Smokers are selfish and clearly not very clever

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Today I tried to enjoy the sun but everywhere I went there were smokers puffing away in front of my kids and their own children. It was at the cafe, ice cream store, restaurants, park. Absolutely disgusting. It's hot and my family want to enjoy outside spaces too.

I dont know anyone that smokes. Smokers must have pretty low levels of intelligence if they are willing to slowly kill their bodies even though there is loads of information out there regarding the harms. Why do people smoke still? And do they just not give a damn about smoking in front of children? What goes through their head when they light up in front of a baby in a pram?

ODFOD

You’re being ridiculous. Sitting in a smoking area and complaining about smokers is the same as going to a dog walking park and complaining that the dogs are off lead.

Except she was in a fucking cafe ffs. To the other highly intelligent tar filler poster who said 'all outdoor areas are our smoking areas you should move away'...how the hell can you do that in a crowded cafe when you've paid to eat??

Smokers on beaches with little kids I encounter a lot and will always judge. Sorry not sorry

I am an ex-smoker, I hate smoking with a passion, especially on public places but YABU. You can wish for outside smoke free zones, or smoking zones as that would be easier but you cannot go around questioning smokers intelligence. You sound horrid and judgemental.

Agree OP. And tbh I couldn’t care less if smokers wish to smoke themselves to death if that’s what they choose to do. It only becomes a problem to me if they smoke in my space, but unfortunately if you ask someone politely to blow their smoke in the opposite direction to your face you’re often met with a rant, when they don’t know your circumstances - you might have a lung condition or be pregnant, and that’s where the lack of intelligence, consideration and understanding lies.

Except she was in a fucking cafe ffs

She wasn’t. She was outside the cafe. Where the smokers sit.

I guess I judged people. For all I know the lady I saw swigging directly from a bottle of rose, lighting up cigarette after cigarette in front of her two year old might have a PhD.

In the winter we go outside in the cold and rain, no complaints unless you have to shelter in the doorway, then heaven forbid.

Maybe during the summer smokers should be made to go inside to smoke, oh but wait we aren't allowed to.

Sounding a bit like the non smokers are being selfish here.
I'd loved to have heard them before the ban, but strangely enough there were never any complaints. Even if you sat next to a non smoker.
Oh the good old days

If you'd made it specific to the selfish smokers you encountered today and left out the guff about intelligence, you'd have probably got a whole thread of "YANBU"s.

Funny enough I want to enjoy the sun too, I don't want to sit in a stuffy cafe. I want to feel cool air (clean air). I don't like sitting outside when it's snowing.

Car fumes give your kids way more cancer than a cigarette ever could. Do you drive?

From the op at 20.48 - I was forced to move several times today. I'm talking about enjoying a coffee at a cafe and being forced to move because smokers sat down and lit up right next to my kids.

She was in a cafe

To those saying I have a risk because I do x, y, z... you drive cars too, no I don't, can't because of an issue with not being able to pass the test
live near busy roads live in the country, nearest 'busy' road is miles away
and eat doughnut don't like doughnuts
and drink wine... Don't like wine either
AND you smoke so your risk is increased even more!
I'll give you that, though I also ride a horse a few days a week too, that's pretty risky. I understand the risks of both though and am a pretty considerate person no matter what I'm doing.
As with many things, you only notice the inconsiderate section of that particular group.

I actually don't like driving. I have a licence but am a nervous driver so I enjoy walking. Ha!

HAHA now there was a woman drinking from a bottle of wine? Just stop.

I do, of course, realise cigarettes are very addictive but just why do people start smoking in the first place? Bloody stupid in my view.

All my youngish neighbours seem to smoke. Two of them have just had babies and, of course, they smoked throughout their pregnancies. Next door are always out at the back door smoking. I had the back door open today and the amount of times I could smell their smoke was ridiculous. Their children were out there too.

The woman next door is 29 and she sound like old man Steptoe coughing in the garden ever day. So attractive

She was in a cafe

You’re not allowed to smoke inside cafes so she’s either lying or was sat outside with the smokers

For all I know the lady I saw swigging directly from a bottle of rose, lighting up cigarette after cigarette in front of her two year old might have a PhD.

You think her issue is that she smoked

You witnessed this and simply judged her intelligence and the fact that she was smoking.

If this happened, surely you would have been more concerned about the child whose only adult was a drunk?

I don't get why, when you saw this your mind jumped straight to 'unintelligent smoker'

As an aside, you do know that a PhD doesnt stop someone becoming an alcoholic, dont you?

Yeah not judging AT all

Sure, smoking is addictive. But you can’t be addicted so cigarettes before you start smoking. At some point smokers had to have their first cigarette. And then another, and another, and another, etc etc until eventually they became addicted.

They were fucking stupid dumbasses to ever start. Unless you’re of the generation who was unaware of the health risks, at some point, you chose to smoke that first cigarette, knowing that it was addictive and bad for you, and you did it anyway. And kept on doing it. Which makes you a fucking moron.

I’m a smoker. I have been for over 20 years (bar a year each time I had a child). I’m also very considerate and pretty intelligent thank you very much! I’m well aware of the risks to my health. Your post is so rude and judgemental it’s ridiculous. I know a few smokers and we all smoke away from other people (children AND adults). So maybe judge people as individuals instead. SOME smokers are inconsiderate. SOME people are rude and judgmental.

I started smoking because I wanted to. I continue to smoke because I want to. Don’t really see what’s so hard to understand.

I have asthma. If you you walk near me and spark up a fag, you will induce an asthma attack. It feels very, very wrong that smokers’ life choices impact on my health when I am simply walking to work or going about my business. I believe that smoking in public will be banned soon and it cannot come soon enough.

As an aside, you do know that a PhD doesnt stop someone becoming an alcoholic, dont you?

I don't think OP has much grasp of addiction, impulse control or risk-seeking behaviour at all, TBH.