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Believe what a medium has said?

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wellhelloyou · 07/04/2019 06:53

Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

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Kannet · 07/04/2019 20:34

A work colleague of mine is adamant that I am physic. We where at a works party, he had had a few drinks and got a bit upset because his latest girlfriend had dumped him. I knew he was desperate to settle down and was heartbroken. I said something like " I know you will meet someone soon, I bet by this time next year you will have met someone wonderful". By the following year he has a new finance and she was pregnant. He told everyone who would listen that I had predicted it and I had a gift!!

FraAngelico · 07/04/2019 20:44

The ‘psychic’ who refuses to read for someone, or who does and sees nothing, and the client dies in a crash on the way home, is a well-known urban myth.

And I’ve told this on here before, but my mother talked throughout our childhood about this astonishingly accurate psychic she’d seen, who got everything right and predicted the sexes and number and birth order of her children and knew impossible amounts about her childhood and parents etc etc, and about whom she talked with total reverence.

One Christmas when we were all adults, a transcript my aunt had taken of that ‘reading’ turned up in a twentysomething year old handbag. Predictably, my mother had exaggerated, innocently, the ‘hits’, a lot of it was vague stuff about initials and illnesses, and the rest was general stuff any half-competent cold reader could have inferred from my mother’s age, clothes, social class, country accent, wedding ring etc.

GimmeBread · 07/04/2019 20:54

I dunno, I think there's something in it. I went to see one ages ago and she started talking about windows. And too look out for windows. She couldn't say what it was about windows but she as laughing and saying "all I'm getting is windows. Do you know what it might be?"

I giggled because while I was waiting for my pal to pick me up to go to said medium, I was standing by the window and noticed a bunch of handprints all over it like the kids had been standing on the sill planting their hands everywhere. I cleaned it while asking the kids, who were tiny at the time, "while the heck had been planting their hands all over the window?"

Totally random and meant absolutely nothing but she can't have known about it. At least it didn't involve the dearly departed 🤷‍♂️

Morticiaismymumgoal · 07/04/2019 21:27

If there are genuine mediums who can talk to the dead or psychics who can predict the future why don't we know where Madeline McCann is? Or Ben Needham? Or Corrie McKeague? Surely even if they were alive one if their dead descendants who were watching over them would come forward to help their relative? They're just the most high profile names that came to mind. Jack the Ripper? And when there's an unsolved murder why don't police just take the bereaved family to the local medium? Even if 50-75% of them are false BUT there are some who are real why wouldn't they put themselves forward and go around solving crimes with great accuracy? Who would deny that to grieving families even if they weren't in it for profit? And if they were in for profit the'd be paid a bloody ton by police forces who would spend far less on lengthy investigations.
If the psychic side were real, why would doctors not use them? For the PP whose reading told her her breast pain she was having investigated was ok, if this person announced themselves to the NHS and could prove accuracy we'd have lower waiting lists, far less money spent on investigations etc etc.
I'm not saying these one or two could change the world, they probably wouldn't be believed. But if it were a genuine gift that more than one person had these things would be happening already. Why do you think this isn't the case, as a question to believers?

Lifecraft · 07/04/2019 21:32

Again, why are scientifically trained meteorologists allowed to be wrong/ vague pretty much everyday but not psychics?

Firstly, they are not. Weather forecasts an remarkably accurate most of the time. But confirmation bias means you forget all that, and focus on the times they are wrong. The opposite of psychics, who get it wrong most of the time, but people forget that and focus on the times they get it right.

Secondly, weather forecasters don't claim too have special powers. They admit that what they do is a highly educated and computerised guess, based on complex modelling. But the weather system is very complicated, so a small error in their forecast for Bristol can mean a big error by the time that system hits London.

The comparison between the two is ludicrous.

madcatladyforever · 07/04/2019 21:38

Anyone who does this for money is wrong. If you have a spiritual gift it should be freely given. Get a day job to pay the bills like the rest of us. I believe money corrupts gifts like these.
I know a lot of you don't believe but a lot do also.

NotMyFinestMoment · 07/04/2019 21:46

I think in many many cases, many of the people who purport to have psychic abilities and the gift of mediumship are full of shite. However, there are genuine psychics and mediums out there. I have direct experience of this as I sit in a 'development circle' in a spiritualist church which is full of practicing mediums (or people who are there to observe and hope to have messages passed on to them from loved ones who have passed on). The vast majority are meh at best and far to vague to work out if they are genuinely on to something, or don't wish to look stupid compared to the more experienced and gifted people within the circle. There are at least 3 who are there most weeks and are exceptional when it comes to making contact with the other side and passing on meaningful and accurate messages.

