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AIBU to be completely fed up with this crazy woman and her DD

139 replies

RedRose3 · 21/03/2019 13:09

Hi all,
Long story. I met a woman at my daughter's school open day. We got talking and then became "friends". It was more of convenience friendship for both of us. Our kids did many activities together and we shared pickups and drop offs. She moved her daughter to a prep school in Year1 for grammar school focus and has absolutely nagged me to death several times to move my DD - going on and on about now lovely the new school is. It felt quite premature at that point to send my DD to a hot housing school without knowing her true potential. We loved our state school so we continued there. We still did some activities together. I heard a lot of criticism about "state school kids" from her over the years but I chose to ignore it.. Another big problem with this woman is her attitude. Whatever she touches is gold. Her kids are best, her profession is the best, her house is the best. She is VERY dismissive about others choices. (For example: DD is sporty - She made comments several times to say sports are useless). I find it very annoying. We slowly distanced ourselves from them and did our own thing

Fast forward to Year5, 11 plus preps in full swing. Her DD went to numerous tutors. We tried some tutors and settled with a tutor who had a calmer approach. This "friend" at this point was after my life for "collaboration". She wanted to know what we were doing. I told her our plans and strategy. I told her about our target schools and why we think they were suitable for our DD. She said she gathered some resources from another parent from school and would share them with me. I asked twice but I got shitty excuses (lost them, cant find them etc). So, the collaboration was all about getting info from me but not sharing anything. Through out 11plus prep time, whenever and whereever we met, her DD had only competitive questions for my DD. How much did you get in that paper? What level are you at swimming? What level in Piano? This woman also went behind my back and checked with common friends what I was upto.

Many many times I felt like asking this woman to shut up and get lost. I just kept distance and ignored. DD got into a local grammar and guess what, her DD will be going there too :( This woman started calling me again. COLLABORATION shit. How our grammar is the best, the other grammar is just crap (its a brill school , I know children who are happy there - it just didnt feel right for my DD). I spoke nicely, but I just hate her now. Last week my DD met her DD at a park. (I wasnt there, she went there for a play date after school with another child and her mum). and guess what, the ONLY things her DD asked mine were "What was your 11plus score, what level at swimming and whats level at piano. What other activites are you doing and what levels". DD is fed up and felt quit. I am going mad. I cant put up with this shit all through school now.

Anyone met insanely competitive and selfish people like this woman? How to ignore her? We aren't competitive , we don't push our kids. (Some people do, we respect their choice - we all do whats best for our kids) We just encourage our children to do their best. DD is terrified of having this girl in her class. Its not the child's fault, she was raised that way, but the whole thing is a BIG PITA long term. I hate confrontations, but one more shit talk, i might smack her.

OP posts:
commentson · 21/03/2019 14:40

You both had tutors for 11plus? Is that the same as SATS?

NCforthis2019 · 21/03/2019 14:42

We have that now - and our child is just turning 5. It’s sneaky isn’t it, some of them lie as well!! We keep ourselves to ourselves and I really only have 1/2 mums I consistently talk to, the rest who ask what bloody biff chip and kipper level my child is on gets a ‘not sure - husband does reading with her as I work full time - ask him if you like’ - strange no one has asked yet...

IHateUncleJamie · 21/03/2019 14:43

Why would you give this woman so much airtime? Especially when she is so rude about your life and your daughter? You need to teach your daughter to say things like "why on earth do you want to know that?" "I am really happy with my score" "I don't really remember" and to change the subject.

^^ This, and/or “Why?” are all your dd needs to keep repeating. I encountered a few parents like this in the ballet world. Batshit. I couldn’t exactly block the ones I saw weekly but used to nod and smile a lot and give out no info about where dd was auditioning and so on.

Just block this ridiculous woman, stop enabling her and give your dd strategies on how to change the subject.

LazyLizzy · 21/03/2019 14:52

Just smile and change the subject, every time. She will have to give up if you don't give her any answers.

You and DD really need to stop answering to her and her child.

Your DD is currently learning from you how to be a walkover.

Luella29 · 21/03/2019 14:53

Just step away from her. There's only a competition of more than one of you is competing you see. The joy of secondary school is you don't need to deal with this crap. Your DD will find her own friends and you can just not see the mother. Sorted.

clairefrasier · 21/03/2019 14:54

She briefly considered sending her child to a private secondary.. Those few months were full on mud slinging at parents who chose grammars. Her words "they just care about money. Our daughters education is more important to us than saving money. We want the best for our kids".

It sounds like she didn't really think her DD would get in to a grammar school, and was setting up her reasons for putting into private secondary in advance.

OP, I feel for you. I have witnessed alot of competitive parenting recently and some really irritating comments from various people, so I just avoid these people like the plague. I don't care anymore if they think i'm being rude/aloof. They need to learn how not to be annoying !

clairefrasier · 21/03/2019 14:59

I meant to say, stop answering her calls. If she speaks to you just keep it to the brief minimum. Make and excuse and leave if you can. e.g. i've got an appointment/meeting/got to phone the dentist etc. Don't worry about looking impolite.

burgundyjumper · 21/03/2019 14:59

I encountered a few parents like this in the ballet world
Me too Grin

IHateUncleJamie · 21/03/2019 15:03

@burgundyjumper Grin To be fair, dd and I also made some wonderful, lifelong friends from ballet. There were a fair few absolute HORRORS though!

