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The Ten White Horsemen Of The Apocalypse Wedding Part 2

844 replies

jessicawessica · 23/04/2019 13:27

I've never had to start a second thread so no idea if I've done this right.
I couldn't resist the title.

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Halo84 · 02/05/2019 01:11

The entitlement is mind boggling.

I suspect DN is just following orders. Most grooms don’t really care about the nuts and bolts of wedding planning. Most of this, I think, is on DB1. He paid for the wedding, and could have threatened to pull that money if his family were not included.

ScarlettSahara · 02/05/2019 01:35

Just caught up. DN & his fiancee seem self-obsessed & thoughtless. So sorry for you OP & your DB 2 & Mum caught in the middle.

Have experienced similar in some of DH’s family attitude to us & our DD & it hurts especially after consideration shown by us to them has not been reciprocated. Sadly it has affected DD’s self-esteem because she is treated differently to & by her cousins which is the thing that makes me most cross.

Crass behaviour to accept hospitality & discuss all the arrangements in front of you & the children & then leave you out. I should imagine this will be difficult for the family to recover from. How sad when with a little consideration it could have been so different.

EdtheBear · 02/05/2019 02:22

I don't get why the Bride is getting the blame.
I would assume they split the guest numbers venue holds 150 people that's 74 guests each plus bride and groom.
Bride seems to want a normalish wedding, 2 bridesmaids and family on her side. He's filled his side with 10 groomsmen friends and neighbours.

Have I got it right him Mum and Dad are separated? Could it be his Mums family has taken priority on his side?

Oh man ! Why have I just got a crazy vision of the 10 white grooms men pulling a carriage (pantomine style) with the Bride in it.....She'll be riding 10 white grooms men when she comes, Grin

ArgyMargy · 02/05/2019 06:58

I feel a bit sorry for DB1 - having offered to fund the wedding he can't really turn around and demand to vet the guest list. Presumably it never occurred to him that his son would behave so badly.

qazxc · 02/05/2019 08:30

I'd have sympathy for DB1 if he had tried to help the situation but he didn't.

ChilliScallops · 02/05/2019 12:18

Unless i’m missing something, why is the bride getting the blame. If the guest list is split, then DN has made the decisions for his side including 10 groomsmen and NDN. The bride may have prioritized family over more bridesmaids. Which some might say DN should do.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 02/05/2019 12:27

I agree OP.
You DN is the one who chose 10 groomsman and partners and his mother neighbour. The wife to be has a normal amount of bridesmaids and has invited her whole family. So they both had an equal number of guests. Their priorities were just in different places.

M4J4 · 02/05/2019 13:02

Is DB1 paying for the whole wedding? Idiot.

woollyheart · 02/05/2019 14:01

Agree that bride seems to be getting a bad press here. She is inviting appropriate family from her side, and not huge numbers of mates to get drunk with. I'd say that nephew has chosen who he prefers on his side, and that doesn't include much in the way of family. She shouldn't get the blame if this is his choice.

itswinetime · 02/05/2019 16:20

I'm not sure why it's suddenly the brides fault either she has invited her family DN hasn't that's on him! He has made his priorities clear and isn't his family!

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 02/05/2019 18:28

DN AND the bride seem to think me and DB2 are being "very unfair" by not acting as some kind of Uber service.
Well you would think that at least the bride would query why her husband to be doesn't want to invite his Auntie (who is also his Godmother & they see frequently appear to have a good relationship with.) considering the bride has invited all of her side of the family.
(And I bet there will be some of her family member wedding guests she sees infrequently.)

Daisydrum · 02/05/2019 18:33

I am constantly shocked that DB1 hasn’t jumped in to say anything! Especially as he’s bloody paying for it! He should put his foot down (should have done this from the start!)
P.S. Re DN fiancée - you’ve always got to watch the quiet ones.

Graphista · 02/05/2019 18:57

Bloody hell thats some update! Wtf are bride and groom thinking?! They can't possibly imagine this is an appropriate way to behave?!

Sounding more and more like the "quiet" what did I say about not assuming quiet = benign? bride is very much controlling it all and doesn't like your family or want them there, for what reason I can't imagine! You certainly don't sound like the family from hell! Far from!

So I can only guess some kind of snobbery issue - which is bloody rich considering she is neither paying for home or wedding!!

Actually - could it be she's afraid that may come out at the wedding? Still not a good enough excuse if so.

Why is the bride getting the blame? Seems obvious to me and others, highly unlikely this imbalance is occurring purely due to grooms choices, if she were a decent person who believes in family first (excepting abuse etc) she'd have pulled the groom up for not inviting family and he likely would have done so. That is family haven't been invited and hers has very much suggests a decision to do so which at the very least she has agreed to and at worst has orchestrated.

