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To think that Teresa May's speech this evening was an absolute fucking disgrace?

468 replies

Livingtothefull · 20/03/2019 21:57

'You, the public, have had enough.
“You’re tired of the infighting, you’re tired of the political games and the arcane procedural rows, tired of MPs talking about nothing else but Brexit when you have real concerns about our children’s schools, our National Health Service, knife crime'.

“You want this stage of the Brexit process to be over and done with. I agree. I am on your side. ”

So: 'You’re tired of all the shit that my party and my government have caused eg through years of cuts to the health and police services. It's not my fault that Brexit has been so appallingly badly handled, I'm only the Prime Minister and it's everyone else's fault. So why not just let me have my way and things will all get better? I am a mindreader and presume to know what you want, even though I display zero empathy in my public utterances, and I know you all want Brexit (even though only a small proportion of the electorate actually voted for it, 3 years ago)'.

We’re finished as a country if this is the best we can do, it is just heartbreaking that our country has been brought to this. I cant believe that this woman is in a position of such power and represents our country.

I don't WANT you on my side, just get away from me.

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GoFiguire · 21/03/2019 20:26

I thought Theresa May was spelt “T.W.A.T.”

CatGoals · 21/03/2019 20:49

I thought Theresa May was spelt “T.W.A.T.”

And to think the Tories are supposed to be the “nasty party.” Hmm Wow. Keeping it very classy there @GoFiguire.

GoFiguire · 21/03/2019 21:02

Why, thank you 😊

badlydrawnperson · 21/03/2019 21:03

am a bit surprised that the number signing is so small in Scotland and N Ireland considering they voted remain Over 40% to leave in NI - you make it sound as if no-one voted leave there

bluebell34567 · 21/03/2019 21:15

i think that petition is hacked and so invalid.

LizzieSiddal · 21/03/2019 21:16

badly you’ve misunderstood what that poster is saying.

Daisymay2 · 21/03/2019 22:20

Lizzie is right badly - not sure how I implied no one voted leave in NI.
I merely observed that the majority of people in NI voted leave ( which you kindly confirmed ) but the few constituencies I looked at on the Petition map were showing that less than 1% had signed the petition, whereas in my constituency where about 64% supported leave around 1.75% had signed the petition.

It was an observation and I was curious where the votes were coming from..

catburglar · 21/03/2019 22:38

Very close to 2 million now!

catburglar · 21/03/2019 22:40

Actually 200,002,000 now

UnspiritualHome · 22/03/2019 00:07

i think that petition is hacked and so invalid

@bluebell4567, do you have any evidence for that, or is it wishful thinking?

How999 · 22/03/2019 05:41

2.28 million now.

Meretricious · 22/03/2019 06:17

The previous one in 2016 got hacked by bots. They say they’ve got better controls now. It was on bbc website...

UnspiritualHome · 22/03/2019 08:56

Matthew Parris's Times article - www.thetimes.co.uk/article/theresa-may-has-turned-conservative-discord-into-aschism-0btbdk80q - seems very relevant here. Quote:

As to the Conservative Party, I am beginning to change my view of the big problem. I’ve always said it was the referendum result; and joked that although Theresa May obviously isn’t any good, the Archangel Gabriel could not have salvaged much improvement on the awful deal she’s hawking to her scared and exhausted Tory troops.

But as the months have ground on I’ve been at first shocked but finally persuaded that not Brexit alone, but also she personally, is the problem.

Time and again I’ve protested that she may not be the answer but she didn’t create this mess: she’s just an unimaginative, unremarkable, perhaps wooden but dogged politician, overly cautious and rather shy. Time and again my informants — MPs, former MPs, civil servants, special advisers — tell me, eyes flashing, that I’ve got it wrong and the public have it wrong, and she’s so much worse than that. She’s not normal. She’s extraordinary. Extraordinarily uncommunicative; extraordinarily rude in the way she blanks people, ideas and arguments. To my surprise there is no difference between the pictures of her that Remainers and Brexiteers paint.

Theresa May, they tell me (in a couple of cases actually shouting) is the Death Star of modern British politics. She’s the theory of anti-matter, made flesh. She’s a political black hole because nothing, not even light, can escape. Ideas, beliefs, suggestions, objections, inquiries, proposals, projects, loyalties, affections, trust, whole careers, real men and women, are sucked into the awful void that is Downing Street — and nothing ever comes out: no answers, only a blank so blank that it screams. Reputations (they lament) are staked on her, and lost. Warnings are delivered to her, and ignored. Plans are run by her, unacknowledged. Messages are sent to her, unanswered. She has become the unperson of Downing Street: the living embodiment of the closed door.

And I am, finally, persuaded. Persuaded that Theresa May has not simply failed to unite two wings of my party, but that her premiership has driven them apart, into anger and despair; helped to turn a disagreement into a schism. Before healing becomes possible (one told me) she, and all who wait upon her and have surrounded her, must be hounded out of the party’s cockpit, and every trace of the era of her leadership expunged. Another, careless of the proprieties, told me the political massacre should be on a Rwandan scale. For the first time I understood the passion, if not the logic, behind the self-defeating challenge to her leadership the Brexiteers mounted last December.

PerkingFaintly · 22/03/2019 09:14

There can be hacking of the petition, and the petition still be valid. It's not an official vote, the exact numbers don't matter. A small percentage of bot signatures wouldn't be significant.

The Brexit referendum, on the other hand... That was an official vote. Any hackery with that would matter.

Meretricious · 22/03/2019 15:06

That Matthew Paris article sounds spot on. There’s been no attempt to mitigate or work with anyone. Corbyn also bein* a disaster doesn’t help....

UnspiritualHome · 22/03/2019 16:28

One of the interesting features of the Matthew Parris article is that he is a Conservative, so it can't be dismissed as the ravings of some dreadful lefty.

Lifeisabeach09 · 22/03/2019 16:46

To be fair, she didn't start this shitshow (thank you, Cameron, Johnson, Farage, et al), she's just been left to try and deal without a chance in hell of pleasing any side; deal, no deal or remain. I'd hate to be in her shoes.

Lifeisabeach09 · 22/03/2019 16:48

But I agree she's not the best person for job: the UK needs a charming, shrewd, diplomatic negotiator, not May.

Cookmysock1 · 22/03/2019 17:07

It's like the fucking Hotel California at the moment

Meretricious · 22/03/2019 17:46

amp.ft.com/content/5f3df8bc-4c03-11e9-bde6-79eaea5acb64?__twitter_impression=true great article in the FT

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 22/03/2019 17:56

i think that petition is hacked and so invalid

There seem to be a few different posters saying this

Is there an originating link?

WaterQuarter · 22/03/2019 18:02

Originating link is Nigel Farage. So totally credible.

But debunked.

twitter.com/jamesdotcuff/status/1109079185987915779

Hartley Brewer has also been tweeting today that people can sign the petition as many times as they link. Also another Leaver lie.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 22/03/2019 18:03

3.5 million now. DH has just signed. Hope dies last.

twofingerstoEverything · 22/03/2019 18:34

If you want to contact Nige to reassure him that although you signed the petition you are neither Russin nor a bot, he can be contacted here: [email protected]