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Believe what a medium has said?

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wellhelloyou · 07/04/2019 06:53

Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

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RosaWaiting · 07/04/2019 17:06

puzzled

the previous poster suggested "secretly" recording a session and listening back to see if you'd understood/misremembered etc

I said my session was recorded, by the person, on a tape recorder - that old! - and my understanding was that it was normal for the price to include a recording.

now they tell you to record on your phone if you want to.

so there is no "secret" recording necessary. I didn't understand why pp suggested it. Are lots of these people operating with "no recording" rules? in that case, don't go!

just seems logical to me that anyone seeking out this kind of thing should not be giving a real name or any pre info that might be searchable in any way. Would seem equally logical that if the business owner said "no recording" you'd say "this isn't for me".

legalseagull · 07/04/2019 17:10

My mum saw one that told her she was date a police man called Peter who had a brother in Australia. 20 years later she did. She had forgotten about the reading at first so she didn't hunt out police man Pete or anything! Couldn't be more specific. She was also told a friend would steal from her - he was. Burgled our house 3 times.

LHMB · 07/04/2019 17:13

My DM had a close friend who can read cards but she hasn't done it for many years, she used to do it for free she read a friends cards 1 night and couldn't get anything through she thought it was because she had a couple of drinks and said she would re do it next time the person came round, they died on the way home in a car accident...

I've heard a very similar story to this one, someone I know said he had a friend who went to a fair with his friend, there was one of those fortune teller booths. They decided to go in just for a laugh, completely sceptical. She read one fortune, then when she came to the friend she said she was sorry, but she couldn't see anything, it was all just black and nothing. This guy was killed in a motorcycle crash on his way home!

KidLorneRoll · 07/04/2019 17:33

"Someone claiming to be a psychic or medium couldn't just rock up and say "test me"

And yet it's convenient they can rock up at shows, fairgrounds etc and provide readings on demand, isn't it?

DioneTheDiabolist · 07/04/2019 17:50

I'm not sure what your point is KidLorneRoll.Confused

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/04/2019 18:16

some of the criticism is that the Randi Foundation used these controls to ensure that valid applications considered credible did not make it to the test

Two thoughts occur here. The obvious one is that the subject was looking for an excuse to avoid a test they knew they'd fail ... and the second is why the Foundation would choose to exclude a potentially genuine subject, knowing the money and fame heading their way if they'd identified the world's first real psychic

RosaWaiting the secret recording I referred to was that sometimes done by the "psychics" of their potential sitters, the use of earpieces and so on. But on the subject of those made by the sitters themselves, I've often found it surprising how reluctant they can be to share these with anyone not wholly believing

I once worked with a lady who claimed to have a whole batch of these, allegedly so accurate that she ran her whole life by them. Funnily enough, though, while she always promised to share some to show just how accurate it all was, there was always some reason it couldn't happen

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 07/04/2019 18:22

I had a reading and though I didn't think much of it at the time , it came true.

But as I've already posted about it on other threads and been told I am stupid/gullible etc then I shall not elaborate But I know what I know Hmm

DioneTheDiabolist · 07/04/2019 18:23

why the Foundation would choose to exclude a potentially genuine subject, knowing the money and fame heading their way if they'd identified the world's first real psychic
$1million is a lot of money. Face would be lost if it was proven that James Randi was wrong and the raison d'etre of his foundation would cease to exist.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/04/2019 18:33

Face would be lost if it was proven that James Randi was wrong

Possibly, yes, but I've no doubt he'd have made a good job of presenting himself as a Damascene-like convert if anyone genuine was found, and the prize money would certainly have been dwarfed by what he could have made from his "amazing discovery", given the impact it could have had on the world

Debatable perhaps, but a darned sight more credible than some of the psychics' outlandish claims ...

Treacletoots · 07/04/2019 18:34

Some psychics are totally ripping people off. I accept that. But I have seen one or two over the years who really really did predict things they couldn't have known.

I was single at the time and she suddenly smiled and asked who was the London connection. I lived in Derbyshire at the time but had been seeing someone casually who lived in Luton. She accurately predicted he was much younger and very tall/ well built. He was 10 years my junior and a 6ft 4 kick boxer.

She also predicted my meeting DH. She said he would be dark haired and someone at work. I laughed because there was no one at work I was interested in. Then less than 6 weeks later he had split up with his exW and asked me out.

They also told me my dog's name and said I'd been tolerating an overbearing mother for a very long time and would soon say enough is enough. I did....

BertrandRussell · 07/04/2019 18:37

Janes Randi, like all other thinking sceptics, would happily admit to being wrong if presented with irrefutable evidence. Even Richard. Dawkins calls himself an agnostic because there is the possibility that one day he will be proved wrong.

DioneTheDiabolist · 07/04/2019 18:43

I'm not so sure about him having a Damacene conversion. And I'm also not sold on the amazing money making abilities of knowing dowsers or those who can identify the sex of the writer of a letter, just by touching it. I can see money for the winner, but none for James Randi.

"The James Randi Educational Foundationwas founded in 1996 to help people defend themselves from paranormal and pseudo-scientific claims", not to prove them.

