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To find the royal family fascinating?

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MagicKingdomDizzy · 28/04/2019 14:26

Don't want to make this a TAAT, so I'll just say I have enjoyed everyone's observations on the royal family and it's made a boring weekend go much quicker Grin

Please continue if you wish to......

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LaMarschallin · 29/04/2019 09:27

I've my own conspiracy theory. Is it possible that MN - who surely must be pretty media savvy - included that bit referring to a pregnant woman in the post closing down the last thread not because they didn't realise it was suggesting that any complaints came from MM's people but because it suggested that. I think they were miffed at being leant on so wanted us to know who'd initiated the shut down. Otherwise it just sounded silly
I'm just trying to think of a way to get the Illuminati in there now...🤔

Humpy84 · 29/04/2019 09:36

Hahaha @LaMarschallin this is possible.

I think you could be right, they certainly did give a lot of leeway before eventually deleting. I actually emailed complaint minutes after it was deleted as had withdrawals. The reply said that they were having to delete too many posts. I think the theory that someone was trying to get it deleted is possible. This website is one of the biggest in the UK and gets a tonne of traffic. I would say it is carefully monitored. I think once allegations of Meghan surfaced that went too far, the cord was cut.

@puzzledandpissedoff totally absurd, it all doesn’t stack up, will have a read

LaMarschallin · 29/04/2019 09:38

@lookingelsewhere

I think it was 7 years. There was a little love-pad in London. The mistress was Sarah Johnson, a publishing assistant at the firm. I believe she was also married. I think she lost her job over the ensuing furore.

Ah! Thanks for that, looking. That rings a bell now but I wouldn't have remembered those details without being told. Didn't realise she'd lost her job over it though. Gosh.

Jilly claimed Leo had forgiven her a short fling early in their marriage so they were quits.

Good point. Although it might have been a bit more than a fling. I read about that in one of her non-fiction books but she phrased it along the lines of:
I was surprised that being married doesn't stop you (she probably said "one") falling in love with other people. After marrying Leo I fell in love with someone who fell in love with me and it "rocked my marriage to its foundations".
Only put the last bit in quotes as it's the only bit I remember verbatim.

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 09:40

@LaMarschallin

Oooh yes, that sounds familiar - about what Jilly said. Can't help loving Jilly - I've got a soft spot for her Smile

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 09:44

Royal dogwalkers aren't allowed to put it about though:

www.thesun.co.uk/news/4768253/sarah-fergie-prince-andrew-butler-dogwalker-affair/

LaMarschallin · 29/04/2019 09:48

I've got a soft spot for her

Me too, looking, though sometimes I wonder why Smile. She's obviously got something I like given I can quote bits of her books (overinvested?).

Just to make sure I don't veer too far from the royals, do you remember her writing that they used to find meringues embedded with false teeth abandoned at Buckingham Palace garden parties? Seemingly the ex-owners had bitten in, got stuck and then spotted HM approaching...
I so want that to be true.

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 09:48

Wow! Didn't Leo's mistress have some gall?!

www.upi.com/Archives/1990/09/02/Fiction-into-fact/9874652248000/

Jilly has succeeded in casting herself as the scorned wife fighting to save her marriage, which has galled Leo's ex-mistress, Sarah Johnson.

Finally, she scratched back.

'I am the 'dalliance' referred to in Today's story on Leo and Jilly Cooper's marriage ... (though I don't see how the word can cover an eight-year relationship),' Sarah wrote in The Guardian.

Sarah, a straggly blonde with dark roots, said she met Leo through her publisher boss. She resisted his entreaties to have an affair with him for two year before succumbing.

She confessed to the humiliation of going to Leo and Jilly's country home, 'honestly believing that if we all sat down and discussed it, something could be worked out.' She spent the night apparently sleeping alone and was spent packing the next day.

'I feel, in all honesty, that my suffering has been and will be the greatest, but that it's of little importance to anyone. I do object, though, to Mrs. Cooper continuing to rub salt in the wound by her everlasting undressing in public.'

Leo dismissed her article as 'a load of old cobblers' and Jilly has chosen to ignore it.

MissSallyBowles · 29/04/2019 09:49

I went on a group holiday and met a really vile snobby and bitchy woman who bragged about having been Princess Micheal’s PA.

