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To leave a 2 year old for 10 mins

726 replies

BlueSuedeStiletto · 27/04/2019 03:30

2 year old asleep in a cot they can't get out of. Needed to pop to the shops. 10 minutes away if that, child asleep the whole time, doors locked etc. Friend is horrified. WIBU?

OP posts:
Sb74 · 01/05/2019 08:09

I’m very smart thanks - just too early.

If you were smarter you’d come up something better than attack on a mistake.

The only reason parents leave kids alone at home is laziness. It’s easier. What a great reason. Pathetic.

Sb74 · 01/05/2019 08:12

For your information, and I would never normally say, but I’m in the top 2 percent for IQ. So that’s not bad. Probably why I understand it’s wrong to leave young kids alone and you don’t.

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 01/05/2019 08:38

😂😂😂

Mrspenfold123 · 01/05/2019 08:39

Ess-Bee-seventy-four,
Just has to keep posting once more,
She adds nothing new,
And we all know her view.
It’s really becoming a bore.

YemenRoadYemen · 01/05/2019 08:54

For your information, and I would never normally say, but I’m in the top 2 percent for IQ.

Let me guess, you’re a really stable genius. Grin Grin

Not sure how wanting to chat to other parents could be compared with being racist??

This comment ^^ alone confirms you don’t have the wit or wherewithal to be in shouting distance of the top 2 percentile.

You do realise most people actually agree with you, re leaving small children alone, right? It’s just your blinkered approach that’s causing so much diversion, at this point. 👍

BitBored · 01/05/2019 10:21

vdb, firstly I’m sorry you were involved in an accident. That must have been terrifying, I hope you’re all okay now.

I do think it’s hard to argue with any certainty that it’s safer to leave babies or toddlers unattended than to cross a busy road with them. Your experience was that the road was unsafe as you were involved in an accident. Another family might have left their children and an accident occurred in the home. Their perception would be that leaving young children unattended is more dangerous.

If the road you had to cross was so unsafe that you feared for your children’s safety when crossing it then didn’t you also worry about what would happen to them if you’d been involved in an accident that had left you unable to communicate that your two young children were at home alone? If you’d been injured and weren’t able to talk then it could have been a long time before either you could tell someone about your children or your next of kin could be contacted and realise that your two youngest children weren’t with you. Even if you’d decided that your children were safe alone for 10 minutes that wouldn’t mean they were safe alone for potentially a far longer time.

Hanywany · 01/05/2019 10:24

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BitBored · 01/05/2019 10:27

hanywany, could you please quote the comment I made that you consider bullying? I try to be considerate of others when I post on forums so I’d like to see which comment you thought was unkind. Thank you.

YemenRoadYemen · 01/05/2019 10:32

I’m guessing me telling you to re-read a post in order to stop embarrassing yourself was ‘bullying’, and also suggesting that Sb74 was somewhat shy of genius status was ‘bullying’?

Beautga · 01/05/2019 10:41

People dont need to be abusive to get the point across .It is not safe to leave a young child unattended while you go out for any lenght of time.

Hanywany · 01/05/2019 10:41

Bitbored i do apologise got crossed wires with someone else on mn! Read the wrong post sorry Smile

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BlueSuedeStiletto · 01/05/2019 10:43

I'd also like to see where I have "bullied" you. From my perspective all I did was point out that you're being nasty and judgemental, even to people who actually agree with you. And that you seem to not be able to accept that not every single person in the world needs to think and act EXACTLY like you. You have also told me that I have no right to be here as a child free person.

I can't help but feel that your posts have been the bullying ones.

OP posts:
TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 01/05/2019 10:43

Cyberbullying 😂😂

Hany/sb74/whatever sock puppet you're using... does your mummy know you're on MN when you should be at school?

Hanywany · 01/05/2019 10:52

YemenRoadYemen this quote here "Perhaps you’d also like to ask for a ban on posters who are not the same colour as you because they couldn’t possibly relate to your life?" Is racist she has labelled both me and Sb74 racist when we are not and also the first post i got from JessieMcJessie was to be told to "fuck right off" so if you all actually went back and read through all my posts you would see i didnt get nasty but that you lot did! I have been told that i am not welcome on mumsnet and that im stupid, that you all feel sorry for my children, im a bad parent! And you personally have backed those people up! So that is BULLYING!

