To feel sad for this teacher?

[Beargrin]

This teacher was sacked because one of her pupils saw a topless picture of her. She sent the picture to her partner two years ago and somehow the pupil got it. It seems so unfair that her whole career has been ruined. Surely lots of reputable women have taken nudes, someone should have been punished but I don't feel like it should be her.

Reading the comments on social media is so sad. People calling her a 'slag' and even a pedophile.

Link: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/04/01/teacher-claims-she-was-fired-over-nude-selfie-to-boyfriend/amp/

If a married teacher is pregnant, that is entirely reasonable behaviour. If a teacher has smutty pics floating around school, that is unreasonable behaviour. How difficult is it to not take selfies with your clothes off?

Apologies @Cjt110 - I've had a day of battling year 9 so you might guess what I'm going to be doing tonight!

@AverageMan, only a married teacher?! What era are you living in? The 1950s?!

But both acts were private acts between a couple. Sins teacher might like to film it. If her partner / ex distributes it it isn't her fault and I wouldn't judge her for filming it. I would think my child would suddenly start filming sex and sending it in to people either.

"Mom mom, Mrs P had her boobs out on the internet" is an opportunity to talk about how it's illegal to take and send them at their age, how sending them on without the owners permission is illegal at any age etc. Not to get the pitchforks out because you think it'll make your child want to do it too

Ridiculous. Her personal life should not be scrutinised like this.

Re the married teacher, I was using the analogy of the previous post. It wouldn't bother me that much if a female teacher fell pregnant outside marriage.

Clearly double standards and certainly not unreasonable to feel sad and angry for her. Everyone who's said that a shirtless man who sent a photo to a partner wouldn't have caused a batted eyelid - spot on.

Bloody hell, perhaps I'd better rethink my plans to get TA work in a secondary school. There must be shitloads of breastfeeding photos of me that have 'escaped' out there. Not to mention the odd political post on a public forum. Heaven forfend that someone involved in teaching have other interests or, indeed, a life.

Smutty?the 1950s are calling for you MrAverage, how very puritanical of you
Number of issues here
Her private picture distributed without consent by an ex
The pupils actions and subsequent redistribution
In USA it can be very prurient and teachers are expected to maintain a wholesome lifestyle

This is an American news article - and I don't think its an over exaggeration that the majority of Americans tend to be somewhat more fervently religious than our selves. God fearing folks, culturally different to ourselves. Lets face it, they shoot people for being the wrong colour. nipples will make them have a break down.

Why do people keep saying 'naked' and 'nude'? It was topless. Perfectly normal beach picture in Spain or France

Absolutely true - but this is in the USA, and IME many Americans have a very different attitude to "nudity" than that found in europe. Try sunbathing topless on a public beach and this will soon become only too obvious

I don't agree with what's been done to this teacher, but it reminds me horribly of my headteacher exH, who was very careful what he showed in the Virgin gym's showers. When asked why, it turned out he was worried in case a pupil was in there, and went home shouting "Mummy, I've seen Mr Puzzled's willy!!!"

Sadly, that really can be all it takes ...

There have been a couple of cases of teachers being sacked because parents saw online photos of them holding alcoholic drinks. In one case I believe the teacher was simply holding an opaque plastic cup that could reasonably be assumed to contain alcohol. So if they can be sacked for holding drinks then I’m not surprised they can be sacked for topless photos.

It would be difficult for a school to discourage children from taking and distributing nude selfies when they have a teacher who has done exactly that.

Absolute rubbish. By that logic no teacher should drink either.

There have been a couple of cases of teachers being sacked because parents saw online photos of them holding alcoholic drinks.

There must be more to it than just a photo.

There have been a couple of cases of teachers being sacked because parents saw online photos of them holding alcoholic drinks.

And we wonder why it's difficult to recruit?

In the UK she would be suitably protected as this would be classed as revenge porn. What a disgusting thing to do to this poor woman.

@AverageMan, so it would bother you a bit then?

" Yes of course it's never sensible to send naked pics of yourself but it happens."

It doesn't happen though does it?

I'm doubt that I'm in the minority here when I say that I've never taken a topless selfie, never mind sent one.

Our kids are in a Catholic school, so yes, it wouldn't go unnoticed if an unmarried teacher was pregnant.

Catholic school where craggy island?i went to catholic school we had unmarried teachers who were pg
Come to think of it,we had unmarried pupils got pregnant too
A minority of parents were tutty about the unmarried pg teachers,there’s always one...

I've just heard of a teacher that was 'sacked' (asked to leave as 'position untenable') for a naked photo. He was drying himself at the gym (a private gym, not school - one he pays £60 a month for) and had no idea he was photographed by a pupil.

There are multiple issues here though.

I don’t agree with the teacher being sacked as a result of the picture entering the public domain, but suggesting that sending a sexualised picture of yourself to anyone is a spectacularly bad idea is not victim blaming it’s common sense. Reality is that once you hit send on that picture you lose all control of what happens to it, even if you’ve sent it to a partner, because if the relationship breaks down there is know knowing what will happen to it.

And a topless picture of a woman is different to a topless picture of a man. Let’s be honest here she didn’t send it to him just because, it was to provoke him sexually in ways which a topless picture of a man wouldn’t provoke a woman. If it had e.g.been a breastfeeding picture or similar that would have been different, but then he wouldn’t have had the will to distribute it either.

My ex took topless pictures of me without my knowledge and kept them until we got divorced. I’m sure he didn’t take them just because, esp given he didn’t tell me of their existence until such times as he chose to let me know just how much control he had over me.

The one in the wrong is the man for distributing the picture and she absolutely shouldn’t have lost her job over it. But it’s a valid lesson in why taking naked or half naked pictures of yourself and sending them to anyone is unwise.

To be honest if it was found my child's teacher had sent a naked photo to their partner/husband and someone got hold of it I'd feel empathy for her and be disgusted with whoever distributed it.

Of course if she sent it to a student then she should be stripped of her title and prosecuted to boot but can't anyone have a private life?!

It doesn't effect her ability to teach so can't see the issue!

If a married teacher is pregnant, that is entirely reasonable behaviour. If a teacher has smutty pics floating around school, that is unreasonable behaviour. How difficult is it to not take selfies with your clothes off?

Yeah, sack unmarried teachers who get pregnant. What a terrible example such women set. Never mind the male teachers with 6 children with 6 different women, which everyone knows and gossips about, it’s just the female, pregnant unmarried teachers that cause problems and influence the young people they work with..

Because I have an absolute right to live the same life as anyone else. If pictures taken by/for a partner or an ex are distributed publically he should carry the consequences of that, not me. Taking my clothes of in a place where that is allowed (nudist beach, for example)or as part of a consenting, adult behaviour is my right, as is my right not to have those pictures distributed without my express permission. Anything else is saying ‘it’s her fault she got raped ‘cos she sat on a bar in a short skirt and drank one vodka too many.

Jesus fucking wept.

but diddl it was a private event between two people. It wasn't intended to be shared.

I am fairly old now but I have actually taken topless photos of myself and I have shared with my husband (when we were married!). I would be mortified if he had distributed them but it was a private event between 2 people and I imagine that's what she intended too.

Of course with hindsight it's not particularly sensible given the internet etc. but to lose your job? I think that's too much. It's not like she was publishing her photos or appearing in a magazine/film topless!

I'm doubt that I'm in the minority here when I say that I've never taken a topless selfie, never mind sent one.

So? I've never been skiing and never want to go. Doesn't mean I have a right to tell other people not to do it. Teachers are entitled to a personal life and a sex life.