From what has been said about the Princess this woman must have fitted right in!

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 09:50

Seemingly the ex-owners had bitten in, got stuck and then spotted HM approaching...I so want that to be true

Me too!! [GRIN] That's why I love her so. No matter how old she gets, she's like a mischievous schoolgirl.

LaMarschallin · 29/04/2019 10:07

Ooh! Interesting article, looking.
And, if the bit about Sarah being a "straggly blonde with dark roots" is true, while JC was glamorous in tight dresses (and that bit is true judging by photos) it does rather cast doubt on the theory that PW wouldn't have cheated on the beauteous Kate with someone perceived by some as less attractive.
Hah! QED. (Smile)

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 10:08

Sorry to keep banging on about Jilly Cooper in this RF thread (though it is eclectic!) but this is a nice interview. I think Jilly's vulnerability always comes across and that's why I find her so endearing. She's a delight to interview, it seems:

www.carolinephillips.net/articles/archive/newspapers/evening-standard/jilly-jealousy-and-how-to.html

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 10:09

Yes, I think a lot of times men have affairs like men climb mountains - because it's there...

Humpy84 · 29/04/2019 10:11

This is totally off topic and inappropriate but...

I would like to interrupt this thread for an AIBU that would otherwise have me harassed. Feel like this is safe place.

Have mumsnet crush on dad user that posted on here. Sudden desire to know if he is single, good looking and more information. Is there a name for this on urban dictionary ? Has anyone experienced similar desire ? Not sure if desire is right word.

OVienna · 29/04/2019 10:19

Which Jilly Cooper should I start with? (Never read any.)

Humpy - I think the talk of JC is getting you hot under the collar!

MagicKingdomDizzy · 29/04/2019 10:21

Oh my goodness! I fell asleep last night reading this and have come back to find its reached 32 pages Shock

Good work everyone, I've got some catching up to do!! Grin

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Humpy84 · 29/04/2019 10:21

@OVienna quite possibly, and the photos of KM flirting with so many handsome men is playing on my subconscious.

OVienna · 29/04/2019 10:23

Oh I know! Ben A is SMOKING HOT. They looked cute together too.

BertrandRussell · 29/04/2019 10:25

“Which Jilly Cooper should I start with? (Never read any.)”

Riders because you need the background, then Rivals which is fantastic. I wouldn’t bother with the others- it’s all rapidly downhill from there.

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 10:27

Prince Harry - I'm better than Prince William 2009

short video Smile

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 10:28

I like JC's early stuff - the series of books she did (all girls' names) "Prudence", "Emily" - dated and ancient, but somehow charming to me.

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 10:31

Just gone down a rabbit hole and finding all sorts of videos now.

"Princess Anne marries for a second time, to Commander Timothy Laurence on 12 December 1992 at Crathie Kirk in Balmoral, Scotland. The ceremony was attended by the other members of the royal family."

So simple and unaffected.

LaMarschallin · 29/04/2019 10:32

@OVienna
Ahh.... You never forget your first Jilly....
Mine was "Emily" when I was 13. Certainly worked for me as a first and still would I think. For a quick dabble any of the "name" ones would do, imo. Bella, Octavia, Prudence, Imogen, Harriet, Lucy & Co (short stories).... there may well be more.
As for the bigger books (Rutshire chronicals) I think Rivals is best but much enhanced by reading Riders first.
Non- fiction: I liked The Common Years and Turn Right at the Spotted Dog. Lots more; some have stood the test of time more than others.
She's done a couple of literary anthologies too. The British in Love had a lot of poems new to me, some of which are now my favourites.
Popping off to Waitrose now to admire the Duchy Original range*. Sure I'm cross-posting with looking Smile. Will be interested to see what her suggestions are.

*Tend to treat the DO shelves like museums: lovely and interesting to look at but too expensive to have in my own home.

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 10:33

Non- fiction: I liked The Common Years and Turn Right at the Spotted Dog

Oh yes! I love those!!!

BertrandRussell · 29/04/2019 10:49

Loved watching Anne’s wedding. Particularly Andrew telling the QM to wait when she tried to get out of the car by herself. Imagine if she had broken her ankle on his watch!

RethpoDad · 29/04/2019 10:49

Humpy is it me? 😍🥰😘

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