Believe what a medium has said?

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Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

Someone did just that years ago. I remember reading about it. Apparently this person had a dream of the winning numbers. She wrote them down and bought a ticket. She won a few million. I suppose this person would never have thought of herself as psychic but she definitely had a psychic moment. This is the kind of thing I believe can happen, not people who claim to be psychic and make money out of the gullible. But there are people like that as have been described on here

Oh ffs! Millions of people have dreams about lotto numbers, and buy the ticket. I know I have, just for a laugh. I didn't win. Millions of people who do this won't win. But the law of probability tells us that eventually, because millions of people have done it, someone will have a dream about lotto numbers, and coincidentally, they will be the next set of winning numbers.

That's not psychic powers, that's basic maths. Honestly Sweetlittlepug, your critical thinking skills are completely non existent.

Isn't it funny how most people in the developed world have been carrying around a camera phone in their pocket for the best part of two decades and in all that time no one has captured an unambigous image or video footage of a ghost?

Not to mention CCTV. There are millions of CCTV cameras all over the world running 24/7. Not a fucking sniff of a ghost or any supernatural activity. No chairs flying thru the air, or objects mysteriously moving...nothing at all.

You'd believe in ghosts if you saw one

No I wouldn't. Because I have critical thinking skills. I'd think I had a brain tumour causing me to hallucinate before I thought it was a ghost. The reason for that is that brain tumours exist, and ghosts don't.

Sorry, my last was to sweetlittlepug.

And honestly, I'd be fascinated to encounter something that I could find absolutely no explanation other than the supernatural for -- I'd be more interested than anything. Because it would be so interesting.

But in my forty plus years of a reasonably adventurous life, which has included living alone in very remote places (including an otherwise uninhabited island) and in a very old family house in which many people have died and where there is a local 'tradition' of a particularly nasty ghost, a mother who murdered her children, in another ruined house close by I've even spent a fair bit of time walking in Savernake Forest, as some friends of mine used to live there! and sleeping in places where unpleasant deaths have happened in the recent past, I've never encountered anything that wasn't explicable without reference to the supernatural.

I'm a total skeptic although I do like the idea of fairies and unicorns.

For a laugh I went to see a palm reader about 20 years ago.

It was uncanny what he seemed to know about me, again pre-social media. And not just about reading my personality, but what my previous experience had been. Put it down to him being canny in some way but wrote the "future" shit down for future reference and promptly forgot all about it. Found the note recently and was interested that quite a bit of it is simply the barnham effect, but he did say about 5 very specific things, which I think were unique to my life experience and which did come true.

In spite of this is still think psychics are bollocks. I just met an entertaining fella who made some bloody good guesses...

And funny how ghosts seems to prefer to come back from before living memory - the archetype of a Victorian murder victim or a headless Elizabethan - in dark old buildings.

Never a lady who lived up the road coming back to say hello in the local Chinese restaurant. Not so theatrical I guess.

And funny how ghosts seems to prefer to come back from before living memory - the archetype of a Victorian murder victim or a headless Elizabethan - in dark old buildings.

Indeed. And where are all the Neanderthal ghosts, Roman ghosts, ghosts, Viking ghosts, and from all the other eras that somehow never produce them?

And why creepy old buildings where someone had died. Why not the local NHS hospital. 1000s of people have died there, the place should be crawling with ghosts.

Someone did just that years ago. I remember reading about it. Apparently this person had a dream of the winning numbers. She wrote them down and bought a ticket. She won a few million. I suppose this person would never have thought of herself as psychic but she definitely had a psychic moment. This is the kind of thing I believe can happen, not people who claim to be psychic and make money out of the gullible. But there are people like that as have been described on here.

But you didn't read about the thousands of people who dreamed they had the winning numbers, bought a ticket... and won jack shit.

“And honestly, I'd be fascinated to encounter something that I could find absolutely no explanation other than the supernatural for -- I'd be more interested than anything. Because it would be so interesting.“

Me too. I’d love it. When I got over the abject terror, obviously.

It's their wavelength,Funky -- they are too otherworldly for their atoms to be captured on a mobile. grin

I was surprised how wide a spectrum a mobile phone can see. The other day the remote for the TV wasn't working, to my bafflement, my daughter 'checked the battery power' by pointing her mobile phone camera at its business end and pressing a button on the handset. The infrared flashes were clearly visible. The camera converting them down to the visible spectrum.

Mobile phone cameras would, I suggest, be MORE likely to see spooky shit than the human eye.

Not to mention CCTV. There are millions of CCTV cameras all over the world running 24/7. Not a fucking sniff of a ghost or any supernatural activity.

But how do you prove that? Do you have access to the millions of cctv cameras all over the world?

But how do you prove that? Do you have access to the millions of cctv cameras all over the world?

Somebody does. And it’s a bit unlikely - to say the least - that genuine images of wandering ghosts wouldn’t have come to light. (No, I don’t consider fake Edwardian photos of fairies, photoshopped pictures of giant skeletons or prank videos on YouTube to be evidence of ghosts or mythical creatures.)

There is that CCTV footage of the slamming red door. Closely follows by interesting UTube videos of the mechanism that made it slam......

