I’m just going to leave this here...

[SovietKitsch]

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

Id say in this case it should be any majority gets the call.

However for such a monumental change in this country the first time, we should have expected there be guidlines about minimum turnout. And should have needed a significant majority. Just about half the population (who voted) causing huge upheaval to the rest of the nation was never fair.

That was to @mydogisthebest

A lot of the ‘young people that couldn’t be bothered to get out of bed and vote’ who have strong feelings in the here and now were not old enough to vote 2 years and 9 months ago when the original referendum took place.

Looks like petition site struggling, but currently at 779,717 signatures

@mydogisthebest

I think for me the point of a second referendum is to settle the question of whether the majority of the country actually supports what the government are doing at the moment.

I find it hard to believe that anyone who voted leave can claim that the process thus far has been what they expected. A referendum would give everyone a say on what happens next.

I personally think it should be split into

• Remain in EU
• Leave with no deal
• Leave with TMs deal

At least then I'd feel as though 'the people' as TM so kindly refers to us, have had an informed say

Presumably some bot signatures have been removed.

It's gone over 800k

Wow!

Signed :)

814,425 at 12.08 so 36,000 people signed in 20 minutes.

Watching BBC coverage, quite a few people feel that the pace of petition is a reaction to TMs speech last night

I have signed it but haven’t received my email 🤔

Might be in spam? Or maybe computer is working overtime

Check in your spam/junk folder.

mamama you can’t really have a referendum with 3 questions on the ballot, otherwise the ‘winning’ option will have far less than 50% of votes, which most find unpalatable. So then you might end up with a second votes system, in which case May’s deal most likely to be approved, yet most people of either side dislike it. Ballot options could be that since parliament said ‘No’ to a hard Brexit, to just ask May Deal or Remain. Or, you could argue that we voted to leave so only ballot options are a hard Brexit or May’s deal.

I think 3 options intersting but not practical. Those after a second referendum need to really think about what question they want on the ballot as I don’t think it’s that straight forward!

It'll get to 1m today. Pity nobody's listening, and won't listen to the petition. They're all getting off on the politics.

You need to be aware of any this petition site

www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/27/parliament_takes_axe_to_2nd_referendum_petition/

So far there has been quite a lot from North Korea, Kazakhstan, Nigeria etc etc even on this poll so although its good, be wary of the overall signature count.

Just clicked the link! It's 'down for maintenance' 🤔

It's back again now.

I signed it but haven't had the email through to confirm - conspiracy?

The confirmation email is taking a long time to arrive with me. Have other people had theirs?

NataliaOsipova - my beef is with the wording of the 2016 EU referendum. Were this referendum to have taken place in Switzerland, there would have been a booklet sent to everyone eligible to vote, outlining the pros and cons of both sides, with the possible outcome(s) explained from every point of view. You would then have had the option to vote "Yes", "No" OR "Don't Know". The "Leave" plan would not have been merely a lie on the back of a bus at the end of 40 years of anti-EU propaganda by Johnson, Farage and their ilk.

...whatever the pros and cons of using referenda in a parliamentary system, there can surely be no argument for having precisely one? If you support direct democracy you must surely, if only as a logical conclusion, support a people’s vote on May’s deal......? I'm not sure that Swiss referendums are advisory, though, I think once they are "won", they are put into law, but I could be wrong. Also, in the Swiss model, as long as you can get a certain number of signatories in support, if your proposition has not been accepted the first time, you can put it to the people time and again, I believe. But that is less likely to happen when everyone has been well-informed about the potential outcomes in the first place, unlike with Brexit where Leave had no plan.

I'm a remainer, but what's the point of this?

It's symbolic, all the more so now that the rate at which people are signing it is so vast that the site keeps crashing. It's all over both social and mainstream media. If Brexit and the referendum have taught us nothing else, it should be clear by now that how something looks and is talked about is often more important than what it is.

I got a confirmation e-mail straight away last night.

If it is taking a long time, you need to check your Spam/Trash/Bulk.

Signed. And yes, it took quite a while for confirmation email to come through (that you have to click)

If they get millions of votes that would indicate that there is a real feeling that there is sufficient will of the people to remain. Surely petitioning and voting is the very essence of democracy - a good 65/35 majority either way should be the decider

Ps signed last night