Should a preschool deal with soiling?

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Does anyone else go to a preschool where they won't deal with soiling?

Aww no, that’s not nice at all. I would seriously consider moving him if it’s likely he’ll have an accident again.

When my lad went to nursery (attached to a school) at 3yrs, they said all children were to be toilet trained. I met with his teacher just before the summer (as it was a school it only had intake in Sept) and said I was worried because he wasn’t fully trained yet and she said not to worry as if he had accidents then they would help him. It’s just kids who are still in nappies all the time that they couldn’t take on.

Thanks! When I called them to say I was half an hour away, I asked them to ask him to take his pants off, which they then did. It just really upsets me that they have chosen this policy and that nothing was said about it before I joined. It's part and parcel of dealing with preschoolers isn't it? Last time I could get there quickly and when I raised concerns about what would happen if I wasn't wfh, I was told they would change if I couldn't. Even that didn't sit right as it feels like they're doing a huge favour for something that most preschoolers do! I had to leave work to deal, sickened and upset all the time I was driving back.

I hope that was some time ago skittlesss? As it's now illegal to.say children can't come to nursery in nappies as it discriminates against children who are not toilet trained for whatever reason including disability.

x2boys it was a few years ago now - he’s in yr 2, so 3 and a half years ago.

Yes still illegal three and a half years ago .

I don't think most preschoolers soil their pants? I can understand the odd one, perhaps if they aren't well, but I don't think it's a common occurrence? How come it took you two and a half hours to get there OP?

Oh wow, I didn’t know that back then! That’s really bad. I mean, it gave him a push to get out of nappies, but we were lucky that he did it. Some children may not have been ready for various reasons.

I wod give that nursery a miss, doesn't sound very caring.

Yes I would expect preschoolers in different stages of potty training. Tier readiness is like any stage of development, some get it early some don't for various reasons. It is not the child's fault. My ds took until 4;5 until it clicked, then straight away dry at night. He has SN though so took longer. However dd who also has SN was3:5 years when she cracked it. They are all different.

@TabbyMumz the OP said she was in a meeting so didn’t get the message until a while after, then had to drive half an hour to the pre school.

Is this a private school with a private day nursery attached that doesn't take early years funding?

I'd say remove and ofsted. It's just not acceptable.

@winterberry.....best to take a mobile phone into the meeting then? When you have young children, that's the norm.

I've worked in places where mobile phones weren't allowed in the building, never mind meetings. Best to find some caring childcare, which the op can now do.

@TabbyMunz surely the whole point in forking out for nursery is for the staff to look after your child. It's not like this was a medical emergency

Well done TabbyMumz, not the nursery being crap at all, of course it was all OP’s fault, she needed that kicking.

Thanks. Tabbymunz, looks like I've found a great nursery for you!

Yes, it's private nursery in same building as school.

@x2boys is it also illegal for private nurseries? Can you point me in the direction of any documentation so that I can show school?

I agree sounds awful. As a first step I would make a formal complaint and complain to ofsted. In my view it is neglectful to leave a child in that state and there are multiple scenarios where parents can’t get there quickly. You could even seek the views of the children’s safeguarding/social services team.
Is the nursery governed by the school board of governors? If so you can complain to them.

OP said it was a preschool, so took it children would be 3 or 4, getting ready for school as opposed to a nursery where they are babies and 2 year olds. There are different expectations in preschools than there is in nurseries. Not a medical emergency at all, but was only saying 2 and a half hours to get there is pretty bad. What if it was an emergency?! Also bad they left him in soiled clothes that long.

Well presumably someone with nothing better to do than turn up to a preschool or nursery within minutes wouldn't need such services.

www.teachers.org.uk/files/continence-&-toilet-issues.doc

TabbyMumz Small children have accidents. My dd had an accident in primary school and they dealt with it.

www.eric.org.uk/help-at-school-faqs

My son went to a reception class where the teacher stood up and firmly stated I will never leave a child dirty if they cant deal with it themselves we will glove up and assist yes there might be a short delay but there are enough teachers in the school and support staff to help out (they used to grab support staff from the attached nursery to be the plus one for cleaning kids up)