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To leave a 2 year old for 10 mins

726 replies

BlueSuedeStiletto · 27/04/2019 03:30

2 year old asleep in a cot they can't get out of. Needed to pop to the shops. 10 minutes away if that, child asleep the whole time, doors locked etc. Friend is horrified. WIBU?

OP posts:
Hanywany · 30/04/2019 01:07

Your spelling is atrocious! And as i said before you all stick together and back each other up because your all sheep! You know what you all posted and so do i!

BlueSuedeStiletto · 30/04/2019 01:23

Not big on sarcasm then hanywany? Grin

I think you'll find almost all of the posters actually agree with you, not me. They're just calling you out for being rude.

OP posts:
YemenRoadYemen · 30/04/2019 02:09

Hanywany - JessieMcJessie is not calling you racist. Confused

Go back and slowly re-read her post, otherwise you’ll continue to embarrass yourself.

BlueSuedeStiletto · 30/04/2019 03:04

*YemenRoadYemen

Hanywany - JessieMcJessie is not calling you racist. confused

Go back and slowly re-read her post, otherwise you’ll continue to embarrass yourself.*

This ^^

She really really isn't. She has posted in a balanced and respectful way. You know... like an adult. All you have done is be rude and unpleasant.

OP posts:
mccrown10 · 30/04/2019 03:12

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Catsinthecupboard · 30/04/2019 03:49

I left our dd, 8yo alone for 20 round trip school run (i was looking after my db at that age for a few hours).

I did it ONCE.

i knew that she was sick. Would sit and watch her show. Had guard dog to scare away anyone and a close friend/neighbor in case of emergency.

She got a spontaneous nose bleed! She thought that bc in television, people with mouth blood died. That she was dying!!!

Never. Ever. Leave children alone. Even responsible ones like our dd can have accidents.

(As an aside, my dd are grown now. Does that mean I've aged out of this community? I think that asking questions of people with dc is smart. Stay, OP. Ignore bossypants people.

Speaking of sheep? We don't need to be bossed. Bullied or told to whom we may talk!

Offer your advice then move along. Hijacking a topic is rude.)

shankOO1 · 30/04/2019 06:10

I have before. Left 2 year old and baby asleep in their cots while I picked up older child from school. I was gone exactly 9 minutes(would have been quicker but ds walks like a snail!)

Sb74 · 30/04/2019 07:24

I’ve got a good idea. How about a new site is set up called “crap and neglectful parents and anyone else net” and you could give out badges to each other, like the brownies do, for your achievements - for example, how many times you’ve left your young child at home alone etc and then you can literally wear it as a badge of honour for all to see. Why restrict how proud you are to just Mn(where all articles from what I’ve seen are aimed at parents)?

Not sure how wanting to chat to other parents could be compared with being racist?? I think that comment says more about the poster than me as it wouldn’t even enter my head to think of people being different to me based on appearance alone.

Op - the only moron is you.

I’m signing off.

Hanywany, it’s been a pleasure.

Just for those still not sure; It’s very wrong to leave young children home alone for any length of time.

Good day.

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 30/04/2019 07:25

Sb74 and Hannywanny are the same person.

Vulpine · 30/04/2019 07:46

Anecdotes of bad stuff going wrong when a kid has been left alone for a few minutes are not backed up by statistics. Bad stuff happens every where all the time, there are so many more dangerous things you can do in life than leave a kid alone for 10 minutes.

vdbfamily · 30/04/2019 07:51

Bit bored....I was not just basing my decision on my perception but was taking into account some facts. It is a busy road. Cars are renowned for driving through red lights at both pedestrian crossings , driving too fast. People had already been injured with one death. I had no knowledge of anyone who had left a well, sleeping baby for a few minutes and returned to find them dead, for a reason related to the 5 minute absence. I would make sure no appliances were on, no chargers plugged in, fire not lit, no food cooking etc. And as I said, I knew my babies pretty well and they did not go from fast asleep to screaming hysterically in 5 minutes. As I also have said already , my ' perceptions' were proved accurate when we were involved in a hit and run where my children nearly died on same road. Just out of interest and doubtless to cause further outrage, I also worked for Social Services for years, not as a SW but I did share an office with them and the stories I would hear on a daily basis were heartbreaking. I would happily discuss my rationale with anyone who challenged it and would also happily argue my points in a court of law as I believe my risk assessments were accurate and could be statistically evidenced. When my oldest started school, it was only a few minutes further to walk but was out of sight so even though I could have been there and back in less than 15 minutes, I chose at that point to take the others with me. The first term was a nightmare as she was on half days and I had to collect her at the other 2' s nap time so they screamed all the way and youngest would fall asleep en route and wake up when we got home and then not want to sleep again, middle child who would have to walk and was tired would be grizzly and schoolchild would cry all way home as wanted to stay with her friends for whole day at school. And yet, despite the inconvenience, my risk assessment was different. It was 10 minutes longer, I could no longer view the house, the younger 2 were older and more able to get out of cots etc. It is not as if I gave the matter no thought.