Today 11:37 KissingInTheRain

But how do you prove that? Do you have access to the millions of cctv cameras all over the world?

Somebody does.

^But not the same ‘somebody’. Again, we’re all just surmising and making suggestions here, whatever we believe.

I’m neither a sceptic or highly suggestible (if at all) but it seems to me that the sceptics on this thread are considerably angrier - and actually more invested in the topic - than anyone else. ^

To all the people who genuinely believe that a medium/psychic predicted the future for them and got it right: Does that mean there is no free will?

If they saw your future, and it came true, it means that:

1. The future is set in stone, it will already happen that way no matter what you do
2. The future is already happening somewhere, like a tape that can be fast forwarded, right to the end of time

Also

Ones like 'he said my car was damaged, and I took it to the garage and it was'

Say no-one in the world knows that your car is damaged, as no-one has visually checked. How do they know that? Did they swoop through time and space and inspect your car themselves? Is there a mystic book of cars somewhere which they mentally leafed through until they came across theirs? I don't see how that information came to them - I get how someone could read your mind if psychic powers did exist, or could speak to the dead, but a car is just a machine

...it seems to me that the sceptics on this thread are considerably angrier - and actually more invested in the topic - than anyone else.

Angrier? No. Nobody of any point of view on this thread seems even slightly angry.

More invested? Doubtful, but if that’s so it’s because opposing nonsense is more important than spreading it.

Within a couple of weeks of my mum's passing, my son said he saw her. I believe him because I asked him if she was transparent, looked scary etc. He looked at ne strangely and said no, she just looked like her normal self and she was smiling at him. The clincher for me was when he told me where he saw her - in the corner of the school canteen. My son didn't know this but for years my mum helped out in the school canteen when she wasn't working and we were all in primary school. It's something she remembered fondly.

There was another 'woo' incident concerning her and my son before her death. It was around Halloween time and I had been reading Irish folktales to him. One morning my son woke up and said 'Mum, mum I heard a banshee. it was screaming!' I out that down to the stories I has been reading him and didn't think too much of it. literally five minutes later I received a call from my brother who said the doctors told them there was nothing more that they could. do for my mum (her transplant had failed a few months before and they'd been trying various treatments) and we should come and say our goodbyes. Granted, my mum died eleven days later but I thought the coincidence between my son saying he heard a banshee and the 'final moments' ohone call 5 minutes later very strange.

Another strange thing was that when she went into her last hospital room there was a jacarandah tree in near full bloom just outside her window. Over the course of the next eleven days it was losing it's flowers and in the day before she died, there were just a few flowers here and there. The next morning (she died in the night) there was not a single flower left and the branches were completely bare (they flower before they leaf up). That was also odd.

Today 12:22 KissingInTheRain

...it seems to me that the sceptics on this thread are considerably angrier - and actually more invested in the topic - than anyone else.

Angrier? No. Nobody of any point of view on this thread seems even slightly angry.

I think they do - but again, it’s just a matter of opinion. Interesting subject to debate for a while, but not worth arguing every little point over imho. I’m off

Angrier? No. Nobody of any point of view on this thread seems even slightly angry.

I agree, no one seems angry in the slightest.

It's not anger, but frustration. Frustration at the complete lack of critical thinking on display.

"Someone had a dream about the winning numbers, bought a ticket and they won. They have psychic powers"

Completely forgetting about those millions of people who have dreamt about numbers that didn't win. If the odds of winning are 50m to 1, if enough people buy tickets after a dream, someone will eventually win.

I think all this stuff is very harmful, and to women in particular, as it seems to me it's women who tend to be far more invested in this tosh than men. The audience for these psychic shows is 90% female.

In my office, men discussing everyday normal whilst women discuss their horoscope and psychics. It does do women any favours in being taken seriously.

I think all this stuff is very harmful, and to women in particular, as it seems to me it's women who tend to be far more invested in this tosh than men. The audience for these psychic shows is 90% female,

Arguably because women have less agency in theor lives and traditional ideas around female success or happiness are usually contingent on a man and/or children.

The first one declared she was a medium and I, early twenties at the time, told her I'd been struggling to conceive and was on fertility medication. I asked her if I would have any children. She looked at me gravely and said "one living child. But you'll have a miscarriage before you have a birth." I fell pregnant two months after that and spent the first 28 weeks of my pregnancy in agonised fear of anything that could cause me to lose my baby. Sobbing every day, begging to be allowed to keep this little child of mine and not have it die and be lost to me. She's 12 and that woman is a vile piece of shit who effectively ruined what should have been a very happy time for me.

Waiting for the "it's all harmless fun" brigade to respond.

My nana used to live in a haunted house. It was a huge old lodging house, where she used to take in men working in the area for short stays. Quite a few of them, including two of my uncles who stayed there for a while had seen the same woman. Known to all us children, (siblings and cousins) as the woman in white. She appeared every now and again, but only to the men, never to my nana or aunts.

it's all harmless you don't have to be involved if you don't want to.
Some people believe and others don't. Some people believe they have psychic gifts, others don't.
There are lots of women who don't believe and just because it appeals more to women doesn't mean that women are at harm.

Litecraft I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. Can I ask why you went in the first place, were you a believer and now you're not?