Should a preschool deal with soiling?

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Does anyone else go to a preschool where they won't deal with soiling?

They have to comply with the welfare requirements of the EYFS in England, so they can't "not deal" with soiling.

My child’s preschool accepts children in nappies, children mid way through potty training... you name it. They certainly wouldn’t refuse to deal with a soiled child and IMO it would be strange to refuse. Children have accidents, and that’s just part and parcel of working with very young children.

They have to deal with soiling - surely. I know some won't take children until they're potty trained, but all kids still have accidents.

Lucky with mine - they take any child from age 3 regardless of the stage of potty training they are at.

They say they're not covered to deal with it. Just turned three.

Private preschool or part of a school?

Is this a thing now?

Private. Attached to a school. Left for two hours today until I could get there. Policy states blue gloves etc for incidents, but this is apparently being updated.

What are the welfare requirements EYFS? Sorry, don't know how to tag.

Have a look.at the ERIC guidelines which suggest its neglectful to leave a child soiled and or wet.

one of my friend’s kids went to a nursery where they wouldn’t clean up any accidents. they’d call her and she’d have to go to the nursery to clean him up. in the end she withdrew him from nursery until he was fully toilet trained. however the nursery my kids went to the staff would clean up and change kids who’d had accidents.

Poor little thing. How could they leave him unchanged so so long? He must have so sore and uncomfortable.

Bone idle of the staff. I get schools not wanting to do it regularly but surely it's just part of looking after toddlers

If they are getting money for early years funding than they will have to deal with it I'm not sure if it works i f they don't get money ,it would be complaining I whoever is in charge that they are neglecting your child .

They are working with young children. They have to deal with it. We don't live in an ideal world where 3 year olds are all fully toilet savvy.

Goodness me really? My sons preschool are absolutely fine with it. He started in pull ups but was dry a few months in... hes nearly 4 now. But many of the other kids who are even older than him are not dry yet! You just had to fill out a form saying it was okay for them to change your childs clothing and clean them etc

I’m a teacher, previously taught reception. It’s totally unacceptable to leave a child soiled for 2hours. I would say I’m shocked, but I’ve heard tell of similar. If this was my child I’d formally complain to the pre-school and I would challenge any “no changing” policy. I don’t see how anyone can care for small children and refuse to change them or support them to change themselves (if older and capable of doing so). For a setting looking after 3 and 4 year olds it’s a disgrace. If they continued to maintain this policy I would complain to the local authority and ultimately OFSTED. Small children have accidents, early years settings (and primary schools) need to have sensible procedures to get children clean and changed.

The Eric website said it's not good practice to call parents in to change children, and is abuse to leave them sitting wet or soiled. However, as far as I know he has no bladder or bowel problems, so is this still the case?

Yes of course because small children have accidents ,even when they are fully toilet trained when I used I collect ds 1 from nursery he's now 12 it wasn't uncommon to see a child coming out of school.having being changed due to having accident.

I was in a meeting and came out to voicemails from the school saying I needed to change him as he'd soiled himself. I rang straight back and told them I could leave work but would still be half an hour away. I asked if they could at least ask my son to pull his own pants down and wipe himself and put him in another pair of pants if they are not allowed to change him (complete change of clothes in his bag). Two hours from incident until collection. They are allowed to change wees but not poos apparently.

Iirc if a private school/nursery uses Early Years funding (free 15 hours) they cannot opt out of dealing with nappies and accidents.

What is lirc? They don't accept funding.

In the past a lot pre-schools used to have a policy of only taking potty trained children. I don't think that is allowed anymore. But even when they did have such a policy they would still be under an obligation to sort out any accients that might have happened. Even potty trained kids still have accidents.

I'd be looking at changing pre-schools if it's possible. Poor little kid. How could they leave him like that on a human level, never mind 'guidelines'?

Iirc is if I remember correctly,I wonder what they would do if they had a child with !medical issues or disabilities that caused them to soil regularly?