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I’m just going to leave this here...

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SovietKitsch · 21/03/2019 06:20

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

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PutsFootInIt · 21/03/2019 21:41

Technically the vote was advisory not final but technicalities aside, TM voted to trigger article 50 when she did. I think it was Farage who said he would have solidified a trade agreement before triggering A50.

I mean I wouldn't ever consider agreeing with him but it was TM who decided (along with MPs who voted for it) that march 29 was the leave date.

Peregrina · 21/03/2019 21:43

May could have stopped it, once, but she is now so much in hock to the ERG that she has lost control.

PutsFootInIt · 21/03/2019 21:43

So revoke and continue brexit talks, revoke and GE, revoke and second referendum. Just don't no deal.

Bowchicawowow · 21/03/2019 21:43

It was politically binding. Each side said so before the vote. People voted on the basis it would be acted upon.

Goldmandra · 21/03/2019 21:45

TM could stop it. She could revoke Article 50.

She knew that PM during Brexit was a poisoned chalice when she took it. It's the only reason she got the job in the first place.

If she had an ounce of decency she would call this sorry mess for what it is - an undemocratic stinking pile of shit - revoke Article 50 and fall on her sword.

Sadly she is a Tory politician so the ounce of decency is purely hypothetical.

Aria999 · 21/03/2019 22:02

The vote to leave was a fiasco. No plan, lots of dishonesty, nobody understood what they were voting for. The current situation is a fiasco. We need an alternative to no deal brexit. Revoke article 50 is the only one left on the table. I don't think it will happen but it's worth a try. Then maybe we have time for e.g a change of leadership, a new referendum with achievable options properly explained, a different approach to negotiating a deal, some thought about how not to screw over Ireland... I am a passionate remainer but am still surprised and horrified that any brexit supporters still think the current situation is the way to do it.

Theworldisfullofgs · 21/03/2019 22:04

Quite honestly I think May is truly awful.

Bowchicawowow · 21/03/2019 22:04

The problem is through with the ‘voting was a fiasco, people were misled’ argument is that there are millions of people who would say they knew exactly what they were voting for.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 21/03/2019 22:09

1.8m.

Crikey.

StoneofDestiny · 21/03/2019 22:10

Curious all the politicians who pushed for leave cannot be seen for dust - Cameron, Johnson, Farage.
The findings of the leave campaign were highly suspect and the suppliers of the money have shifted their fortunes overseas. Rees Mogg likewise has his investments overseas. They are safe - the rest of us are sadly likely to be stuffed.

Goldmandra · 21/03/2019 22:11

The problem is through with the ‘voting was a fiasco, people were misled’ argument is that there are millions of people who would say they knew exactly what they were voting for.

The situation we are currently in is not what those people were voting for.

Aria999 · 21/03/2019 22:15

The problem is through with the ‘voting was a fiasco, people were misled’ argument is that there are millions of people who would say they knew exactly what they were voting for.

They may have known what they thought they were voting for but (a) you'd get very different and incompatible answers from different brexiters, (b) unless they were voting for a no deal crisis it looks like they're not getting what they voted for, (c) only 1.3 million people need to have been wrong or confused to make a difference.

It's not really democracy when people vote based on being lied to and then can't vote out the liars.

Bowchicawowow · 21/03/2019 22:15

They will say otherwise though. Many are content to leave with no deal. You may disagree with them as do I but you can’t say you can speak for them all.

mrsm43s · 21/03/2019 22:20

Just as an interesting comparison, leave voters won (the advisory, non binding) referendum by 1,269,501 votes. The petition to revoke has currently has 1,902,969 votes.

Will of the people?

Aria999 · 21/03/2019 22:20

I don't believe that the people who are content to leave with no deal are a majority of voters in Britain. Maybe we should have a referendum to find out...?

Goldmandra · 21/03/2019 22:25

you can’t say you can speak for them all.

OK. The vast majority did not vote for no deal or the shit show that is currently playing out.

I acknowledge that there may be a very tiny minority who expected this and understood.

Aria999 · 21/03/2019 22:26

@mrsm43s that doesn't really work as they could all be from the original 16m remainders. It would need about 17m votes to be sure some people changed their minds. Polling suggests that people have changed their minds though, so who knows!

acquiescence · 21/03/2019 22:27

Signed.

mrsm43s · 21/03/2019 22:31

@Aria999 Shhhh! I was hoping the leavers would blithely accept my true but misleading figures, after all they blithely accepted what was written on the side of a bus that was misleading and not even true!

Melroses · 21/03/2019 22:38

1,999,386 - nearly 2m

ChatNicknameAlreadyInUse · 21/03/2019 22:39

Just over 2 million!

Melroses · 21/03/2019 22:39

2002343 - that was fast.

Aria999 · 21/03/2019 22:47

@mrsm43s yes but the Remain strategy of trying to present expert opinion in a non biased way was so successful before we should really keep trying it 😂😫

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SovietKitsch · 21/03/2019 23:09

Over 2,000,000! Now all the people who think signing won’t make a difference maybe can see it could?

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LimaLemur · 21/03/2019 23:45

Fingers crossed the numbers will keep growing!

Although, as the signatories don’t have to prove they’re eligible to vote in Britain, I’m not sure how valid this petition would be. There have been some articles mentioning that some of the people signing the petition are from abroad, so it’s all very well to have lots of signatures, but how can we prove this is actually a valid representation of what British voters want?

(This is from a fully paid up and passionate Remainer).