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To think this could be the end of brexit as mps take control of the process from the PM

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quittinaeete · 25/03/2019 22:41

Theresa may now really cant go for a hard brexit, anyone else think it's brexit cancelled?

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3dogs2cats · 25/03/2019 23:30

So did Americandreams post not mak e you a tiny bit ashamed to be on the leave side?

Acis · 25/03/2019 23:31

We also were going to die when the millennium bug hit in 2000 but that never happened did it.

With the millennium bug, we knew exactly what we were dealing with years before the millennium, we knew how to fix it, and lots and lots of planning and hard work went into fixing it.

With Brexit, we still have no idea whatsoever what we would be dealing with if Brexit happened, only four days before the original planned leave date; we therefore have no idea what we need to do to make it even vaguely workable; and we haven't been able to do any hard work or planning because we have no idea what we might be working or planning for.

I hope that explains why the Millennium But analogy just doesn't work?

pepinana · 25/03/2019 23:31

Has the government said that in the event of leaving that is 100 percent going to happen?

No they haven't but why would I want to risk it? What do you think is wrong with the laws we get from the EU? How have they disadvantaged you?

Lockheart · 25/03/2019 23:32

This IS democracy in action. This is the parliamentary sovereignty that the Leave campaign was so fond of banging the drum for. You might not like it but this is what it looks like.

Democracy in the UK is NOT the same as majority rule. We have a parliamentary or representative democracy, where we elect MPs who we think will best represent our constituency. Those MPs then act as they please in parliament. If we don't like it, we vote them out at the next election.

It's not the same as the polls said X so X is what will happen. That is not how our parliamentary democracy works.

MPs won't be overturning democracy if they cancel Brexit, they'll be enacting it (as indeed they would if they went for No Deal) because they ARE the democracy in this country.

Costacoffeeplease · 25/03/2019 23:32

recrudescence

GrinGrinGrin to infinity

Peanut1983 · 25/03/2019 23:32

Sorry everything I read said maternity rights are unchanged in the event of no deal. Can you see why this is confusing now?

AnyFucker · 25/03/2019 23:32

I seriously worry how much some people do not understand how easily our employment, disability, maternity, cultural, sex-based etc rights can be taken away. And how there are folks waiting in the wings to do just that. Looking at you, Mogg.

PortiaCastis · 25/03/2019 23:33

Oh bleddy hell am I supposed to quake in my boots? Well they told me that on Friday but alas they were wrong

www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/a30-brexit-protest-stopped-after-2677472

Vast swathes turned out to be about 13 cars 3 of which were police cars

Peanut1983 · 25/03/2019 23:33

So now maternity rights loss is just a risk? How big is the risk?

trytobenicedear · 25/03/2019 23:33

Peanut

In 2017 the UK made an estimated gross contribution (after the rebate) of £13.0 billion. The UK received £4.1 billion of public sector receipts from the EU, so the UK’s net public sector contribution to the EU was an estimated £8.9 billion.

UK's net contribution to the EU

There are different ways to measure the funds the UK receives from the EU. The above figure of £4.1 billion includes only funding allocated to UK government to manage. However, the European Commission also allocates funding directly to UK organisations, often following a competitive process. In recent years these funds have been worth around £1 billion - £1.5 billion to the UK. Accounting for these receipts results in the UK making an average net contribution of £8.5 billion between 2011 and 2015.

trytobenicedear · 25/03/2019 23:34

Source: researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7886

Costacoffeeplease · 25/03/2019 23:34

@americandream lending weight to my argument for minimum IQ testing before people are allowed to vote

👍

Acis · 25/03/2019 23:34

Can't we make our own rules regarding employment laws and the environment? They seem like easier things to fix

We do already, we always have done. I don't understand why, you, Peanut, as a scientist, don't know that.

EdWinchester · 25/03/2019 23:34

americandream

You are not exactly helping to dispel the image many remain voters have of the opposition with your lunatic hyperbole. You’re just reinforcing the idiot stereotype.

You need to calm down a tad.

TheFaerieQueene · 25/03/2019 23:35

I think there will be street parties not a civil war (🤣) if brexit is dust!

pepinana · 25/03/2019 23:35

Why take the risk at all peanut? For what purpose? What's to gain?

Peanut1983 · 25/03/2019 23:36

Maybe the government might make better maternity rights without the eu telling them what to do? That surely is a "risk" too

Magenta82 · 25/03/2019 23:36

I'm ok with leavers who threaten to "never vote again" I wish more of them would follow through on that.

goldengummybear · 25/03/2019 23:36

What about the Irish border question? It's a fact that no border promotes peace.

trytobenicedear · 25/03/2019 23:36

I seriously worry how much some people do not understand how easily our employment, disability, maternity, cultural, sex-based etc rights can be taken away. And how there are folks waiting in the wings to do just that. Looking at you, Mogg.

This. A thousand times, this.

AnyFucker · 25/03/2019 23:37

You really believe that, Peanut ?

DrVonPatak · 25/03/2019 23:37

@Americandream

You seriously remind me of Rasputin in Anastasia cartoon 🤣🤣🤣

PinkieTuscadero · 25/03/2019 23:37

Many Brexiters dream of Brexit Britain being similar to Singapore: Low tax, low public spending, low regulations. Great for the wealthy. Not so great for the ordinary working people.

Acis · 25/03/2019 23:37

To add to AnyFucker's list, the people who voted leave in my family have since succumbed to dementia. So they won't be out on the streets rioting.

pepinana · 25/03/2019 23:38

Maybe the government might make better maternity rights without the eu telling them what to do?

You think a tory government is going to give us better maternity rights. OK. On what basis? Their excellent track record on helping the most vulnerable in society?