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I dislike my daughter

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Harveys4557 · 08/04/2019 16:35

I feel an absolute failure and horrible person for writing this but I don’t like my daughter. She is 14, almost 15 and I really struggle to have that mother daughter relationship. Don’t get me wrong, I love her and wouldn’t want anything to happen to her but I sometimes wish I could put her into care. When she was growing up she was a lovely polite girl with lots of friends and adults couldn’t compliment me enough about her. Now she is a lying deceitful troublemaking child. She is the second child and has 3 brothers who are 16, 12 and 10. Every chance she gets she tries to get them into trouble or bring them into a situation when she is being told off. We are a close and stable family but she chooses to set herself away from the rest of us. We went on a family holiday to Turkey in August 2018 and she made the 2 wks a living hell. Every day she caused arguments between everyone. She said that she is the black sheep of the family and she is abused by me, my husband and 3 boys because we do nothing but pick on her. She said she was going to tell her School about how we treat her. I honestly don’t know what to do. I try in every way to involve her. I thought she might be jealous because I am very close to my 3 boys so have arranged for just me and her to do things together like shopping, going to the hairdressers etc but she acts sullen and barely speaks to me. She has little or no respect for anyone in the family. If I am giving her into trouble she will either walk out or argue back. I am scared to even say good morning to her because I never know what mood she will be in. I only have to ask her a simple question and she will fly off the handle. If we fall out before she goes to school I think of her all day and send her messages asking if she’s ok which she ignores. When she comes in I will tell her that I’ve thought about her all day and want us to talk things through. She usually just shrugs her shoulders and tells me that she hasn’t thought of me at all. I know it could just be her age and maybe we have to try and work through this but it has been going on for about 3 years now. Ever since she started her period. She has no pride in her appearance, doesn’t wear make up or takes care of her hair. She said to me about a year ago she was bisexual, I told her it didn’t matter if she was straight, gay or Bi as long as she was happy. 6 months ago she told me she was gay. Again I said it didn’t matter what she was, as long as she was happy. She has told me in the past that she has a gf. I’ve said to invite her round for dinner so we can meet her and she goes crazy saying I’m poking my nose into her business. I would do the exact same thing if she was dating a boy. She tells the most ridiculous lies too. Lies about things people have said and done. I think the bi/gay thing is probably a lie too for attention. (I would never say that to her though) She was boy crazy just over a year ago. Anyway, I’ve waffled on enough, I just don’t know what to do about her. She already hates me, I feel like giving up.

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MenuPlant · 09/04/2019 12:48

Mummyoflittledragon

Interesting

I was strongly encouraged to move out immediately after university > not said exactly but all the stuff around really the family was the 3 of them and I mucked up the dynamic, I was the outsider it was obvious to me - I suppose my mum did it by saying "oh you're so independent" and "I bet you can't wait to move out" and "It will be so much better for you when you have your freedom and don't have to hang around with the 3 of us" and so on

So anyway I moved out straight after uni my brother stayed at home til 40!

Loads of stuff since then which is just odd frankly and underscores that the 3 of them are a unit and I am just something else really.

Still I'm 45 now and trying to accept it all! V hard.

I was a nightmare teen but looking back I had a lot of issues and my mum > as per OP's statement > just didn't like me. And, of course children can tell.

The dynamic with 3 golden boys who do no wrong (really???) and evil girl who fucks everything up for everyone all the time, it's just so sad really. I don't get a sense of where the dad / partner is in all of this, if there is one.

MenuPlant · 09/04/2019 12:49

That's not the same as saying you MUST wear min 4 inch heels (which is very very high) or you can't come.

DonaldTwain · 09/04/2019 13:41

Your story makes me sad for you menu plant. I have a ds and dd and I can’t imagine being like that to my dd. Children can tell, you are right.
I guess, though, that the dynamic wasn’t that healthy for your brother? Sounds suffocating. Hard as it was for you, at least you are independent.

AmICrazyorWhat2 · 09/04/2019 13:52

Just a quick shout-out to the OP as I need to work!

There have been some sad stories on this thread, but the fact that you're asking for advice and trying to improve your relationship with your DD shows that you're doing the best you can to parent her.

I'm slightly frustrated with everyone suggesting that you must be massively favouring your DSs, because you're clearly trying to build a bond with your DD...that's the point of the thread!

No parent is perfect, we all muddle through and we make mistakes.

Good luck Flowers

lisamac28 · 09/04/2019 14:40

Even if your boys are generally nice to her the fact that they are so definitely favoured will be having a terribly detrimental impact on her mental health

Please stop making things up to fit your narrative. OP has already said this is not true and is most likely the other way round. ''Definitely favoured'' indeed Hmm.

PookieDo · 09/04/2019 16:26

@lisamac28
Agree it didn’t read that way to me
It read that there is a lot less conflict with the boys but DD gets the main share of attention out of all 4 of them
Which would be frustrating for the boys as well and could lead to them feeling resentful about it

Comments ignored earlier but there are challenging children who struggle through different phases of their life and i can bet each and every one of you have heard your DC wonder why the challenging kids at school get so much of the teachers time whilst they play by the rules and do as expected. You cannot blame OP if 3 of her DC are well behaved polite and compliant with rules that this must be because she is psychologically warping all of their minds

TheLastNigel · 09/04/2019 16:48

I sympathise op. I have a 12 and 13 year old. The 12 year old speaks to me with little bit contempt unless she wants something. The 13 year old is slightly better in this regard but certainly has her moments.
I am divorced and they also use this as a bit of leverage at times. I can't tell what's them being upset about that and what's just them being bratty.
I really struggle with it and it's actually made me feel quite depressed.
I've been going to counselling myself (notjust about that) but advice there has been to stick to boundaries around acceptable behaviour and ignore the rest where possible. Love them and show and tell them so, but don't overcompensate. I'm trying to live by this but it's bloody hard work and very demoralising at times.