BertrandRussell · 07/04/2019 21:50

“Anyone who does this for money is wrong”
It’s only wrong if it’s not real. If it’s real then why shouldn’t people be paid for their work like anyone else?

FraAngelico · 07/04/2019 21:58

Morticia, depressingly, there are mediums who claim to have helped crucially with police investigations of crimes — Doris Stokes used to claim she’d helped with specific cases.

Actually, there was an interesting thread on here about it, possibly started by someone deluded enough to think that a document mentioning psychics from the College of Policing meant the UK police thought they were legit, when in fact it was clear the document was factoring in the possibility that someone would try to give actual information on a crime under the guise of a ‘psychic’ vision.

And I came across on YouTube only a few weeks ago an incredibly grim, exploitative video of an American ‘psychic’ claiming to be channelling the voice of Madeleine McCann. I didn’t watch it, but she was putting on a little girl voice etc.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/04/2019 21:59

Anyone who does this for money is wrong

Even the ones who claim not to Hmm

A "psychic" once came to a W.I. I belonged to - stupidly, I didn't check the speaker list before going. To give credit where it's due she was very clever, starting with an attention-gripping anecdote of a grandson who's life she'd mysteriously saved and keeping the hook baited with smaller tales throughout. Every cliche available was in there, from "I never sought out this gift" through "most of the others are charlatans" to "of course I'd never charge" and the hot-eyed intensity of the listeners was something to see - especially as they usually jabbered over every other speaker

Come the end, she smiled sweetly and explained that there were some very strong auras around (unnamed) members, so just on this one occasion she'd accept bookings from anyone who wanted one for "a small consideration"

The stampede was immediate ...

SheWoreBlueVelvet · 07/04/2019 22:03

Lifecraft How can the weather forecast be remarkable accurate when two villages 10 miles apart have different weather depending on topography? Being near the sea or further inland or on the flat or a valley. I get they predict a front or wind but how that manifests itself is very dependent on smaller factors.
I is absolutely not the case that I remember them getting it wrong. The weather is very different in the 3 locations I travel between in a day.

Maybe psychics are the same? They see a second child/new partner/ change of job. But only if you carry on as you are now.

BertrandRussell · 07/04/2019 22:13

Oh ffs. People aren’t seriously comparing psychics and meteorologists, are they????

NotMyFinestMoment · 07/04/2019 22:16

There is also a distinction between a 'psychic' and a 'medium'. I believe all genuine mediums are psychic, however, not all psychics have the gift of mediumship. A lot of people have this misconception that a genuine medium will predict your future, this is not the case and not their job. A medium provides proof of life after death, not what horse you should back or what numbers you should pick on the lottery as that I imagine is the psychic's job. Another thing you should consider is that you should treat a visit to a medium as an 'experiment' and be open minded about it. If you are trying to get through to a particular person ( say a deceased partner), that may or may not happen. Even with the best will in the world, even an experienced Medium cannot always get through to the person you are specifically trying to contact, but what you do often find, is that other members of your deceased family and deceased friend's will try to get through and pass on messages. If you think of a genuine medium as an 'antenna', he/she will in effect sends out a signal and this gets picked up and a bridge is formed between this world and the next one. Then whoever wants to come through, will come through. But you can't make a deceased love one come through if they do not want to be reached. I also suggest you take what you hear with a pinch of salt and not make life changing decisions based on what you hear when sitting with a medium. View what you are told (if it is useful information) as a little something extra in your ammunition, but do not make life changing decisions based on it. I also believe you should allow a decent period of mourning before ever considering seeing a Medium as you are vulnerable to exploitation as in my humble opinion, there are many who claim to have the gift but very few that really do. To find a good medium, go to a spiritualist church and attend a few services (all are welcome). They normally have professional mediums and/or fledgling types who are coming up from the development circles as they are becoming good enough and accurate enough to do platform work. They tend to try to pass a message to everyone in the congregation during a church services. Go to a few different services and observe the Mediums at work. When you find one you like, speak to them at the end of the church service and find out how to go about having a private reading. This is probably the best and most accurate way to get a genuine medium.

Morgan12 · 07/04/2019 22:27

I seen a medium once who told me that someone came through for me. Let's call them Janet.