StoneofDestiny · 07/04/2019 18:44

If there was such a thing as a psychic they'd be the richest people on the planet, used by multinationals, banks and governments to predict the 'next best thing'. As it is they are charlatans who prey on the gullible and vulnerable.

DioneTheDiabolist · 07/04/2019 18:45

Or even just test them in an unbiased fashion.

KidLorneRoll · 07/04/2019 18:45

"I'm not sure what your point is KidLorneRoll"

The point is that all these psychics who duck out of controlled tests because they can't turn it on and off have no problem booking readings days/weeks/months in advance. If they can't turn it on and off at will, they shouldn't be doing that, should they?

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that Sally Morgan doesn't turn up at packed theatres and say "oh, sorry, it's not working tonight, here is your money back".

DioneTheDiabolist · 07/04/2019 18:47

Janes Randi, like all other thinking sceptics, would happily admit to being wrong if presented with irrefutable evidence.
He wasnt really a sceptic though, he was a debunker and climate change denier.

DioneTheDiabolist · 07/04/2019 18:52

Kidlorne, the original point was about the fact that the Randi Foundation would not test everyone who would request testing, not that the psychics were ducking out. I'm not sure, but I don't think that fairs and the like require their psychics to have a media presence and provide a notorised account of powers from an academic before they get a stall.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/04/2019 18:58

I guess, in the end, so much comes down to what we want to be true. Some of us are sceptical while still accepting there's much we don't know, while others can sometimes be so wedded to a belief that doubt simply isn't acceptable

Personally I'll hang onto a bit of scepticism for now. Real proof of psychic ability would honestly be welcome for its world-changing potential, but it just doesn't seem to be there - especially when everything claimed so far has been so thoroughly debunked

Lifecraft · 07/04/2019 19:25

Phoenix Nights:

Psychic: Cross my palm with £10, and for that you get to ask me two questions.
Punter: Here you go, but £10 is quite pricy for 2 questions, don't you think?
Psychic: I suppose it is. And your second question.....

BelfortGabbz · 07/04/2019 19:38

Kick enough balls and you'll score a goal.

KatharinaRosalie · 07/04/2019 20:09

Really, check Derren Browns' videos. He 'knows' amazing stuff, and he's not a medium.

About rubbing chest - good chances you are worried about something, meaning you could easily interpret it as referring to your heart. I've seen plenty of mediums making big circles covering the entire stomach, chest and head and proclaiming that the dear person they are channeling died due to a problem in this region..

shesgrownhorns · 07/04/2019 20:12

I was a sceptic. More than a sceptic really, a total ridiculer. I am science minded and atheist. I never even believed in Father Christmas as a kid ffs.

Until I met Alfred at a party.

'That's Alfred, he can see things'

I ended up challenging Alfred in a very disrespectful way. He soon shut me up though by remarking how I was in a rush this evening and that I had left the iron on at home, but it was was fine. (cue panic - I immediately remembered that I had and I was 50miles from home). He also said I had dried my knickers with a hairdryer - I had. Ewww. (Alfred was at least 70)

Alfred told me that my mother had a very large scar that ran down her back and around to her front (my mother had had closed heart surgery and this exactly described the scar)

He said he knew I was having problems with an evil man, and if I brought him a photo of my father he would try to help me to deal with the problems. He knew exactly who it was that was trying to make my life a misery at that time. I never took him up on it - I wanted to, but I wanted to pay, and he said he never charged.

I asked him how the hell he did it and he said he didn't know, he'd just always been able to see things if he put his mind to it. He was a lovely man.

He didn't tell me anything useful or predict anything in that short conversation but it was enough to convince me that certain people can do freaky things!

I should add that this was 20 years ago - I've been to a clairvoyant since and she was shite - I could feel her frustration that I wasn't 'giving' her anything. I think the vast majority of them are frauds.

But Alfred definitely wasn't :)

SheWoreBlueVelvet · 07/04/2019 20:13

kick enough balls and you'll score a goal

But that only works if you tell everyone the same thing. Mine told me ”You’ll meet a dark stranger”but certainly didn’t tell my friends that.

Again, why are scientifically trained meteorologists allowed to be wrong/ vague pretty much everyday but not psychics? You could just as easily say “well anyone could predict it would be warm this week because it’s summer”. Or “ the chances are it will rain somewhere in the U.K.”.

Milly345 · 07/04/2019 20:16

I have seen a medium, she knew everything all my family’s names and events

Sorrywhat · 07/04/2019 20:32

My husband’s nan reads palms. The first time she read mine she said the following:

I would be pregnant very soon (found out I was pregnant the next day)
It would be a girl (it was)
Someone in my family would be very ill (my dad was taken to hospital that same day, something not normal for my dad)
I would start a new job soon which I will enjoy (I was starting a new job in a few months and do very much enjoy it)
I had someone watching over me called Alice (I didn’t know who Alice was? Apparently she was my great auntie)

The only thing she said which hasn’t happened is I’d have a windfall of cash (still waiting on that one!)