Believe what a medium has said?

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Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

Litecraft I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. Can I ask why you went in the first place, were you a believer and now you're not?

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I have never wasted my time or money visiting one of these scam artists, and never would.

I don't think it's harmless to con people out of money. And it's not harmless for mediums to pretend to know things about someone's future.

They can sow seeds of doubt about health, relationships and your career. Things like:
"Aunt Edna is saying to be wary of the new man in your life..." Or "I see a change of career as you become unsatisfied" or "you ought to be careful with your heart...I see a history of heart problems in the family..."

If you actually believed every word a so-called psychic told you, it could be self-fulfilling and really adversely affect your otherwise autonomous decisions.

All because you think it's 'meant to be'.

Total bullshit.

But Harry The people who go don't feel ripped off as they believe in it. It's like a faith to them.

Aw, Litecraft apologies I meant to say Elizabeth yours was the quote.

But Harry The people who go don't feel ripped off as they believe in it. It's like a faith to them.

Still doesn't mean they aren't getting ripped off. A great conman wants repeat business. It's an abusive relationship. (A parallel would be that a paedophile's victim may often feel loved by their abuser but they are still being abused.)

And what about those times when belief in one con artist becomes before sensible medical advice? Especially when children - not able to make their own informed decisions are involved.

History is littered with charismatic conmen who have caused undeniable harm. Just go Google the Jonestown Massacre (918 dead in a single day), or 'Heaven's Gate' or 'Solar temple'.

I can't give any examples now but a quick read through the Strange Deaths column at the back of the Fortean Times will bring up any number of people who killed themselves and/or others believing really obviously woo crap.

Arguably because women have less agency in their lives and traditional ideas around female success or happiness are usually contingent on a man and/or children.

Yes, exactly this. And I'll admit, it does make me frustrated in part precisely because this kind of nonsense preys on a historic lack of female agency, and positions its female clientele as passive victims of a predestined Fate, as well as weak, credulous and Kinder, Kuche, Kirche-focused.

ElizabethMountbatten's story is horrible, and if anyone wants to see well-supported with court proceedings a version of the same thing which is even more morally disgusting, google Juliette D'Souza, the 'Hampstead Shaman'.

As well as conning a total of about £5 million out of gullible people, including claiming to be able to 'cure' a child with Down Syndrome, and staving off a client's terminal diagnosis, she took huge sums of money to 'help' a client with fertility difficulties get pregnant, then told her when she did that the baby was going to be born horribly deformed and that she needed to terminate this longed-for pregnancy. Which the poor, deluded client did.

Anyone who thinks that is harmless, or that D'Souza is a bad apple that reflects unfairly on all the 'genuine psychics' out there, should really engage their thinking gear.

Erratum: I meant to say 'love FOR their abuser'.

Anyone who thinks that is harmless, or that D'Souza is a bad apple that reflects unfairly on all the 'genuine psychics' out there, should really engage their thinking gear.

So if this is the case why aren't more prosecuted and why aren't more people reporting?
Of course this is a bad example and there might be more, but the majority don't act like this.
I've friends who go all the time and swear by it, they think Christianity is a crock of shit.

So if this is the case why aren't more prosecuted and why aren't more people reporting?

The difference in that case is that her clients were wealthy and well-connected, and could afford to take a legal case -- some of the newspaper accounts suggest there were far more scammed clients than the 11 who brought the case against her, but that the others were too embarrassed to come forward and admit how gullible they'd been.

Why doesn't someone like ElizabethMountbatten take a case against the woman who predicted her unborn baby's death and ruined her pregnancy and her MH? She may respond for herself, of course, but it's not clear from her post whether she paid this woman, and I'd be surprised if it was straightforward to track down some little old lady in a caravan on the pier and prosecute for -- what, mental distress?

In the D'Souza case there were millions of pounds of fraud involved -- in the case of the comparatively poor working-class women who make up the majority of those who flock to mediums/'psychics' etc, it's more likely to be a matter of individuals bleeding money they can ill afford into 'psychic hotlines', or endless visits to Madam Doris down the road at twenty quid a go for some indication that the dead aren't dead.

Well put, Forgiven. I wondered how long it would be before D'Souza was mentioned, and it's true that many of her clients appeared to be articulate, well educated and wealthy. Quite how they got so thoroughly sucked in defeats me, but at the risk of sounding unkind those adjectives aren't ones I'd use for my friend's spiritualist church pals, nor the group she meets up with to attend silly stage shows

And "harmless"? Hardly

There is a very good psychic l went too . I have been to see a few everything came true .... she asks no questions and just requires a simple Yes or no. Simone is her name google her .. Whalley range area . Let me know what you think

I think she's most probably a charlatan!

Well go and see . She most definitely is not . I’am 55 and not fooled easy .only one l have found that has real psychic abilities.

Don't believe mediums at all.

However, a few years ago I had an image flash in my brain where I was living in a completely different situation to the one I was currently in. It just came from nowhere and was very vivid. The various aspects of this image were so very unlikely to ever happen, so I thought nothing of it. It was just a nice picture, a snapshot of a very different life.

Every single part of that image has since come true and 5 years ago I was living that exact life.

Very strange, but just coincidence. Or I just made it happen. Not sure which.

I do believe that some know things that they couldn't possibly know.
I saw one who knew the nickname I had for someone, and other pieces of specific information. I can't explain it. It wasn't cold reading and I had just walked in off the street.
Another one told me the exact date I would have a baby...it was three years in the future and it was spot on. She also predicted the sex and part of his name.
She also told me about the theft of a tea set...I had no idea what she was talking about. Years later, in an unrelated conversation, my mum told me there had been the theft of a tea service at my grandad's wake!
No doubt people will be along to dismiss all this in a minute. I think it is a matter of personal belief.

It's a sign!

< runs away screaming >

I seen one. She told me my brothers name, my mums name, how mum died and what happened in the room when I found her, mum's brother and father's names, and specific things that had happened that no one could guess at in a million years.
I didn't buy a ticket to see her, I was late arriving. I don't do social media. I didn't give out any details except to say yes I have kids.

She didn't guess at the names, she said I have (mums name) here, I didn't confirm or deny, and she kept talking about mum. She also mentioned my neices name which is very unusual and her birthday.

There are definitely some things that can’t be explained l seen plenty of fakes in my time .. but the women l went to see told my some many things that have actually happened, names , and situations l was in ... as l said l’am not easily fooled ... has anyone else experienced a positive readings that actually stuff happened and where was the psychic from ??

Ssd where was your psychic from ? What area ??

I saw one about 10 years ago.
She did tell me some things that were accurate.
She told me my exh would bring a car home (he did but didn't drive)
One of my son's would need numerous hospital visits (he did)
I didn't need to worry about my dad's operation (I didn't even know he was having one)

She also told me I would have 5 dc. I'm only on 3 for now so time will tell.

Hi only 5 dc?? On your third ? Sorry what does that mean ?

Given that it is a fact that it is possible to use various tricks to convince someone that you have psychic powers, how can you be certain that your psychic isnt using these exact same tricks?

orangesun35, Glasgow.

There was no possible way she know that stuff. Hard to believe l know ... it does not make sense go your self . Then come and write on here it’s all tricks... .l told her nothing she asked nothing .. there are the odd ones out there that do know things that can’t be explained. Simple as