So Janet came and spoke to me and told me that they knew what I had done and they were very grateful. More details were given obviously but I don't want to disclose them as it's very personal. But they knew all the details of what I'd done.

I'd never ever told another person about Janet or what I'd done. I swear not a single person except me knew this. I had never even said it out loud to myself. So I have no explanation of how the medium could have known other than Janet was really there and told them.

NotMyFinestMoment · 07/04/2019 22:29

Another thing, do not be tempted to try to summon up spirits yourself or use ouija boards. This is a sure fire way to causing problems for yourself. You wouldn't invite strangers in to your home or leave your front door open. The same applies in the spirit world. Be careful of what you are trying to summon up or connect with and make sure you understand how to ask them to leave afterwards. Development circles and the church services which take place in the spiritualist churches are generally headed up by very experienced mediums who in many cases have decades of experience and know what they are doing. They can also deal with any problems should they arise.

KissingInTheRain · 07/04/2019 22:31

How come no psychic has ever predicted the police or trading standards coming to nick them for fraud?

Morticiaismymumgoal · 07/04/2019 22:34

Fra, I have seen lots of that sort of thing online. I remember noticing a lot of it when Making a Murderer came out on Netflix, for some reason that had a lot of people saying a medium had said X or Y. I don't doubt that there are lots of people professing to know what's happened to Madeline, Ben etc. But if it were a real thing, those people would have come forward and by now it'd be normal to contact one of the known mediums, the police would do it all the time, solve all the cases and when one very accurate medium retired there'd be another who was genuinely communicating with the dead to step into their shoes who would also have high accuracy readings. But no such thing exists and I was wondering why people who believe in genuine mediums think that is.

BertrandRussell · 07/04/2019 22:36

You do know that ouija boards were invented by a manufacturer of board games in the late 19th century?

SweetMarmalade · 07/04/2019 22:38

Only read the first page but have to agree, after seeing programmes with Derren Brown and also going to see him live, I can no longer believe that it’s only a gift of being able to read people exceptionally well and (in some cases) profiting from it.

I would LOVE to believe that there are people out there who can see my dead relatives and can pass messages from ‘the other side’ but sadly the older I’ve become the less I believe in anything living beyond our time on earth.

NotMyFinestMoment · 07/04/2019 22:39

“Anyone who does this for money is wrong”

Some of the people I know who do it have been reading and sitting in development circles for decades. They have actually spent considerable time honing their gift and practising their craft. You wouldn't give your time or services for free, so I am surprised why you would think anyone else would.

NotMyFinestMoment · 07/04/2019 22:41

lol, maybe it's because they were not genuine to begin with.

Acis · 07/04/2019 22:44

She then said two more names - all unusual not John or Jane but I won't say here. They were the names of my dead friend's mother and husband. She spoke at length about the funeral including the colour of the flowers and an unexpected guest who had turned up. All about a year before this reading

This is a sample of the type of thing I just don't get about mediums. Look at the scenario: you're dead, but someone you love manages to make contact with you. Do you tell them you love them and talk about them and your life with them, or do you ramble on about the flowers and guests at a funeral? I can't see any reason why you'd use up this unique chance of communication with whittering about trivia.

Fiveredbricks · 07/04/2019 22:44

@Morticiaismymumgoal there are some that have helped police forces - off the books.

It's not that they're 'psychic' as such - they are 'super readers'. In the same sense that some people could naturally compass their way home from the other end of the country without help, but their subconscious was actually reading signs in nature and the location of the sun and stars etc... some people can put 'puzzles' together or spot patterns in behaviours and the bigger picture that others can't - but attribute it to their gut feelings. The best detectives, investigators, and the best body guards are all super readers.

But when it's Norma from #52 down the road... they don't know how they do it, they just do it.

Just like they use teams of super spotters to trawl hours and hours of CCTV to find certain people's faces or outfits, they use every avenue available.

KissingInTheRain · 07/04/2019 22:44

They have actually spent considerable time honing their gift and practising their craft.

No doubt. Fraud and deception can be learned and improved. Mystical ‘powers’ can’t.

MulticolourMophead · 07/04/2019 22:44

So I have no explanation of how the medium could have known other than Janet was really there and told them.

I've come across the theory that it's not spirits, but simply telepathy; the medium picking it up from you and presenting it within the context of their understanding.

But of course, that assume telepathy exists, and the jury is out on that one, too.

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