AIBU to ask Leavers if this is what you voted for?

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And if it is are you looking forward to 29th?

Am I being goady for considering the point you made and responding to it specifically?

No, but that isn't what you where doing before. but you post

You thought Johnson would do this? Farage? JRM? Gove?

When I clearly stated government. Its called expecting those in power to do their jobs.

Yet another imbecilic thread on this subject.

This sums things up perfectly:
Leave voters voted to leave the EU it was a simple choice. It was then up to the politicians and the civil service to carry out that choice. Unfortunately these areas are massively dominated by remainers who don't really want to carry this out.

NO LEAVER VOTED FOR THE CURRENT SHIT SHOW

What exactly did you all vote for then? Oh yes. To give the Tories a boot up the backside. Well, I'm all for that. Unfortunately all you've done is shoot yourself in the foot. But hey, blue passports!

But hey, blue passports!

Unfortunately these areas are massively dominated by remainers who don't really want to carry this out.

That is a very concerning, if the population are not being represented and in fact defied by systems intended to service them. Perhaps once we have Brexited, there should be a discussion of how to correct this travesty.

It’s like the imbecile’s edition of Brexit Bingo

This sums things up perfectly:
Leave voters voted to leave the EU it was a simple choice. It was then up to the politicians and the civil service to carry out that choice. Unfortunately these areas are massively dominated by remainers who don't really want to carry this out.

This only 'sums things up perfectly' if you're a leaver looking for a whipping boy.

Its called expecting those in power to do their jobs.

Yeah so you’d expect the brexit secretaries (Davies, Raab, Barclay) to be all over this. Or failing that the foreign secretary (Johnson).

All leavers. All had ample opportunity to deliver on their promises. All got us precisely nowhere.

Wow possums the hypocrisy is strong with you, you have'nt made a single intelligent post on this page, I would almost call your posts imbecilic.

Do remainers not realise that it's exactly this sort of attitude that led to some leavers voting leave in the first place?

People felt patronised. They felt disenfranchised. They didn't feel they were being listened to. They were constantly told by the government that a lot of the issues they had were down to the EU - the EU was a convenient scapegoat sometimes for the gov.

They didn't vote for chaos. They voted based on what they thought best for their country. They believed that their government would be able to deliver something they had offered - which is a completely normal assumption to make given the importance of the outcome. But yet again our gov showed incompetence and arrogance of astronomical proportions and now NO ONE is getting what they wanted.

It's ironic how many times things like 'deal with it' have been said in here, when it fact it's remainers who keep banging on and driving the knife in

The sneery, condescending attitudes of some posters on here makes me almost wish I had voted leave

hypocracy and haven't FFS

NO ONE is getting what they wanted

Some posters on this thread have clearly stated that they are getting what they wanted. Why have you ignored them? That's very patronising.

Its called expecting those in power to do their jobs

Before a government gains power they need to be elected. Before a GE political parties produced manifestos. Often some aspects are costed and plans are provided. No government sticks to its manifesto entirely but you know what the main aims and aspirations of the party are.

Leave produced no plan, no detail, no costing. They had no team. They had no negotiating plans or tactics. They had no suggestions about NI and GFA. They used words with absolutely no supporting facts or evidence. The weight of economic opinion was against them. It was a vacuous fact free campaign. Brilliant rhetoric though.

You voted for rhetoric with no basis in reality and ended up in a mess but it is everyone's fault but the people who voted for it.

twofingerstoEverything

I wonder if you went on marches?
Wrote letters to your MP?
Signed those petitions that are still going around?

Because if so, by your logic, you are just as much to blame as the rest of us.

LaurieMarlow

I agree, but then its a sensible post.

Do remainers not realise that it's exactly this sort of attitude that led to some leavers voting leave in the first place?

That's right this whole mess is the fault of Remainers. Remainers made people vote for a campaign with no basis in logic, sense or facts.

They didn't vote for chaos

Well actually lots of them are saying now that they did vote for a no deal, which is clearly bollocks, but it’s difficult to reason with those determined to rewrite history.

Unfortunately these areas are massively dominated by remainers who don't really want to carry this out.

March poll results on this very topic:

MPs are delaying the vote in order to thwart Brexit

Agree 56% Disagree 16% Don't know 28%

The Government seems to be in favour of remaining in the EU and has set out to thwart Brexit from the beginning

Agree 44% Disagree 27% Don't Know 28%

The Civil Service seems in favour of remaining in the EU and could have misled both ministers and the public with research designed to put Brexit in a negative light,

Agree 38% Disagree 21% Don't Know 41%

Windowsareforcheaters
You voted for rhetoric with no basis in reality and ended up in a mess but it is everyone's fault but the people who voted for it.

Yet you voted for a group that called everyone else thick and racist, that must make you feel fantastic.

Your side product no info on NI or anything else, just that they where right and everyone else was wrong.

But hey lets just rehash all the same old bollocks.

Some posters on this thread have clearly stated that theyaregetting what they wanted. Why have you ignored them? That's very patronising.

1 poster has said 'this is what I voted for and I can't wait for the 29th. Anymore questions OP', which has a huge whiff of someone being obtuse because of it being such a stupid question.

1 poster said they voted leave and would do so again. They doesn't mean they voted for this maddening uncertainty and sheer incompetence. They may see this farce as a means to an end.

You have leave voters explicitly telling you they didn't vote for this yet people are screaming 'YES YOU DID'

The Civil Service seems in favour of remaining in the EU and could have misled both ministers and the public with research designed to put Brexit in a negative light

Once we have got Brexit done, it looks like there is ample public support for taking measures to correct the recalcitrant Civil Service and Parliament. Perhaps some suggestions from the posters who have identified this issue on how to go about this?

That's right this whole mess is the fault of Remainers. Remainersmadepeople vote for a campaign with no basis in logic, sense or facts

Who said remainers? How can it be our/their fault when they didnt technically exist? I said sort of attitude, but do go on .

Remainers didn't have to produce info on NI because remaining didn't change the status quo - the status quo which had resulted in peace in NI!

It it ain't broke....

Yes Remainers did call people who published that poster racist for the very good reason it was racist.

And no I'm not happy, no one is happy. The country is broken and will probably go broke. We are in a mess and it's getting worse. And to add insult to injury Remainers are now being told that this mess that we didn't want and didn't vote for is all our fault!

It's funny really because I voted remain for the status quo. It's funny reading all this 'WE TOLD YOU!' did you? Because half the shit that is happening now was never on my radar. Smacks a bit of using hindsight as a weapon to bash leavers.

Leaves are saying they didn't vote for this.

The point is that this was entirely predictable and was in fact predicted but dismissed as project fear.

You didn't want this or expect this when you voted, but while you did all the research that all leavers did you must have come across people predicting exactly this? And when you came across these predictions you ignored them and voted Brexit.