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AIBU to think his ex-wife-son are taking us for too much

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Shesonlyworth30 · 17/04/2019 21:04

Long time lurker, first time poster. It’s a long one so apologies in advance.

Been with my DF for almost 7 years, have a 3 (almost 4) yr old and getting married in the summer.

DF was married before (to C - she was also married before and had 2 other sons (both older) and has one son with DF (16 this year) who lives with C in Scotland. DF has never not paid for his son, he even chose to have it deducted straight from wages when CSA were in charge. He didn’t trust C and wanted there to be a proper paper trail if ever she decided to say she never received anything. Since we have been together the payments have been just shy of £200. I have never had a problem with him paying for his son.

C has never let DF speak to son or see him since he was 3. She tried to kill herself a few times (once when pregnant and once when son was born) so DF took parental responsibility for her 2 older sons and their own while she was sectioned. They split up when son was 3 and she told a court it would be detrimental to her mental health to allow DF custody and access. Court agreed. (DF living in north of England at this point and C in Scotland)

Fast forward to last year. CMS took over from CSA and they re-assesses him and told him his payments would need to be £500 a month. We argued that this was a massive increase. They said it was because of what he earned. However they were taking overtime into account which we said was wrong. His overtime was not guaranteed and he did that to pay for our wedding/holidays etc. They said they were right. He went to court and while the judge was sympathetic said there was nothing they could do. He even tried showing them that if he had a basic month, with no overtime, paid the mortgage (a not unreasonable £660) gas, elec etc he physically would not have enough to pay the CMS. They didn’t care. They don’t take household expenses into account. He then said he had another child to support (ours) they said they had allowed £30 pcm for her. £30 bloody quid. That’s not even a day in nursery.

Because C doesn’t want him to know where she is she wants everything doing through the CMS so he has to pay their admin charge (extra £83 pm) and now we are in a vicious cycle. He worked more OT last year to pay her and still have money for our savings but because he earned more he now has to pay more this year £634 pcm!!!!

I’m fed up with it. My daughter doesn’t have £634 a month spent on her from her dad. I expected his payments to go up but AIBU to think this is grossly unfair and there is a fundamental flaw in this thinking. Surely if CMS believe 2 children should cost £664 then that money should be split between the 2?

His son can leave school at any time now but we know she won’t tell us so this could be ongoing for another 4 years because there isn’t a doubt in my mind she’ll make son stay at school if she’s getting £550 odd quid a month. Oh and she’s back with her first husband!! 🤬🤬

OP posts:
ConcreteUnderpants · 20/04/2019 01:11

Single something isn't right there at all.
Minimum wage with 1 child would be less than £40 a week.

GunpowderGelatine · 20/04/2019 01:17

single are you paying arrears on top of that? CMS calculator would say about £40-£50 a week.

ConcreteUnderpants · 20/04/2019 01:23

And that's assuming no pension contributions, which as my crafty ex will happily tell you, aren't included as income.

Singletomingle · 20/04/2019 03:51

No arrears from me just standard payments.

pessimisticstateofperception · 20/04/2019 06:36

That can't be right single my ex earns above minimum wage, has 4 children with me and pays £320 per month.

YesimstillwatchingNetflix · 20/04/2019 07:52

@Shesonlyworth30 I think you've been told a pile of hogwash by your DP. You need to inform yourself about what's really going on and stop taking his word for it.

Then you need to be very financially savvy yourself to prevent yourself and your child from ending up in the same situation.

TanMateix · 20/04/2019 22:25

Nah... you have arrears (or are in another country). There is no way you would pay that in minimum wage even if you had more than 2 children.

Singletomingle · 20/04/2019 23:15

I have no arrears it is all done ammicably I was paying £60 a week but obviously this has gone up £10 this month. I do pay more as I dont pay into a workplace pension but thats it.

Beansandcoffee · 23/04/2019 08:32

Singletomingle- I’ve just calculated £300 (£7.50 * 40 hrs) week works out for one child £36 week. Not sure why you are paying so much. Check the Gov website.

Willydish · 04/07/2019 16:43

They would if there is a history of attempted / threatened suicide. If you look at it from their point of view, if they had given parental care/responsibility to the father/step father and she had attempted suicide again there would have been back lash. I have seen situations as a teacher where you would think social care would remove the children because of issues such as this, but nowadays they seem to prefer to but support in place to help Mum. They even have specialist teams - the whole focus of which is to try to avoid kids going into care and keep them in the home - this comes from working in a town with one of the highest ratio of kids in care in the country and THE highest suicide rate.

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