Believe what a medium has said?

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Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

Sweetlittlepug

If people are really psychic then why do they have posters advertising when the psychic fayres are taking place?

I think the idea is to let people know about it. They don’t expect the people coming to be psychic surely.

Sweet- that’s what I thought too

kissing totally, we must share an aura.

I think the idea is to let people know about it. They don’t expect the people coming to be psychic surely.

No. But when Kelvin McKenzie fired an astrologer from The Sun, he began his letter “As you will already know...”

Presumably astrologers, psychics, mediums and all the rest never have to produce CVs or apply for jobs - they just turn up to the job they know in advance they’ve got.

I think the idea is to let people know about it. They don’t expect the people coming to be psychic surely.

You take me too seriously. They don't need to expect the people coming to be psychic, they will know if they are or not.

If they had any principles or personal responsibility, they wouldn't be doing it at all. BECAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE. NONE OF IT. EVER!

Prove it's not true. Prove that there's no such thing a psychic abilities. You can't, in the same way that I can't prove that god or ghosts dont exist.

You'd believe in ghosts if you saw one, likewise you'd believe in premonitions/psychic abilities if you experienced them. Just because you havent experienced it doesn't mean it's not true.

You'd believe in ghosts if you saw one

Nope. I'd believe I was having an hallucination.

You can't always believe what you see, what you remember or what you hear.

There is no irrefutable evidence that psychic ability exists. No scientific study has proven any evidence of spirits/ghosts.

Believing that a living person can communicate with the dead is based on personal belief and faith alone.

If you believe, that's cool.

I believe science and fact. That's cool too.

Prove it's not true. Prove that there's no such thing a psychic abilities

Also, burden of proof doesn't work like that. And you're in the fun-packed rhealm of proving negatives.

EG;

I could say unicorns exist and you say they dont. I could then demand you prove that they don't. You can't prove unicorns don't exist, therefore I'm right.

Why would anyone need to prove that psychics are fake?

Saying psychic powers are real is like saying that Scotland is an island off Australia, or that chickens drive taxis. They’re all obviously untrue.

No-one needs to waste their time disproving ludicrous bollocks.

But polarpig But why is the fact they’re psychics mean they wouldn’t need to advertise it?

You'd believe in ghosts if you saw one

The thing is, no-one has ever seen a ghost, so that's not really a claim you can make.

You'd believe in ghosts if you saw one

This is where I get all conflicted. I do not believe that anyone is psychic - no way, not possible.

But I think I might have seen a ghost. The person who was with me at the time saw exactly the same thing. I got her to describe what she'd seen before I did, purely because I am so sceptical. She described EXACTLY what I had seen.

No-one needs to waste their time disproving ludicrous bollocks

More to the point it's not our job to

In the real world, if you make a claim it's up to you to prove it - however inconvenient it must be that no such proof has so far been possible

I’ve seen loads of things that if I was a different person I would think was a ghost.

I’ve seen a couple of mediums and they have told me things that it would be impossible for them to know. (I won’t go into details but really unusual aspects of my life.) This was before social media, so no background checks made on me. I also parked away from the mediums house and took all of my jewellery off.

I lost both my parents close together when I was quite young and seeing mediums did help me a little at the time. Since then I’ve actually had weird sensations that one of my parents spirit has been around me, a smell of perfume, a touch on my hair. I’ve had vivid dreams where I’ve met them and have been reassured.

So yes, there are charlatans out there, but equally there may be a few genuine mediums. It’s easy to judge people as stupid and delusional but maybe try to walk in someone else’s shoes. If it gives someone some peace and hope that there is a afterlife then who are you to judge? As time goes on you learn to accept loosing your loved ones but when you’re raw with grief you do whatever you can to keep you sane at the time.

More to the point it's not our job to

Sure, she who asserts must prove.

But some things are so stupid that they deserve ridicule - or in some cases perhaps, pity - rather than serious assessment.

A friend went through a psychic phase, spent a ridiculous amount of money on it. I used to go along sometimes to keep her company and saw a few for my own entertainment. Every single one I saw would tell me the same thing, that I had a brother. I don't, I have two sisters. One woman in particular would not let it go. Years later and we discover our dad had an affair towards the end of our parents marriage and fathered another kid, a boy (he didn't know for years and has no contact with him really, lives on the other side of the world). Lucky guess, all of them..........

