Netflix Madeleine McCann

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AIBU to think that any coverage of her disappearance is a good thing. I watched two episodes of the Netflix programme and think that if it were to bring her back into the spotlight, then surely it’s worthwhile? I’m on my own in that opinion here in our house.

greeneyedlulu, you said "Don't understand how they, and the other parents at that dinner, left their children to go out to dinner "

In what way will that stop anyone else doing it in the future, no one is going to think, OK I've only read that 1000000 times but now lulu has said it I'll change my behaviour.

How many parents on here sit looking at their mobile phones instead of keeping a close eye on their kids. I’ve seen it time after time. Yet I bet they are also the ones going ‘I would never do this. I would never do that!’ People are hypocritically

A planned and organised childcare is totally different then a moment of carelessness being on your mobile phone.
It’s a bunch of adults who all the seemed to think this was an ok thing to do When there were so many other choices especially that money was no object.
Even a long range baby monitor(since apparently they were so close to their apartment from their table ) would have been a better move then Leaving 2/3 year olds alone while they dined in a foreign country.
Ok. Everyone has made mistakes as parents but they must have realised this was a bad idea and till now they have not admitted it was.

Yes because I have so much power!! FGS you know exactly what I mean so I now think you're being a bit silly!!
I'm now watching episode 3 and have to read the subtitles so off I'll fuck and will still be thinking why did they leave her!!!!

The Police have never been guilty of downgrading a crime for their crime figures have they - the "crime" here was grabbing and hair pulling, why would the police class that as attempted abduction?

No one has answered the question - does the documentary discuss the Martin Smith sighting?

FGS you know exactly what I mean

I don't know what you mean, I know what the words mean but I don't know why your views on whether you'd' leave your children is in any way relevant nearly 12 years later.

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I’ve just looked on a local page and and found this post from a local

URGENT*

My daughter has just been out walking our dog & a man pulled over trying to get her to get in his car. She said no & he proceeded to drive on, pull over & try to direct to her to get in again. To which point she turned round & ran home. Police have been notified and are having a drive round to make sure kids etc ok. Thankfully my daughter is safe & now at home with me, but please just check on your kids if they’re out & about

I’m afraid I don’t think when it’s word against word the police can do much however doesn’t mean these things aren’t happening around us and I’ve seen many posts like this.

It is worrying. But obviously posting anything like this to raise awareness your just branded a liar

Kate and Gerry McCann, A's well as making a terrible parenting error have sadly been added to the list of people who have been branded as "off" because they've not reacted to a tragedy in the way we perceive to be appropriate.

Other people (funnily enough usually women)have been victims of this. Amanda Knox, Joanne Lees (remember her? Almost accused of murdering her boyfriend because she wore a tight top?).

There have been two times in my life I've had really horrific news and I can't fathom my behaviour with hindsight both times. When my daughter was born and we thought she was going to die I remember suddenly turning and asking FIL if he'd lost weight. He looked at me as if I was insane. When my DM committed suicide last year I refused to go in and see her body. I was joking in the hospital, I didn't cry. I went home and ate a KFC and slept all night.

I've no idea why I reacted that way- I can only presume it was shock sending me into some form of self preservation mode. But I never judge people for not reacting the way I think they should now.

Pierre it doesn't I don't think but the Martin Smith sighting was really irrelevant because he was wrong. There were many MANY people in the restaurant who confirm Gerry was there at the time. That's the only reason that the Portuguese police tried to pin it on Kate - the actual death I mean. They always believed Gerry was involved after the fact

No one has answered the question - does the documentary discuss the Martin Smith sighting?

Yes it does briefly. Only to say that Gerry McCann was confirmed as being in the restaurant at the time of the sighting and Mr Smith now believes it was someone else he saw

I'm currently watching the documentary but haven't finished it yet.

Just on the police investigations though from earlier comments, there have only been 3 British children go missing abroad. One is MM, the other is Ben Needham and the third is Katrice Lee. The Gov have funded the Ben Needham investigation in recent years, but it's not closed.

Katrice Lee investigation is the responsibility of the MoD police as she disappeared from an army base. This case isn't closed either.

And although £11m is a lot of money, it's a drop in the ocean compared to the c£14bn that policing spends in England and Wales each year. Giving the £11m to the 43 forces would have made no difference at all to any of the other investigations, particularly since the £11m has been spent over 6-7 years.

And the UK Police can't just rock up abroad. The Portuguese Police have primacy and we can't go in mob handed just because a Brit Cit is missing. The other country has to ask us for assistance.

The Portuguese Police also have the reputation of being a bit like Life on Mars. In that, they decide who's guilty and they then fit the evidence to their theory. I wouldn't believe anything they had to say - and the previous behaviour of the lead investigator suggests that he's not the one you'd want to rely on to solve the case.

It certainly has a lot of people talking. I think it was a planned abduction and they likely entered through the open patio doors and out through the window perhaps? Although if anyone had walked passed and MM was awake and crying it would have been fairly obvious she was not being supervised

Thank you caughtinanet glad you are feeling as as I am over greeneyedLulu unique observations. We're you on here 12 years ago when it actually happened? There were SO many threads every single day saying EXACTLY the same thing. I think that ship has sailed sadly

It keeps me awake at night.

But even if it wasn't Gerry, surely it's an important sighting?. Surely one of the most important clues of all? No one has ever come forward to identify themselves at that man. Why ignore it when detectives put a lot more credence on it than the Jane Tanner sighting? And why did the BBC lie about it?

No one has answered the question - does the documentary discuss the Martin Smith sighting?

A family came forward after the reconstruction and the husband was identified as being the father carrying his daughter back from the night crèche. He matched the artists impression also.

Did anyone see series the cry ?

Apparently it was influenced by the MM case

I sincerely hope there is at the very least a death bed confession, similar to Ben Needham's case and the family can get closure.

I do agree that the police seem to have handled this pretty badly, although if you read all the police files they did explore many avenues and search many places, phones, laptops etc. It was not all focused on the parents.

I do think some of the comments towards the PJ are naive at best and racist at worse, would our own police really be much better? Maybe tell that to the family of Libby Squire, Liam Smith etc.

miranda that was a different sighting.

In the Martin Smith one, the man was carrying a pale sleeping child with blond hair, coming from the direction of the McCanns' apartment and heading towards the sea.

That was the Jane Tanner sighting miranda. The Mr Smith sighting was a different one. He thought that he saw Gerry McCann carrying a child towards the beach

Yes it does briefly. Only to say that Gerry McCann was confirmed as being in the restaurant at the time of the sighting and Mr Smith now believes it was someone else he saw Which itself is a lie. Mr Smith does not now believe it was someone else.

Kitty the Portuguese police objectively made a mess of this case. It's not racism to say that. Amaral had just been declared an official suspect for the beating of the mother in the Joana case prior to MM going missing.

It's fact that the Portuguese police were leaking misleading information to the press about the McCanns. Information that's still being quoted as "evidence" in this very thread such as the "dna" in the rental car.

KittyLane1

I too hope there would be at least a death bed confession however many sick people use their power to take these things to the grave as a final insult to injury like the moors killer in the 60s even on his death bed he refused to say were some of his victims were buried as a final act of control - sick sick man

In the documentary (final episode I think) Martin Smith retracts his statement as he no longer believed his sighting to be GM. He believed it to be the father of the family described as does JT. The same sighting just in a different area of Luz.

That millionaire and his son acting as cops. Surely their actions would have ruled any pertinent evidence inadmissible. Can't get my head around the Spanish private investigators.