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AIBU to take exception to being offered 'a night off' at a wedding?

525 replies

SomethingStupidSomethingGreat · 13/04/2019 23:40

DH and I have been awaiting a formal invite (after the 'save the date' had been sent) for a wedding in 3 months time. We were expecting it to be a child free wedding, which is fine... and to be honest, who 'really' wants to take young children to a wedding?
However, the invite arrived and states
'We love your kids but thought you would like a night off, so adults only please'
... we won't be going as dc2 is bf and an avid bottle refuser so I can't leave her. I don't mind, they are not close family and I have massive wedding fatigue after so many last year... but something has really irked me about the phrasing of the invite. I almost (I won't because I'm only a dick in my head and in anonymous forums) feel like saying...
'Thank you for thinking for us, yes we'd love a night off but unfortunately our dc will starve if she doesn't have almost constant access to my breasts.' (The wedding is 5 hours away).
Full disclosure, I do realise that none of this is the couples fault.
I'm not sure what phrasing would have been better and not irked me? I guess it just grated a bit that actually some people don't have the choice of a night off from their kids no matter how much you love them 😬

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RaffertyFair · 14/04/2019 12:17

Or just "we have decided that it will be a child free wedding"

prettyhibiscusflowers · 14/04/2019 12:17

Yabu.
I don’t care how it’s worded- I’d love a night off.
Also, I’m sure when they worded their invite, how every individual child was going to be fed, didn’t enter their heads.

MenuPlant · 14/04/2019 12:18

I always find it odd as well that people assume gleefully that the people obviously hate children especially the posters children and that is the real reason they have done it eg

"I think the problem is they think they need to find a nice way to say "Your atrocious brats are not invited", and there just is no nice way of saying that"

Calling a BF baby an "atrocious brat" is ridiculous.

People do love doing it on threads like this though, some people like to put the boot in I think/

SomethingStupidSomethingGreat · 14/04/2019 12:19

@MarthasGinYard easier, still exhausting (esp now having two. Still a bottle refuser though.

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minipie · 14/04/2019 12:24

YANBU. I have no issues with people choosing a child free wedding but don't make out you're doing me a bloody favour!

Yep this

IMO invitations are for the people named on the invitation only so there should be no need to state child free anyway. If the invite is addressed to Karen and Jack and doesn’t mention children then it obviously doesn’t include them.

If your friends are the kind of CFs who would bring children anyway despite them not being invited then —why are they your friends— put “sorry we cannot include children”.

minipie · 14/04/2019 12:24

Argh why does my strikethrough never work?

RaffertyFair · 14/04/2019 12:29

I don’t care how it’s worded- I’d love a night off.

That makes no sense prettyhibiscusflowers. They haven't offered you a night off Confused

They may have offered you a reason for having a night off but that's quite different.

MenuPlant · 14/04/2019 12:30

minipie

"IMO invitations are for the people named on the invitation only so there should be no need to state child free anyway. If the invite is addressed to Karen and Jack and doesn’t mention children then it obviously doesn’t include them."

Be careful with this.

I followed MN advice and seeing invites addressed only to us, assumed children not invited. I asked DH to check with one of them but he didn't reply. So we arranged childcare. Got to the weddings hordes of kids everywhere. Bride and groom asking us where the kids were and "oh did you want time off" and looking at us like we were weird for not wanting children there.

Anyway. Be careful with that. Like I say round here the norm is kids so I suppose they thought invite to us would obviously include kids. If I hadn't read MN I would have taken them, wouldn't have occured to me they weren't invited. I had PND so actually the whole thing really upset me at the time (both times!).

ferntwist · 14/04/2019 12:33

I agree, the wording is patronising and disingenuous. If you wanted a night off, you’d organise one yourself, not at their convenience because they don’t want to pay for kids places at their wedding.
My baby also refused the bottle. It was much easier to have her with me than organise back up.

LetsDoThisAgain · 14/04/2019 12:34

Why were you "awaiting" an invitation you knew would be childfree and that you'd say no to? Hmm

You sound like someone who just likes to create drama where there is none.

BlackCatSleeping · 14/04/2019 12:40

I agree it's better to say on the invitation that it's child-free as sometimes it's not clear what the rules are. I think it's fine to just say it simply though. Absolutely no need to beat around the bush about it. All these twee poems and cute phrases that wedding websites and Pinterest suggest just sound twatty.

Jellycat1 · 14/04/2019 12:44

Most child free wedding invites I've seen have said 'except babes in arms' or similar.

