Netflix Madeleine McCann

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AIBU to think that any coverage of her disappearance is a good thing. I watched two episodes of the Netflix programme and think that if it were to bring her back into the spotlight, then surely it’s worthwhile? I’m on my own in that opinion here in our house.

I think people are insinuating something when they say that abduction is a strange first thought, especially where the McCannns are concerned. Own it at least.

Reddit has a lot of info on this. People there have compiled huge amounts of records, some that were available to the public and some that they requested.

If anyone is interested it’s worth a search.

Threads and posts don’t get deleted there either.

How difficult it must have been growing up in the shadow of a missing sibling, and with the world knowing what your parents have done

IceRebel your comment above shows exactly what you think about the McCanns.

I’ve watched episode 1 and half of number 2. I don’t know if I’ll persevere with it as it’s sooo drawn out. Literally 90 minutes to learn pretty much nothing. This thread is interesting though. I hope one day there’s a resolution to this case.

We went to the Algarve on holiday last year and it was a wonderful holiday - beautiful, friendly, calm, it felt so safe. And 2 days in I realised that we were very close to Priai de Luz and I understood why holiday makers would be lulled into a false sense of security.

That said, we religiously locked up our villa every time we left to go out. The chances of burglary and theft were always in the back of my mind.

So I will never understand why they left the apartment unlocked.

How do people know what Kate's first thought was? I haven't seen the programme but pps have referred to Kate running back to the group shouting about abduction. Presumably her mind went through more plausible options first?

Pengrin can you link the reddit thread?

I think the reason they don't say much about the night and the checking is that' I imagine after some 🍷 and never feeling any danger, they simply didn't check on the children as often or as thourghly as they should.

Peodophiles are rife , everywhere. Some are loners, some are organised and part of massive worldwide clubs like wonder land.

Some are stratospheric in abusing... that Cambridge educated man recently put behind bars.... worst case ever seen, savile, m Jackson.

Where are children off guard, half naked...on a beaches on holiday.
I think she's caught someone's eye... and unfortunately was exposed by lack of protection at night.

Look at it from predators POV. Child caught your eye... you want her... and you watch the family.... low and behold.. the apartment is right on egde of block.. access from a street... and Jack pot. the DC are left alone every night!!

Why the focus on ‘first thoughts?’

Tbh it’s such an awful situation to imagine, finding your child isn’t there, that None of us can say with any certainly how we would react/ think in that initial moment of shock.

It’s the subsequent behaviour which is more difficult to justify and explain. Why the absolute insistence that there is only one possible scenario? Why the refusal to do a reconstruction?

Focusing on the rights and wrongs of a) leaving the children in the first place and b) the parents reaction in the initial moment of shock, is totally pointless and worse, it deflects attention away from the more significant issue of the subsequent ongoing behaviour and why this case is treated so differently to any others

Accio totally agree and said similar above. But I often wonder what came first here - chicken or egg. Or is there a cross over?
I think the parents have had to start many injunctions to stop speculation and protect themselves because some people incriminate them for anything they say or did. Whether relevant or not.

Like I said. The truth will remain hidden whilst they seek it because the whole truth cannot be discussed in media.

What truth will remain though - forever - is that a family will live with the devastating consequences of their decision with every waking breath they take

IceRebel your comment above shows exactly what you think about the McCanns.

How so? I have already clarified my point was about the children being left in a room by themselves.

I assumed that Kate thought there had been an intruder because the window, which they had left shut, had been opened and the shutter rolled up. Not something a 3 year old could/would do herself.

What I can’t understand is why didn’t start calling Madeleine and yelling for help. Instead she left the two babies to get help, when she feared that there was an abductor on the loose.

But it is easy to raise these questions in the cold light of day. The pain on poor Kate’s face tells me she did not harm her child.

Yes....when dd went missing at Butlins....i found a red coat and told her she had been abducted. She radioed through to security and they shut down the exits. DH found her trying to get on the trampolines

and with the world knowing what your parents have done

What are saying here then?

I think the phycology of group dynamics comes into it as well.
People more likely too be carried along by everyone in the group

If it's two people and one feels uncomfortable... but 1 in 8 relaxed...

Yes it's odd, all those who are STILL judging the McCanns seem to be congratulating themselves: "That could never happen to me because I'm a better parent." I couldn't bring myself to feel smug about it, I just feel so, so sorry for them. And I'm not a perfect parent myself, so I feel more like "There but for the Grace of God go I." Poor, poor family.

What are saying here then?

Exactly what I have previously clarified. That the world knows they left the children alone in a room.

That's not a negative slur against their parents, just a fact that the world is aware of, and on that the twins will also know about.

one not on.

The other thing to remember is like how they are cristised for being too cold on TV. And yet experts had told them to do this in case abductor watching.

I think but not 100 that they wanted the re construction when they were still suspects. So perhaps they felt it was safer too stay in UK

I completely agree, although I so wish other missing children received the same amount of effort, funding, etc. That poor 11 yr old boy in the documentary kidnapped and used in the child sexual exploitation and his poor family can't find him to save him. He's from Portugal, and vertually no media coverage.
If I were the Madelains parents, I would have drawn other missing children from around the world into the campaign. Firstly to raise awareness as to the actual extent this happens. Secondly to encourage parents to be more vigilant for their children. Thirdly to literally get the whole world searching for these poor children as opposed to just one. Get money pots from elsewhere to help fund from around the world. Our children are our future. We have got to protect them. Most abusers were abused themselves. As a race, we have to significantly limit this happening. That poor boy Rui.

it is still important to discuss their childcare arrangements because whatever happened, did so as a direct consequence of three children with a combined age of less than seven being left alone in the dark in an unfamiliar setting, in an unlocked apartment night after night while their parents wined and dined out of eyesight and out of earshot while checking on their kids (at best) every 30 minutes.

and when a child goes missing the police have to ask awkward questions - it would be remiss of them not to do so

How difficult it must have been growing up in the shadow of a missing sibling, and with the world knowing what your parents have done

You weren’t talking about the world speculating but the impact on the twins growing up in the spotlight of a missing sibling and the world knowing what the parents had done.

A Couple of things

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But it’s very clear that they manipulated the media from the outset and were also keen to avoid probing such as a reconstruction which could have conflicted with their time line of events.

What was very clear after watching the whole documentary and seeing how the Portuguese police behaved, leaking lies to the press about what the forensic results showed, was that the MCCanns realised they had to really fight against the very people that should have been helping them. Can you imagine that? The Police seemed intent on blaming them, all their 'evidence' was just bollocks. The MCCanns couldn't trust the Police. They were wise to try to take control so that their daughter was looked for. They knew people who could help and took advantage of that after seeing how badly the Portuguese police and press behaved.

Also, both Kate and Gerry were happy for a reconstruction to take place, that was also in the documentary.

The way the Police handled the 'Joana' case is simply astonishing. Same detective as was first in charge of Madeleine's case. I couldn't believe what I was watching.

Ozzie I agree that would have been excellent idea. Also link up similarities, perhaps Maddie taken by same Gang but don't you feel that onus that Portuguese woman has no funding is down to her circumstances... our government has given loads.. maybe Portuguese government should have done same.

Also don't forget rich Americans flying into Portugal for sole purpose of abusing boys from that children's home there .

What has Portuguese government and society done?

I don't think we can blame mcans for getting funds.