Myself and others from fairly early on have been saying quiet doesn't mean harmless.

Quite honestly sounds like bride has never really been enamoured of grooms family but hasn't had decency or guts to admit this, enjoying their hospitality, support and friendship until now and has now thrown that in their faces.

Op I'm sure you weren't planning to anyway, but even after this farce of a wedding don't ever be drawn into doing this crass, ungrateful couple any favours in the future.

They've made what they think of your family blatantly clear. Leave them to it!

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 02/05/2019 19:17

Blimey, that's an update and a half. In my family my DM (who's 80+ and seriously matriarchal) would have insisted on family unity and seriously bollocked anyone who behaved like DN and his bride. Tbh I can't imagine anyone trying.

Your description of your family before this happened sounds very like mine. Loving and united.

You must be so hurt, as well as angry, OP. I wonder whether DB1 and DN have any idea how much damage they've done. Presumably not. I feel very sorry for you and your DM. She must be heartbroken to see her precious family torn apart by this unpleasant pair's selfishness and grandiosity.

MumW · 02/05/2019 20:32

Bloody hell, as if not being invited after all the wedding talk and thinking you were fairly close isn't bad enough. They've added insult to injury by including copious numbers of the brides family at the same level of relationship.
Think you've dodged a bullet, it will be totally bride's family orientated and the speeches will all be 'in' family jokes and you'd be wondering if you were at the right wedding - I speak from experience.

SauvignonBlanche · 02/05/2019 20:58

Sounds crazy! Shock

Croprotationinthe14thcentury · 02/05/2019 21:15

So are they still invited to dinner on Sunday now?

AWishForWingsThatWork · 02/05/2019 21:37

Wow. Adding insult to injury to discover that all of the Bride's extended family is going ... sister, stepsister, and 15 aunts/uncles/cousins! And how dare you not provide a taxi service for your mum?

I think you've all made the right decision.

Ce7913 · 03/05/2019 02:57

OP, SMH at your and PP's disproportionate and unevidenced blaming of the bride over the actual tool who chose not to prioritise inviting you to his wedding.

If the bride-to-be has any error here, it's that she chose, for a life-partner and the father of her children, the kind of self-serving man-child who sponges off his parents despite being a grown man with a child and who, when presented with a significant financial opportunity to better himself, increase his earning capacity or secure a home for his family to live in, opts instead to throw an self-aggrandizing, showy circus of a stag-do and wedding with the funds then continue on sponging as a married man.

She prioritised inviting her family members over an excessive number of bridesmaids, suggesting she does place some value on both family and propriety.

He prioritised having a chorus line of white-clad attendants, parent's NDNs etc.

For all you know, the bride-to-be did say something during the planning stages, and he dismissed it.

You made it clear that he was pushing for - and has heavily influenced the planning of - this big wedding from the outset.

You also made it clear that the bride-to-be is quiet, less assertive etc. He clearly drives the train in their relationship.

...He certainly doesn't seem like the kind of person who listens to advice that counters what he wants, based on his response to you and your family.

But now you are in danger of performing the oh-so-common mental gymnastics performed by in-laws the world over that shift the responsibility, resentment and blame for your biological relative's behaviour (or the couple's behaviour together) onto the in-law, to rugsweep your bio-relative's bad behaviour and avoid facing the pain that they actually do suck/don't value you.

beanaseireann · 03/05/2019 07:32

Very articulate post Ce7913.
Are you a barrister ?

Nanny0gg · 03/05/2019 07:40

OP is also friends with groom's mother. Wonder if she's tried to set him straight?

Qweenbee · 03/05/2019 08:36

DN AND the bride seem to think me and DB2 are being "very unfair" by not acting as some kind of Uber service

I am now of the opinion that she is a complete Bridezilla. Some of the comments that have been made by her are very revealing. DN wanted the big wedding, but it appears he has created a monster. Her side of the family are definitely running the show now, even if the idea originally came from DN IYSWIM.

The bride and groom are equally to blame. But I agree that the op shouldn't forgive DN on the basis that he isn't now running the show. He is allowing his family to be snubbed and is still expecting the op to be a taxi service. If they weren't equally to blame them one would be apologetic or at least trying to excuse the bad behavior in some way. But neither are.

RandomAmanda · 03/05/2019 08:38

Wow @Ce7913 😮

Excellent post. If you are a barrister can you please defend me if I ever need it?

Ce7913 · 03/05/2019 11:19

@beanaseireann

Thank you for saying so. No, I am not a barrister; I am a med student. I just like to climb up on my soap box now and then. :)

@RandomAmanda

...I could give it a shot?

Do try to commit an interesting crime, though, won't you?

MRex · 03/05/2019 11:41

Brilliantly said @Ce7913. (Don't suppose you have any ideas for my conspiracy theorist thread?)