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To feel sad for this teacher?

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Beargrin · 02/04/2019 15:10

This teacher was sacked because one of her pupils saw a topless picture of her. She sent the picture to her partner two years ago and somehow the pupil got it. It seems so unfair that her whole career has been ruined. Surely lots of reputable women have taken nudes, someone should have been punished but I don't feel like it should be her.

Reading the comments on social media is so sad. People calling her a 'slag' and even a pedophile.

Link: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/04/01/teacher-claims-she-was-fired-over-nude-selfie-to-boyfriend/amp/

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ThreeAnkleBiters · 02/04/2019 15:12

I agree that's ridiculous. The person who sent the student the image should be in trouble not the teacher. It's not even a particularly sexual/porn esque photo - just captures the kind of intimate moment you might share with a partner. We can't police every moment of teacher's lives - she's done nothing even remotely illegal.

bridgetreilly · 02/04/2019 15:13

Yes, it's ridiculous. However, she in the US, so I am utterly unsurprised because (a) the expectations on the private lives of teachers there are very stringent and (b) employment law makes it much easier to fire someone.

AverageMan · 02/04/2019 15:16

I think once sexual images of a teacher get into the hands of pupils, then his/her position becomes untenable.

EstrellaDamn · 02/04/2019 15:18

Why though? It would be forgotten in a few weeks' time. I don't think a person's career should be over because of a photo of a body part.

Beargrin · 02/04/2019 15:41

@AverageMan but why? It's absolutely not her fault. Surely the school should be teaching the students to respect her / women better than that.
You hear all these stories of young men in schools sharing around pictures of under age girls. Surely the school should be teaching them this behaviour is unacceptable not that it's the women's fault for having taken the photo?

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AverageMan · 02/04/2019 15:48

It would be difficult for a school to discourage children from taking and distributing nude selfies when they have a teacher who has done exactly that.

Cjt110 · 02/04/2019 15:53

I'd be more concerned about the teachers we used to see in the local pub on a Tuesday night sharing 3 bottles of wine between them (2 of them) than Mrs Boobs Out.

Beargrin · 02/04/2019 15:55

But she didn't distribute it, that's kind of the point. She was violated and I believe the school should be teaching the pupils exactly that.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 02/04/2019 15:55

Ooh teachers aren't allowed private lives. How dare you suggest such a thing. Their lives start and end with work, don't you know.!!!

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/04/2019 15:56

It would be difficult for a school to discourage children from taking and distributing nude selfies when they have a teacher who has done exactly that.

A) it wasn't nude it was topless and I'm sure as a man you can see the sexist double standard there...

B) I teach teenagers and frequently discuss what things are fine for adults to do but not for them. Because they aren't adults. If a pregnant teacher turns up should she be sacked in case children decide to get pregnant?

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 02/04/2019 15:57

Could she maybe get them done under the human rights act. I have the right to a life and a private life.

bridgetreilly · 02/04/2019 15:59

Could she maybe get them done under the human rights act. I have the right to a life and a private life.

No, BECAUSE SHE'S IN AMERICA.

SachaStark · 02/04/2019 15:59

It's not your business to be concerned about anything like that either, to be fair, Cjt110. It is not reasonable to expect to be able to control or comment on the private lives of your children's teachers when it has nothing to do with their job.

Vulpine · 02/04/2019 16:01

Maybe it's a good idea not to send naked pics of yourself to anyone especially if you are a teacher. Just why? Hmm

eddiemairswife · 02/04/2019 16:03

It may be my age, but I am mystified as to why people post nude photos of themselves.

RomanyQueen1 · 02/04/2019 16:03

The first thing we were told when studying for PGCE if this happened it was our fault.
Tbh, most of us came off it and many stayed off once qualified.
I'm back on and have been since stopping teaching.
It's a shame but we all know the consequences.

Vulpine · 02/04/2019 16:05

Cant she just show her partner her breasts in real life rather than posting them into cyberspace

Sux2buthen · 02/04/2019 16:06

Ah, victim blaming. Lovely.

Vulpine · 02/04/2019 16:06

So no I don't feel sad for the teacher. She's an idiot

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/04/2019 16:07

Why do people keep saying 'naked' and 'nude'? It was topless. Perfectly normal beach picture in Spain or France. Totally boring. This is part of a larger issue what women's bodies are policed and sexual and shameful in a way that men's aren't.

AverageMan · 02/04/2019 16:07

She is not wearing any clothes, which is the definition of nude. She just had a towel covering her nether regions. She sent the pic to get boyf, which is distribution. If it was one of her pupils following her example they would be looking at serious charges. And had it been a male teacher with a dick pic I doubt they would be getting as much sympathy.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/04/2019 16:08

www.good.is/articles/shirtless-shamers-shut-down

marvellousnightforamooncup · 02/04/2019 16:09

At my school one of the female teachers posed nude with a sixth form boy for a sexual massage book. Not exactly ideal but she didn't immediately lose her job. I think she was still there when I left. She was in a relationship with the boy at the time. Shock No internet in those days so hard copies were distributed round the staff room to much sniggering I hear.

PatchworkGirl · 02/04/2019 16:10

This is genuinely one of the reasons I didn't pursue teaching after qualifying. I don't think there are any nude photos of me 'out there' but the idea of having to police my life to this extent for a job was not something I could sign up to...

Poor woman.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/04/2019 16:10

If it was one of her pupils following her example they would be looking at serious charges.

Because they are children.

And had it been a male teacher with a dick pic I doubt they would be getting as much sympathy.

Because dicks aren't breasts. If she had posted a full nude, that might be different.

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