone in the house and he'd gone out.

Eventually, a woman walked by who recognised the boy (her dd attend the same school) and was able to call the mother's place of work and let her know.

While on the phone, the mother became highly irritated and started shouting when we said we'd called an ambulance. Saying we were wrong to do that and we should cancel asap as it was a huge over reaction. I explained it wasn't, he'd banged his head, was confused and didn't know where he lived or any contact info, let alone the mess to his head, nose and teeth.

(If the mother had been around, or if the child had a phone we probably wouldn't have called one, we couldn't leave him there screaming with blood pouring and a bump to the head)

While waiting, we cold compressed his head and applied pressure. A friend of the mother turned up first picked up the bike put it her car, grabbed the boy and made a comment about him not needing an ambulance. Moments later the mum shows up, but didn't get out of the car, the boy was placed in her car by the friend and they both drove off.

I'm sat here afterwards really confused, we weren't asking for gratitude, it wasn't necessary. But she didn't even come and ask what had happened, his injuries, what we'd done so far, based on his injuries I imagine she'd require a trip to a&e and would probably need all this info to pass over.

Am I being U to think this is just poor parenting? Not only to leave two young children, but to scold the people trying to help your ds.. dh thinks we should pass on her details to SS, as the woman from before mentioned where they lived in passing after she had gone, shall we just let this go?

OP posts:
LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 06/05/2019 15:07

Not so, BigChoc.

Nobody knows whether the child was taken to A&E. Mum might have done a quick assessment, decided he needed to go and taken him. She also might not. If OP doesn't have any details of the boy then perhaps the friend of the mum can advise. Then OP can report.

It's not about disbelieving the OP either, more information came in later posts - but the first post was focused on providing enough detail to call 'poor parenting'.

It's not about 'protecting the mother', the child is the most important in this.

I don't understand why an OP would take the few responses saying 'don't report' and use that as her decision when so many are saying 'do report'. If the child was in the state that OP said he was then why is a consensus even needed? "Please save me" OP says the child said...

CurtainsOpen · 06/05/2019 15:12

None of this makes any sense

Galaxy88 · 06/05/2019 15:15

How so?

OP posts:
woodhill · 06/05/2019 15:18

You did the right thing OP.

Glad u were around to help the poor boy.

Galaxy88 · 06/05/2019 15:19

I honestly don't care what other people think or don't think. I was genuinely on the fence about reporting this or not as I've had to take the word of an upset 8 year old child.
I've read everything and the suggestions people have made and I've decided to contact the school using the information I've got and let them decide what to do next.
As far as I'm concerned, the blame is not on me regardless of the minority on here, I helped a child and that's all that matters.

Anyway, going forward, I won't be replying to any more of the rubbish said about me going forward. I'm a good person and did the best I could in a stressful situation.

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youarenotkiddingme · 06/05/2019 15:22

Cory so sorry to hear you went through that. I went through similar when o was fighting for an EHCP for my ds. I sat in the tribunal with all those (school and la) telling a judge I was making up his needs. I was the issue blah blah blah.
I sat from and was factual.

I won Smile

youarenotkiddingme · 06/05/2019 15:24

Galaxy you absolutely in no way shape or form did ANYTHING wrong.

There is possibly concerns and there's possibly not for the safety of these children.

That will or remain there regardless of what you do or don't do.

So absolutely you should report to the right authority who will investigate and conclude on facts. Best to be concerned unnecessarily than big be concerned when you should be.

Redglitter · 06/05/2019 15:31

You absolutely did the right thing in calling an ambulance for him. You definitely need to report this though. An 8 & 9 year old shouldn't be left alone all day. He might not be so lucky next time

HJWT · 06/05/2019 15:32

I would of rang the police, the police would of located his mum who would of been at work so they would of sent a report to SS!

HJWT · 06/05/2019 15:33

@Galaxy88 you did the right thing op, ignore the planks they probably all leave there underage kids home alone to 🙄

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 06/05/2019 15:38

This was urgent yesterday, when it actually happened. A child said to you, "Please save me". What's the urgency tomorrow?

Nobody has said you were wrong for helping, you/your husband have been roundly commended for helping. It's your posting about it today, calling for other posters' validation of 'poor parenting' that has grated with me and obviously with some other posters.

That's it really. I'll leave you to it.

