To think teachers shouldn't be drinking on trips?

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Dc just back from trip overseas. Apparently as soon as they were in their rooms the teachers went to the hotel bar. (The kids snuck down to check on them so they could all go into each other's rooms).Were also drinking wine and cocktails at dinner (before walking kids around an overseas city for an hour to their hotel at 11pm)

Is this normal? In charge of 13yr olds?

I'm sure @Beniejayney you will find places on training courses if you think teachers have such a great time of it.

No i couldn't bare to work in a profession that is full of self pity and poor me attitude. Some of them ought to try working in the real world and see how they get on.

There should always be sober members of staff on a trip.

Again motherofcreek I would be sober. One glass of wine doesn’t make me drunk!

Ah. The real world
Classic teacher bashing lazy cliché. Do try harder.

try working in the real world
Bingo!!!!

mother

Are there thousands of reports of dreadful things happening on a daily basis because of drunk teachers on school trips?

No.

Why do you think that is?

My DCs have been on many school trips overseas thanks to dedicated teachers. To be honest I haven't given it a second thought about whether or not they had an alcoholic drink in the evenings - I trust them with my DCs or they wouldn't be going so whether or not they have alcohol is nothing I need to worry about - I trust them to make the right judgement call.

Beniejaney *

No i couldn't bare to work in a profession that is full of self pity and poor me attitude.

In other words its ok for you to bitch at teachers but not for them to defend themselves.

Some of them ought to try working in the real world and see how they get on

Only someone that had no idea about teaching would post such drivel.

This trip to sunny downtown Homs must have been educationally very important to the students.
I’m sure they all learned some excellent hand-to-hand close combat skills, to put into practice whilst roaming around at 23:00 hours. The camouflage makeup tutorial was a light-hearted little addition to the day, after the tension of the interrogation rehearsal, in case of a capture and hostage situation.

I think the addition of alcohol could only add to the skills training, so that there was a bit less fearful, more risk-taking attempts in the parkour section of the city tour. I guess you land better when you’re less tense.

I’m sure the return air fare was less, due to losing a few of the party, before heading home.

And, once again, we have descended into teacher bashing: ‘real world’. Didn’t realise I wasn’t in the real one!

How do teachers' holidays (don't start me on the 13 weeks paid nonsense) have any relevance to this story?
I honestly don't know why teachers can be bothered with the grief of taking pupils on school trips nowadays. If my ds had told me he'd been spying on the teachers in the hotel bar when he was supposed to be in bed, I'd have been angry with him. He was the one who was out of order.

ASauvignonADay
so is there a difference in teachers and pastoral staff when it comes to responsibilities and rules around drinking? Because there is literally no difference. Same responsibilities and same rules.

I agree. But as i said my comment was in reference to teachers paid holidays

Here’s a tip for you op. If your child ever wants to go on a trip with limited places which are allocated by means of names in a hat, save your ink on the reply slip. I can almost guarantee their name will never be drawn.

I think had there been an incident where by a child suffered because all adults were too intoxicated to help then you would have a case. But there hasn’t been. You base your judgements on the gossip of a thirteen year old. A 13 year old who has likely agreed not to leave their room. Well they lied about that so I’m not sure I’d trust what they are reporting.

As previously said we don't get paid holidays. We get paid pro rata every month based on the days we are in school.

“Also they might have had one glass each and my 11 yo and her mates would dramatise it up to being pissed out of your head. Especially if their mums were shocked”

Yep.

I have heard ours and friends kids talk like this about us and their parents after get togethers, and actually none of us was doing anything other than very modest drinking.

And I can remember being like this about teachers on a geography trip when I was at school, just because it was such a novelty even seeing a teacher out of school. Oooh, the edgy glamour!

Good for them. They probably need it after spending all day with the children. They aren't paid any extra and are more often than not giving up a lot of their free time (which they could spend with their family) to give your little Prince or princess the opportunity offered.

And this is why no teachers volunteer to go on trips any more.

I hope you tell your child off, OP, for sneaking around at night after he's been told to stay in his room. Who knows what might have happened to him!

However, OP, obviously if you think there was a safeguarding risk you do need to talk to the school.

More to the point, why did you allow your DC to go to a ‘dangerous city’?
How irresponsible

BoneyBackJefferson

In other words its ok for you to bitch at teachers but not for them to defend themselves.

The teachers (as always) were out in full on poor me mode long before I came along.

Only someone that had no idea about teaching would post such drivel.

I know more than enough. I don't deny teachers work hard in their own way, but I really cant bare reading how difficult they have it constantly. You get paid a wage, just crack on with it and stop thinking you're so hard done to.

I've worked as a teacher as well as many years outside education. Teaching was a lot more stressful. So @Beniejanie you can take your uninformed comments and stuff them.

Beniejaney

What is your job?

And @Beniejaney people who post drivel like you have make me profoundly glad I'm well out of teaching.
I know enough. I doubt you know anything.

My kids still accuse me of being drunk one New Years Eve because I called out happy new year to some police in the car next to us. I hadn't had a single drop of alcohol and was driving.

I wouldn't believe everything you are told OP - how on earth do the students know what was in every glass?

I’m not moaning about my wage as I’m about to get a pay rise. So more for me.
It’s not accurate though to say teachers get no paid holiday, that would be illegal, but they are only paid for some of the time the schools are closed for.