help settle a debate - Alpha male misogynist type men

[BlueishHueOfBlue]

to ask you help settle an argument.

If you know any Alpha male misogynist type men (misogynist maybe unfair but using it for short hand) - very self confident men who tend to be high achievers, high earners and take no prisoners, what hobbies the ones you know do and where would you find them socially?

I have a theory that there is something that almost all these men do without exception... my friend disagrees. I don't want to skew my (highly scientific!) survey in advance...

I'm a keen cyclist and runner, and regularly get abused, insulted, spat at and, just yesterday, nearly knocked off my bike into a ditch, by a twat in a van leaning out of his open window and waving his arms and shouting at me deliberately to give me a fright.

I'm sorry you went through that Daisy. I cycle to get from A to B and have had similar abuse directed at me. Unfortunately some of the attitudes displayed on this thread just feed into acceptance of this kind of abuse. "Oh it must be cycling, they're always wankers". No. Most of them are just trying to get somewhere without some entitled arse risking their life.

Alpha dickhead is a wannabe alpha male who does not have the nous to actually be one, hence the dickhead bit. True alphas don't need to prove it to random people.

I work with one of these. He likes:

Fast cars
Snowboarding
Golf
His hot tub
Barbecues
Steak dinners
Majestic wine

Aren't most people who do cycling seriously part of a team. It's mainly a team sport.

Running and cycling can be team and individual sports. You can enter events as a team or as an individual representing your club. Or both, like cross country for example, you run as an individual to get your position, but your position is also amalgamated with the other members of your pre-declared team. If your club is big enough, you can field 2 or 3 teams.

Golf
Also cycling and triathlons

Generally i would say things that are

• competitive
• can be done solo eg skiing, running
• have some status eg needs expensive equipment, is seen as such.
• mainly sporty

But then again, lots of normal unassuming types may like such hobbies so that will include a lot of men!

Lol @morriszapp
I just know from that list that he bores you to death with his majestic wine banter

@Lichtie. No a lot of serious cyclists do events by themselves as well like endurance rides etc. If you go out by yourself during the week on your bike, theres loads out by themselves on the lanes in the countryside.

A friend of mine does triathlons and he is the nicest man you could ever meet. Not at all a misogynist.

So what?

I wasn't suggesting all men who do triathlons are alpha males. The alpha male type that I'm talking about (super successful high achievers) are not common anyway. So the proposition is not all men who do triathlons are alpha males.

Running, cycling, scuba diving. He plays golf because it’s what men of his class do but it’s more of a work related necessity. For pleasure he does things that don’t involve team playing or even conversing with the little people. (not my DH by the way, this person is more a business acquaintance. He’s vile).

My DH is not the type you describe but he loves cycling, golf, cars. tennis, squash, walking. He's just not a dick!

Golf/squash etc anything networky. I’d say cycling is not for your traditional alpha male, less options for networking - more your nerd / tec bro type who I guess are your alpha male 2.0?

Something to stroke their massive ego and to make up for the small penis No, don't know a man like this, never met one, thank God.

Golf.

And they are clearly not all that interested in car maintenance, because their indicators never seem to be in working order.

Anything that you can spend your way to one-upmanship.

Buying better bikes, cars, steroids, protein powder, trainers, hi-fi, cameras, outdoor gear,

I’ll be honest, I live in an area if London where most men are like this. Most of my friends’ husbands are high-achievers in that they’re probably in the top 1% of earners, if not self-made multi-millionaires. Mainly finance or they’ve sold companies. None of them are misogynists. None are disrespectful to women at all. They do tend to have wives who SAH, as I've done and this is kind of the norm, but that’s simply because, with a family, it’s more practical more than anything else. The main sport they congregate over in recent years has been cycling - these ones are in the 45-50 age group. I think it appeals because it’s induvidual, yet social. They meet similar types for networking. They can upgrade their bikes and kit all the time - plenty of gadgets. They can get out of London in no time. Also they can cycle to and from work and avoid being stuck in traffic.
The other one is racing cars. They do this in Belgium or Portugal mainly, as well as tracks in the UK. Again it’s networking - someone will organise and fly them out in a private jet and transport the cars in containers to the location because they’re off-road cars. Or sometimes they race in their own cars so they can compare each other’s Ferrari’s etc. Other times they go to the north of Sweden and drive on ice, so they can skid around and not hit anything because they’re in the middle of nowhere. Some who have retired early have taken up car-racing or cycling semi-professionally.
Traiathlons etc used to be all the rage, but less so as they get a bit older as they can’t compete with the 30 year olds!

The triathletes I've known have been alright, and that includes two women. Not particularly high achieving either - normal middle class incomes. Tbh the training takes up so much bloody time that I would have thought high flying career high achievers wouldn't have the time!.

Cycling is the new golf
Dh not a misogynist far from it but ticks the other boxes. Guttingly cycling has given him the body of a Greek god whereas I am more ahem normal physically

I escaped one. After the earthshattering realisation that, despite his height and strength, weight training (with associated steroid use), kickboxing, swimming, diving and rowing, he could actually be outperformed by his small, slightly dumpy partner in any public (ie, rules based) sport of his choice and his knee joints, rib cage/lung linings and emotional control were insufficiently stable to make him the Best At Everything (for which I paid dearly), he developed new hobbies -

Offroading deliberately destroying the rural environment with 4x4 vehicles in groups of likeminded morons folk.
Motorbiking spending a fuckton of money on having something that looked great but was only ever used to get from home to work because he was too big to be able to get his knee down and would never have been of any consequence in racing
Trawling the internet for successively younger women with richer parents preferably with at least one of the parents dead so she at least owned one house and a holiday villa in a very hot and expensive part of Southern Europe

He should have stuck with Triathlon. He'd have been a lot happier, as he's still chasing that impossible dream of being superior to everybody else whilst his ideas of superiority all involve things he simply isn't good enough to get all by himself.

At least he's not my problem, though.

Blue

My dd used to belong to a triathlon club, many coaches were Male, part of the adult club and absolutely fantastic with encouragement for the junior section. It was such an inclusive club atmosphere and I was always being encouraged to come along and take part etc

Dd also belonged to a cycling club of over 500 members, here there was issues with ego and speed in some of the club runs- dd stuck to one group as they took her under their wing, so to speak and we’re older with less testosterone

I joined another cycling club and like elsewhere in life you’ll always get the odd knob head but generally all the members are encouraging and great people.

Crochet

Some men do triathlons.
Some men are alpha males.
Not all alpha males do triathlons.

In summary, the OP's stereotype is bullshit.

No hobbies - far too busy building an empire and working towards world domination. 20 hour working days, 7 days a week.

Thankfully mine took up bee keeping!
After rugby, fancy bike and motorcycle.
It’s really funny to see comments by others with alpha males in their lives.
Mine came with a strong sense of morals (other than being a capitalist, easing up now that he’s over 60) so drugs, porn and other women are shunable offences as would any type of cheating.

Yacht racing
drinking
skiing
drinking