No, but we supposedly have 'the gift' being traveller. It's a bit shite really and I don't 'use' it but uncanny things happen where I will think something about someone and they themselves come right out and say it later on. I usually don't say I had been thinking that although there was a harmless one the other day involving names where I did . Hair and makeup client mentioned an eight month old baby and I said 'does the name start with a Z' and it did :)

You'd believe in ghosts if you saw one

Wasn't it suggested not long ago that ghost sightings are a result of hearing particularly low frequency sounds and that's what causes the visual hallucination? Would explain why multiple people claim to see the apparition at the same time since they're all hearing the sound.

If it gives someone some peace and hope that there is a afterlife then who are you to judge? As time goes on you learn to accept loosing your loved ones but when you’re raw with grief you do whatever you can to keep you sane at the time.

And you don't think it's disgusting that people, whether genuinely deluded or conniving fraudsters, actually profit from people's grief and loss at a vulnerable time, and that the grieving clients become dependent on their reassurance?

The person who was with me at the time saw exactly the same thing. I got her to describe what she'd seen before I did, purely because I am so sceptical. She described EXACTLY what I had seen.

I've had the same thing with a friend, but there was a perfectly rational explanation -- we simply saw the same trick of the light, and movement in the mist moving across a road, at the same time. It was an astonishingly eerie-looking thing, but we just saw the same 'effect' (which strongly resembled a human figure) from the same angle at the same time, no more.

You'd believe in ghosts if you saw one

Isn't it funny how most people in the developed world have been carrying around a camera phone in their pocket for the bwst part of two decades and in all that time no one has captured an unambigous image or video footage of a ghost?

Lucky guess, all of them..........

I’d be impressed if the psychics you saw had each given you the name and address of your brother. But as they didn’t do that, and they’ll get lucky a few times after initially guessing wrong about a person’s known siblings, this story means nothing.

It's their wavelength,Funky -- they are too otherworldly for their atoms to be captured on a mobile.

Also, in fairness, if you left out all the times, on every Mn 'woo' thread, that the 'ghost story' was

(a) obviously bollocks (Tristan and Molly and the camping pods, which was obviously a beginning creative writer who hadn't considered the logistics of her plot)

(b) the hearsay ones that the OP wasn't present for, but which definitely happened to their sister's dogwalker's mother's milkman's manager

(c) the ones that happened when the OP was a young child, or that involve young children talking about imaginary friends, being scared by a nightmare, something seen on TV, a story etc

(d) the ones that happen when the OP is falling asleep or half-awake, including all the ones that are obviously sleep paralysis/hypnogogic or hypnopompic hallucination

(e) the ones that involve the OP spooking themselves because they are alone in a new house whose ordinary night sounds they aren't familiar with, or alone in a distant storeroom/basement etc at work

(f) the ones that involve the OP desperately wanting to believe that their dead relative is sending them feathers or robins or causing certain songs to be played on the radio or missing objects to reappear

(g) the ones where the 'haunting' is fairly obviously a matter of malfunctioning electrics/draughts/creaky old floors

(h) the ones where the OP has been primed to see a ghost, because it's a famously haunted building where the ghost of Anne Boleyn runs screaming for her life down the gallery, or a workplace where all the employees talk about their spooky experiences on corridor X

(i) the ones where the OP misinterprets something well-known as a haunting, like the Mn thread where someone swore she'd seen a vision of silent horsemen in oldfashioned uniforms charging down Oxford St, only for several posters to point out that the Household Cavalry regularly bring their horses along there early in the morning on their way from exercising in Hyde Park.

-- there's not a lot left!

I've had the same thing with a friend, but there was a perfectly rational explanation -- we simply saw the same trick of the light, and movement in the mist moving across a road, at the same time. It was an astonishingly eerie-looking thing, but we just saw the same 'effect' (which strongly resembled a human figure) from the same angle at the same time, no more.

But you obviously wanted to believe it was a trick of the light because you didn’t want to accept the alternative. You can’t know for sure, just because you want to believe something doesn’t make it so. You could have both just seen a ghost.

I love the idea of old cavalrymen riding up and down Oxford Street looking for Bourne & Hollingsworth.

You would only look for a supernatural explanation, surely, if no obvious rational explanation proffered itself for two people seeing something odd at the same time -- and it did, in our case.

Mist was snaking across a hedgeless road between very flat arable fields (studded with rather sinister scarecrows ) in weirdly concrete-looking shapes as it was getting dark.

I assume it had something to do with weather conditions combined with local geography -- it was our first evening heading out to a village through country neither of us knew at all for an art class, and we saw something similar on at least one or two other occasions later on in the course, though never quite as striking.