JessieMcJessie · 30/04/2019 07:51

Bless their cotton socks. Cheers OP and Yemen. Over and out.

Eastie77 · 30/04/2019 09:00

I was a nanny in France and looked after a 4 year old and her months old baby sister. Her parents told me it was absolutely fine to leave the baby in her cot, lock the door and take the older child to school and pick her up if baby was sleeping. My French boyfriend's parents had no idea why I found this shocking and other nannies I spoke to said it was the norm. This was in Paris 15 odd years ago.

hippermiddleton · 30/04/2019 09:02

What Sb74 just said! I swear you are in my brain, my thoughts!!! Lol! Everything im thinking you say! Its so weird!

Ah, isn't it lovely when MNers are literally so in tune with each other that they might as well be posting from the same keyboard?

YemenRoadYemen · 30/04/2019 09:56

Not sure how wanting to chat to other parents could be compared with being racist??

It can't be? That's why.

It's called an 'analogy'. Look it up, gain some reading comprehension skills, and likewise, stop embarrassing yourself!

Mrspenfold123 · 30/04/2019 10:00

Similar personalities but different writing styles only one of them gives away how much froth there is in her mouth by the number of exclamation marks at the end of each sentence - there are literally no full-stops!!!
Both subscribe to live by mantras rather than examine individual situations by their particular cicumstances. Take the abuse given to the responsible parent who as far as I can tell sensibly risk assessed that crossing the busy road at an accident hotspot was more dangerous than sleeping in a cot for five minutes. Uncontroversial you’d think, but no, it’s against the mantra. They are too arrogant to accept that people disagree with their approach to life and resort to abuse and indignation rather than rational argument.

IvanaPee · 30/04/2019 10:42

Ah, isn't it lovely when MNers are literally so in tune with each other that they might as well be posting from the same keyboard?

😂😂😂 bet there are socks aplenty in their households...

Hanywany · 30/04/2019 12:12

Oh your still going on well anyone can have a child and call themselves a "parent" but a real parent is someone who puts that child above there own selfish needs and wants! Everyone knows that whatever situation you find yourself in, your child is your responibility you cant just pick them and put them in a cot and leave! If that was a father doing this there would be uproar! Parents have been prosecuted for leaving their children alone at home in cars etc!

Hanywany · 30/04/2019 12:14

For god sake its just bad parenting to leave your 2 year old child on their own!

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 30/04/2019 12:20

@Hanywany

Calm down, you've made your point

Bignosenobum · 01/05/2019 01:29

Madeline Mcçan. Sorry but you cannot leave a child alone. Imagine if a fire broke out. or you were locked out. If social services investigated...

Bignosenobum · 01/05/2019 01:34

OP sounds like you are trying to justify this. I am sorry but you cannot plan for everything. If the road is so bad then why risk yourself. I understand what you mean but it is not worth it. Good luck.

SemperIdem · 01/05/2019 01:41

I am by no means a helicopter parent but no, I would never, ever leave my 3 year old home unattended. The variables are too many, the risk too great.

hany I think, with your excessive use of exclamation marks it is actually Netmums that you seek.

Sb74 · 01/05/2019 07:13

Yes of course we’re the same person? There couldn’t possibly be more than one person outraged by the stupidity of some posters on here could there? The only explanation is that we are one person. Muppets.

It’s no wonder this country is going down the pan with the poor parenting standards shown on here by far too many people... and yet you keep going with your little digs and comments. Child neglect can be such fun to discuss can’t it? How some people ha ha actually look after their kids properly and all that, such fools they are by taking their children everywhere with them, when they could just simply make their lives easier by leaving the kids at home.

And yes, of course the mum who “risk assessed” that it’s safer to leave her 3 young kids sleeping alone while she goes to the school did it for them? What a marter. You should hold master classes. It’s nothing to do with that it’s a lot easier for you not to take your three young kids to school then? You are talking to other parents who know how hard it is to get out of the house with young kids not aliens (well, mainly parents, except those who like to join mums forums coz they have nothing better to do - I wonder if they go to real life toddler and baby groups too...mmm, interesting) Purely all for the kids benefit. Bollocks.

I’m surprised It’s not a feature on This Morning; how to risk assess when you should leave your toddler alone. I’m sure Holly and Phil would love discussing that one! ...getting all the view of those parents, who lets face it, don’t really give at shit, as long as their lazy little arses don’t have to make too much effort in life as they pop to the shops for their fags and booze.

Mrspenfold123 · 01/05/2019 07:59

If you were smarter, you’d know how to spell martyr.

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