Woventabby · 21/03/2019 15:16

I would consistently keep her at arm's length. If she keeps on asking questions, I would tell her that my DD has come to the age that she hates me talking things about her to other people, so I agreed with her that I should respect that.

floribunda18 · 21/03/2019 15:17

Is that the same as SATS?

No.

RedRose3 · 21/03/2019 15:50

you are right about my DD learning from me. We had a chat on our way back from school today - about boundaries.

Hope she doesn't turn out like me :(

I cant believe I put up with this shit this long TBH. 6 years is a long time and I saw her atleast once a week when we dropped off our DDs at an activity. I sent DH many times only because I wanted to avoid her. I am mad at myself for not sorting this out sooner. I just dont know why I never asked her to FO.

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FriarTuck · 21/03/2019 16:32

Just exaggerate everything - she scored 100% in every test, has achieved the top grade in every music thing, has run / jumped / thrown the best result ever known to mankind. She's been predicted all A*s in her A-Levels despite not having started the school yet. Be bloody obvious that you don't take her interest seriously & she'll give up. And you'll enjoy it in the meantime.

tillytrotter1 · 21/03/2019 16:49

I once had a parent who collected five or six other pupils' mock exam papers from them, went through them forensically then demanded, at 3 30 on a Friday afternoon that I justify differences in their marks and her son's marks. I gave her the impression that I was going along with her nonsense until I had all the papers then told her I had a meeting at Morrison's and would inform the other parents of her bullying behaviour towards their children. Not a happy bunny!

SalemShadow · 21/03/2019 17:10

Some advice here. I've had this exact issue. She is being continually rude to you. She doesn't care that she is being rude. You have been polite over and over again. Sometimes you have to be rude with rudeness. Just assert yourself once and save yourself years of bloody misery with this woman. Does she have a job OP? She sounds like she needs to at least busy herself with something at the very least. 6 years is far too long to be overinvested with 11plus. She has no life by the sound of things. Don't be a doormat.

Dontloseyourhead · 21/03/2019 17:23

I was thinking on it today redrose3 and I’m bad at identifying my feelings quick enough in conversation, so I over react to other people’s emotions which makes me (and dd) easily pushed around.

It’s difficult to teach yourself to react quicker to what you want in the moment, so delay/stalling/giving vague information tactics are highly useful.

I think I hate confrontation for the same reason that it’s even harder to access and get what I want when I face a storm of other people’s emotions.

If anyone has seen any helpful stuff on this, let me know!

Dontloseyourhead · 21/03/2019 17:24

Yes increasingly these days we live in a ‘just ask’ society and it means being assertive is a very important skill as people are less likely to reflect on why the other party agreed to a bad bargain.

showmethegin · 21/03/2019 18:52

I would just be completely blatant. Next time she says something like that just say 'you know Jan, can you just shut the fuck hop please, I don't care what Ginny gets in her (enter pursuit here) I don't care about your opinions on schools, in fact why don't you just go and bore someone else. Goodbye' and block her. Hopefully that will embarrass her into leaving her you the hell alone.

She sounds like a bore and a half.

showmethegin · 21/03/2019 18:52

Up! Not hop!

givemesteel · 21/03/2019 19:29

Agree OP, don't respond to any more messages, I would be tempted to say that you don't want to discuss your child's results as the comparison / competitiveness is bad for her mental health and so therefore you would like her to refrain from asking your DD these questions.

Oliversmumsarmy · 21/03/2019 19:33

The one in DS's class has a little notebook that she uses to compare her son to his classmates. Reading levels, test scores, current reading book etc it all goes in there

Now that is a crazy on another level😂

You could have so much fun with her

Phineyj · 21/03/2019 19:54

My plain spoken DSis was afflicted with one of these types once. She said that laughing and saying 'oh, we don't really do competitive parenting' gets rid of them.

Luella29 · 21/03/2019 19:54

Hmm at the 'does she work' comments.

The OP has confirmed she does. And even if she didn't that would not explain the fact she's a competitive bore.

Littlemissdaredevil · 21/03/2019 20:19

Can you as your DD’s new school put your DD in a different form.

Also can you and your DD go grey rock if you do bump into them

I can’t remember
I don’t know.
Sorry cant chat I’m running late
I’ve been very busy lately
Etc, etc

Cherrysoup · 21/03/2019 20:47

The one in DS's class has a little notebook that she uses to compare her son to his classmates. Reading levels, test scores, current reading book etc it all goes in there. She showed it to me because she thought I would be interested, I'm afraid my response was laughter and rolled eyes, followed by complete avoidance in the playground.

Absolutely batshit. This stuff happens? Too crazy!

My plain spoken DSis was afflicted with one of these types once. She said that laughing and saying 'oh, we don't really do competitive parenting' gets rid of them.

Sounds perfect, without being rude. Nice.