MortyVicar · 14/04/2019 12:58

I don't find the message polite or lighthearted as some PPs have suggested. If you want a child free wedding fine, say so - that's not the issue.

It's the assumption that no-one in the history of the world has ever seen through that wording, and that the B&G know (or want it to look like they know) better than the parents what makes for a relaxing evening.

The OP says that she knew this was going to be a child free wedding, what's wrong with the invite saying straightforwardly that children are not invited as they (B&G) want it to be adults only. The wording they've chosen would make me squirm too.

YesimstillwatchingNetflix · 14/04/2019 13:14

YANBU.

They aren't doing you a favour here. The wording is obnoxious. They should just say they want a childfree wedding.

Our wedding was childfree except for parents who would be travelling to be there and people with babies. I made a point of contacting them and making sure they knew they were welcome and to let me know what we could do to make it easier for them to attend.

madeyemoodysmum · 14/04/2019 13:37

Totally agree
Wetookvows

I am only interested in wedding invites if people I truly love

Hopoindown31 · 14/04/2019 13:37

13 pages of anxiety about a some wording on an invite to a wedding that isn't even being attended by the OP. Mumsnet at its finest!

ketchupormayo · 14/04/2019 13:41

I didn't say there was no kids at our wedding I just didn't put their name on the invite! I did make an exception for family members kids as there wasn't a lot and babies who were newborn or still breastfeeding. Overall there were about 4 kids, I think it was fair and everyone seemed happy!

RaffertyFair · 14/04/2019 13:53

Mumsnet at its finest!

As demonstrated by you Hopoindown31 because you couldn't resist reading the 13 pages and adding your opinion Smile

SomethingStupidSomethingGreat · 14/04/2019 14:22

@LetsDoThisAgain yes all about the crane, you read me so well 😂

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SomethingStupidSomethingGreat · 14/04/2019 14:23

@Hopoindown31 but thanks for reading 😢

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Supergrassyknoll · 15/04/2019 09:22

Supergrassyknoll I'm fine thank you. I do not expect their day to revolve around me or my breasts and have not stated or implied that.

You literally did exactly that, lol at your self awareness

MarthasGinYard · 15/04/2019 10:42

Quite

This thread is perpetually bizarre

SomethingStupidSomethingGreat · 15/04/2019 13:52

@Supergrassyknoll ok you win, well done you.

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LGY1 · 15/04/2019 14:05

It would more annoy me because it implies we all have a choice!
Breastfeeding issues aside, it assumes we all have loving supportive families just dying to take care of our babies for a night.

We all deserve a night off but if you don’t have anyone willing to look after your child, you don’t get one.
Tough titties for me & my husband!

perfectstorm · 15/04/2019 14:41

OP, you sound totally reasonable to me. You don't mind it being childfree - don't even especially want to go, so don't mind that you can't, and you say at the start you recognise your situation isn't their problem or doing. You just find the increasing wave of twee insincerity around wedding invitations annoying. I'm with you. They are.

I think it's because the editorial staff on wedding magazines are constantly having to create new copy (for what is, let's face it, a pretty generic event) to pad out their thinly-veiled advertorials, and invitation wording is a fertile option. They can present all of these manufactured etiquette minefields, and equally manufactured solutions, and then over time those hastily thrown together articles are accepted as just what people do to be polite for a wedding, alongside spending crazy amounts of money. So you get those awful poems, or attempts to present something clearly in the interests of the couple (nothing wrong with that; it's their wedding) as being in fact their thinking of you. It's manipulative, and most intelligent people find that irritating. And it's silly, because if people just sat down and thought about what they wanted to say, and how to say it with courteous, tactful honesty, and wrote that, it would be far less eye-roll inducing. Speaking as someone who's had both kinds of invitation, they're really easy to tell apart.

Real manners is generally thoughtfully phrased but honest; if you're going to be asking for money/telling people their kids can't come/planning a wedding a long-haul flight away, then be sincere, and appreciative that you're asking for a favour and not doing one. One of the most genuinely courteous couples I know had a childfree wedding, and were upfront about that, but asked that anyone for whom this created a real issue let them know, and they'd work around it (which they did, in the one case where childcare fell through last minute).

I don't blame this couple, and I doubt you do either. They're trying to say something they find awkward as politely as they can, which is never a fun position to be in, and this has been suggested as a good way. But I'm with you, in thinking they're mistaken in that belief.

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