Dd2 has also started counselling which in her nicer moments she says has helped.

ShabbyAbby · 09/04/2019 17:04

I think this is "Alpha Female" stuff.
I was vile to my Mum once I started my periods. Literally every month I would hate her. Be horrible to her. We would row, then make up the next day.
It was like a war zone once a month.

Also she used to irritate me constantly. We had always got on and had a good relationship (and do again now!) but as a teenager literally everything she did would irritate me. I felt like she didn't understand anything I was going through at all, and the nicer she tried to be the more irritating I would find her.

I am prone to depression, hormonal depression, hormonal migraines etc. And I think those hormones were most intense when I was a teenager. I was like one big raging hormone for a while there. But (obviously) your sons hormones and "alpha" stuff doesn't come into conflict with you at all. Boys compete or compare with Dad, instead. Consciously or not.

SkintAsASkintThing · 09/04/2019 17:23

PookieDo that was exactly the.situation with my my siblings and I.

Us girls took all the attention, my eldest sister in particular and.he got on. Got himself a few paper rounds.to pay for things, kept his.room tidy, chipped away.at college and.uni etc.

I didn't realise it had.affected him until he made a comment one day when we.were.talking about school days, he.said.he.didnt even bother bringing the letters home for school trips as I knew there wouldn't be the.money. But 'screechy sis' always made sure she went.

Almost 50 and that's the only comment he's.ever made. He moved out when he was 16 and built his.own family through friends, . Screechy sis wonders why she rarely sees him Hmm and isn't too interested in us either.

I look back and I'm honestly ashamed at how things were at times, teenage girl or not. There was no need for it.

I actually think the op needs to make sure.shes making time for her son's as well. Because they're still just kids themselves. They need looking out for.......even.if.they.are.self sufficient.

poobumwee · 09/04/2019 17:24

Is there anything else driving her behaviour? Is she worried about anything? She needs to know you have her back. Always. And I say this as a parent who is really going through it with DS. Make sure she knows she is loved. And be available to talk

PookieDo · 09/04/2019 18:41

Dominant behaviour isn’t just a boy thing don’t assume, girls can do this too. I am single parent and my DD feels the inherent need to be the matriarch of the family aka controlling and dominating everyone. I was only 22 when I had DD so was fairly immature myself in many ways (I hadn’t been very independent before) and this shows now more than it did when she was younger.

Agree re time for the boys. My DD14 actually has burst out in tears before because she feels like no one listens to her because DD16 can be very over powering - DD2 feels ignored

cestlavielife · 09/04/2019 19:03

"grounded until she can speak to me and her Dad with respect."

That s a silly grounding.
Grounding for x time because she did xxx makes more sense.
Grounding until you do xxx (unless it s specific and concrete like the washing up) is silly.

She's a teenager
She has no reason to think of you all day.
"How to talk so teens will listen" is a book with some good ideas

KellyHall · 27/10/2019 20:41

You're right that all she needs to know is that she's always got your love and support.

That was all my mum could do for me when I was a 13-19 year old arsehole! We were very close before and after - I'm now 35 and have a 2 year old dd, I'm dreading all the karma that I'm due Sad

yellowallpaper · 27/10/2019 20:55

I think you just have to grit you teeth and live through this. Do the best you can and try not to react to her. Her behaviour is attention seeking in the extreme. Ignore the troublemaking and lies if possible and carry on being a good mum.

Wheezeymcleazy · 16/11/2019 22:08

Had this exact same thing repeatedly said to me when I was a small girl upwards. My mum didn't understand my anxieties etc when growing up or put any effort into listening to me. I was at my grans every day and felt like a burden to them all. Being told repeatedly that she loved me because she had to but didn't like me as a person made us even more distant.

Thenamedame · 26/11/2019 10:39

Sorry out of laziness I haven't read the rest of the replies but I just wanted to jump in and say that at 34 I was diagnosed with PMDD which is an utterly horrific extreme form of PMS. It's only now looking back that I can see I always had it but it just got significantly worse after I had my last baby.
My teens were horrific and honestly I think my mum could have written what you wrote easily. I was vile and tempestuous and she disconnected and couldn't deal with me (in hindsight I don't really blame her) because neither of us understood what was going on we just clashed. Try and track her periods and see if there is peaks and troughs in her moods. If you start to notice a pattern take her to your go, she may need to go on the pill to stabilise her.
If that is what's going on please try to have compassion for her. I know her behaviours and moods are hideous but honestly if that's it she has Zero control over her temper and has no idea what's happening to her. It's the most horrific thing I have ever been through.
I hope you guys come through all this. It took me and my mum a good 20 years because we didn't know but we have a great relationship now. I hope this can save you from having to go through what we did x

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