Hanywany · 01/05/2019 10:55

TrendyNorthLondonTeen i am ignoring you as you have proved my insticts right that you are in school right now at the back of the class misbehaving! Im a mother and a grown i dont have arguments with children! bye!

Hanywany · 01/05/2019 11:01

BlueSuedeStiletto you said this "If you are raising your children to think as do rather than to respect other people then I think you are a terrible parent and I feel sorry for them" on top of thanking and agreeing with other nasty parties you were jumping on the bitchy bandwagon so to speak!

Hanywany · 01/05/2019 11:02

Also taking the mickey out of my posts so this aswell "BlueSuedeStiletto

HanywanyShe's agreeing wit u bbs. She thinx its wrong to leave a precious lil angle all alone. She is living her mummy life and is da best mummy she can b. Probs doesn't even have a first name now, shes just "Jessieskidsmummy"

WaxOnFeckOff · 01/05/2019 11:12

I can't be gassed to read all the way back through, but weren't you the poster who said that someone without children shouldn't be entitled to a view and shouldn't be on mumsnet? That's pretty horrible when you have no idea whether that person is childless by choice. I hope you teach your children to be kinder.

I think most people are in agreement that it's not a good idea. The risk assessment thing comes from considering the consequences of your actions and putting this above the potential risk when you are talking about young children. There are loads of things we do every day, such as putting on our seat belts, that statistically are very unlikely to be needed but the consequences of not doing are catastrophic. There is very little reason not to, just as there is really not a valid reason to leave a toddler alone.

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 01/05/2019 11:22

"TrendyNorthLondonTeen i am ignoring you as you have proved my insticts right that you are in school right now at the back of the class misbehaving! Im a mother and a grown i dont have arguments with children! bye!"

If you think you're being bullied turn the computer off. 😂

TrendyNorthLondonTeen · 01/05/2019 11:23

Also a grown what?

hippermiddleton · 01/05/2019 11:30

A groan.

Mrspenfold123 · 01/05/2019 11:32

Hany
It is a shame that anyone on here feels bullied. I’d buy you a coffee to cheer you up if I could.

BUT:

If you read and respond to what other people actually say and treat them with respect you probably won’t feel bullied so much. If you ignore what they say and make the same point over and over again while accusing them of being bad parents, you can expect negative reactions. If your writing is riddled with malapropisms, errors of grammar and punctuation, and yet you point out other people’s spelling mistakes, you should expect a few comments about that too.

Lastly, I’m sure you love your kids and want the best for them but I’m also sure that the lady who decided to leave them in their cot asleep while picking up her dd from directly across a busy road loves hers too and is trying to keep them safe based on what she thinks is best.

Peace to you.

JessieMcJessie · 01/05/2019 11:33

Your first post was to tell OP that she was an idiot and would make a terrible parent. You then told her that Mumsnet was only for people with children as those with no children didn’t have a clue.

Anyone with half an ounce of humanity would have stopped posting when OP explained about how she had found support through her miscarriage, but not you, because you bizarrely felt the need to make the same point over and over again with an increasing number of exclamation marks, coupled with your own grandiose notions of being able to dictate who should use this forum.

I and several other people have patiently explained to you why you were not being called a racist when I compared your exclusionary stance by analogy to the way that actual racists think. But you have never even acknowledged that response (perhaps the froth has steamed up your glasses?).

Anyway glad that MN have deleted your ridiculous rant from earlier today.

NameChangeSameRage · 01/05/2019 11:33

If the shop is 10 minis away (is that there and back, or each way, BTW?), you also need to allow for time spent in shop, so OP would be away for at least 15-20 minutes anyway by the time she's shopped and paid.

Original poster
BlueSuedeStiletto · 01/05/2019 13:24

I think the issue, hany, is that almost every other poster who has disagreed with my viewpoint, has been polite and engaged in adult discussion. You have just said tbe same thing over and over again- and were very aggressive from the outset. You're even having a go at people who agree with you!

We get it. You are a mother. But that's not all you are, you are a person and an individual. As is everyone else here. People are entitled to their own thoughts and opinions and to Express them. That includes you, but you need to be respectful.

Case in point, you said I shouldn't be here as I don't have children. I explained that i joined at uni doing research and stayed when I was pregnant and then going through a break up. This, apparently is wrong because YOU only joined after the birth of your second child. You just can't comprehend that anyone might do something different to you, like joining up when child free or joining when TTC a first child, because it's not what YOU did. Open your mind to the fact that everyone is different and you might not feel so "bullied"

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