BlueEyedPersephone · 06/05/2019 15:40

I think you did the right thing, 8/9 are too young to be left all day, he was injured and possibly concussed, she was rude to not thank you and listen for a welfare handover, she sounds like she was more concerned about being found for leaving them.
Please let school know but also 101 if the whole thing feels wrong, she deserves to have her parenting looked at if that neglectful.
I have an 8yr son and would never leave him alone all day or even to honest let him ride his bike 15mins away alone.
She has a choice, we all do and choosing to put your children's wellbeing first is part of being a parent

janeybumtum · 06/05/2019 15:40

You most definitely did the right thing and it sounds like you and your DH dealt with it very well. The boy's mum obviously knew it would come out she was leaving children unsupervised and going out to work if he'd gone to a hospital and doctors had started asking him questions. Doubtless SS would have got involved. That must have been why she seemed so defensive/reluctant to acknowledge you. If a couple had found my child injured and tried to help I'd have been very grateful and thanking you and taken him to a hospital myself if appropriate. But that's because I wouldn't have anything to hide as I wouldn't have left kids at home and gone to work.

BigChocFrenzy · 06/05/2019 15:50

It's not about 'protecting the mother', the child is the most important in this.

Lyingwitch That's exactly it

I understood the OP was uncertain about what to do and this thread has helped her decide

The mother's response and actions strongly suggest she prioritised staying off SS radar and keeping her job, not on medical help for her little boy.

She might have seen sense later and taken him; we don't know

The reason to phone tomorrow is to check that the boy has been treated / is ok AND that he and his sister are not left alone again for the next accident to happen

Dontcarewhatimdoing · 06/05/2019 15:53

I'm glad to see you are going to report it to the school. It is entirely possible that the boy misled you in his confused state after bashing his head, but if that is the case, it will be easy for the mother to explain and no harm done. The alternative is that he and his sibling were left alone all day, and possibly are regularly, in which case next time it could be something far worse that happens if no one intervenes.

Coyoacan · 06/05/2019 16:05

I belong to an age where a lot of us were left at home alone while our mothers went out to work. Not ideal but a reality. However, even people who are responsible for hurting their children usually take their children to a&e.

The mother is a lot worse than someone who just leaves her children home alone.

Nanny0gg · 06/05/2019 16:09

I'm glad you're at least ringing the school. The authorities need to know so they can help

meow1989 · 06/05/2019 16:12

It's unlikely that the school will do anything with second hand knowledge. They will tell you to report if you're worried.

ShesABelter · 06/05/2019 16:32

You absolutely did the right thing op. Really annoys me on here the people constantly trying to catch the op out and insinuating it's not real..if you don't believe something report it and move on and stop trying to be armchair detectives it's boring.

I'd also be reporting it to the school op if you now know his name and age and shop where his mum works. Along with his injuries they will be able to work out who it is. Its

corythatwas · 06/05/2019 16:56

This was urgent yesterday, when it actually happened. A child said to you, "Please save me". What's the urgency tomorrow?

Head injuries can flair up later. If you take your child to A & E with head injuries, not only will they will be thoroughly evaluated: you will also be given a sheet with things to look out for in the days to come and things to avoid.

iamthere123 · 06/05/2019 17:13

Not that unusual not taking him to hospital my friend is really proud of the fact that she’s never been to a and e because her family would just stitch her up at home! 🙄🤕

Prequelle · 06/05/2019 17:18

It's appalling if that a child - with a head injury and was confused due to said injury - wasn't taken to a&e. Just awful :(

SnuggyBuggy · 06/05/2019 17:21

Report, your story gave me a bad feeling, her reaction seems really off. This child might not be getting any medical attention.

lablablab · 06/05/2019 17:24

OP, you did the right thing in a upsetting, confusing and stressful situation.

I'd be contacting someone too - either the school, SS or the police.

This boy could be severely neglected and in dire need of medical attention right now. If this is the case and it was then reported on the news that he'd died from a head injury, I bet the same people criticising you for jumping to conclusions would be the first to criticise you for turning a blind eye. Go with your gut.

alwaystimeforcakeandtea · 06/05/2019 17:26

Op please report it yourself to SS. Safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility and shouldn’t be left to just schools (and adding to paperwork for them). You can report anonymously via NSPCC.