To think the world has a big white supremacy problem?

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Is anyone actually surprised that this has happened? It is shocking and sickening, but let’s face it, it has been so acceptable for so long to vilify muslims, to abuse muslims, to attack muslims - politicians have made careers out of this. Is it any wonder that yet another white supremacist has murdered muslims and has received praise for doing so by keyboard warriors on various platforms.

I (and most muslims in the West) have been dealing with the aftermath of 9/11 by being held responsible for every terrorist atrocity. Dealing with knee-jerk reactions and responses became the norm for me since then. Every terror attack, grooming ring, extremist preacher became my responsibility to explain, condemn and apologise for. I was asked why muslims don’t put double-page ads in the paper to apologise and condemn. I was told that I shouldn’t be surprised at the hostility towards muslims because the few give everyone a bad name.

So here I am, wondering if those people (all white) who were quick to vilify my religion and me and demanded an apology and explanation for the latest newspaper headline will now explain today’s headlines to me. Will they explain why white people do this? Will they give me a full breakdown of his manifesto, explain each name listed on the white terrorist’s guns, explain the choice of music on the video, explain why he filmed it, explain why he had so much support (white terrorist supported by other whites, therefore all whites must be terrorists) and take out ads in national papers apologising for being white. After all it was a white person who did this and just like all muslims were held accountable, will all whites be held accountable too?

Sweetlittlepug

Your missing the point that the manifesto of the NZ attack was in essence a continuation of retaliation, if you ignore the shitposting side (read the bellingcat article I posted earlier), the op is the opposite side of the coin of saying we have an extreme Muslim problem.

Both sides are being played when situations become politicesd, don't see many crys of groomed,brainwashed,or let down by the system.

This, with today's news shows the oppression stack of IDpol.

The 'woke' pretending racism against whites is not a thing are even behind the upcoming left in the US FFS, that shows how following the herd the situation is

I think anyone interested in NZ & white supremacy, should read this

No they shouldn't, it's an op ed.

What you should do is read this an apply critical thinking into why it's becoming an issue

www.bellingcat.com/news/rest-of-world/2019/03/15/shitposting-inspirational-terrorism-and-the-christchurch-mosque-massacre/

No they shouldn't, it's an op ed.

Don’t tell me about my country. Are you Māori? Regardless of whether it’s an op ed or not, everything about it is accurate. Don’t dismiss indigenous views thank you very much.

This thread is the worst.

It’s not ‘becoming an issue’ moron, it’s always been an issue in NZ. Always. The target is different, the problems the same.

Right day off, so had a glass of wine.
Imagine there’s no blokes in the picture.
As a woman do you really look at a woman of another race and feel ..well ..anything? I’m not a fan of burkas or tattoos but I’ve yet to met a woman from “ somewhere else” or “ different lifestyle” and not found something in common. And truly, I am horribly opinionated.

Is this not actually something men have contrived?

Justanotherlurker, who are you to tell others what to read and what not to read

I will definitely be reading that link she has provided.

Just want to say, I was absolutely blown away and touched by the Haka I saw on the BBC news website, performed by children. It looks truly awesome and exudes solidarity.

As a woman do you really look at a woman of another race and feel ..well ..anything?
I don’t but I have personally met very racist women. It’s unfortunately not an issue that’s confined to men.

A group of white women circled my mother, spat at her and mocked our culture. In the middle of the streets of NZ. Maybe they don’t commit large scale terrorist attacks, but like the article says, there is more than one way to hurt people.

jessica I'm a kiwi, from a white family. I'm so aware that racism, especially towards Maori is a huge issue.

I've grown up in the UK and there is such a lack of understanding and denial about the impact of empire in the UK. Even talking just about commonwealth countries, its very clear that some are considered differently than others, white, English first language immigration is always fine but otherwise... I feel so angry and helpless about it. It could not be more clear to me that we are the same. That we have more in common than differences.

And yet... I've had some bad experiences as an immigrant, but they are nothing in comparison to what bme friends have experienced.

Because of racism. Because that's what makes me different to them. Even though they are often, genetically and legally, more British than I am.

And I get angry when people say it's all because of the patriarchy, just like when people say sexism will be solved by class war. These things are not one of the other. Racism, by itself, is a huge problem in every country touched by empire and an imperial past that praised and promoted one group over another. It doesn't go away because most white people don't see it. I think I am lucky to have had a parent that made a huge effort to make sure we learned about and respected Maori culture.

I'm so sorry for the things you and your mother have been through. I hope you have people you can talk to face to face.

That’s awful @JessicaWakefieldSVH

Of course there has always been racism in NZ. We have been complacent. Remember Taika Waititi saying “NZ is fucking racist” and everyone howled with indignation?

This whole event has been horrifying and has made me take a good hard look at the comfortable Pakeha bubble I bob along in.

SushiGo

Thank you for your kindness, it means a lot right now

Gennz18 thank you too. Taika was very brave to say that, I suspect he expected the reaction he got.

For something horrible but also positive. My lovely English friend living in NZ walked past a building site of this company, reported it to a newspaper and to police. It had been operating some time and nobody has said anything, maybe this horrible tragedy will mean people don’t walk past stuff like this and look the other way anymore:

i.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111410111/nazithemed-company-owner-charged-with-possessing-objectionable-material

jessica

Yes, I agree, Taiki knew!

I hope we can learn from this massacre. I hope we can continue to show solidarity with each other, on the principles of dignity and respect for human life. I hope we can stand up for each other’s rights. There is so much kindness, solidarity and unity coming from New Zealand, it is heart warming. I hope we can build on that and wipe out the scourge of white supremacy that has had a grip over the world for centuries. I am humbled and touched by the solidarity shown by people of all colours - white or POC. We cannot let those who want to divide us, win. They will keep winning if we continue to create divisions and maintain inequalities.

Jessica’s posts have had a profound effect on me. I am learning more about Māori and they are absolutely amazing, resilient people. I am shocked and saddened by her experiences, but sadly not surprised. We are all whanau and we must look out for each other, call out racism and wipe out injustice wherever we see it. Kia Kaha.

Thank you SushiGo and Jessica for your contributions. They make sense to me.

Ethno-religious conflict is a feature of human history & will be a part of our future. Just read the quran and the bible. If you thought policies of globalisation and mass immigration were going to produce peace and tranquillity then you don't understand human nature. All people have group identities and when the economy collapses it will only get worse. In times of relative wealth it will only be the social misfits committing group selected violence. As misfits they see it as the only way to help their group maintain genetic & cultural predominance on its land. When Western Europeans really start waking up to the demographic reality & the dysfunction entailed by that I suspect things will get very ugly. It will look like the Lebanon.