To think teachers shouldn't be drinking on trips?

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Dc just back from trip overseas. Apparently as soon as they were in their rooms the teachers went to the hotel bar. (The kids snuck down to check on them so they could all go into each other's rooms).Were also drinking wine and cocktails at dinner (before walking kids around an overseas city for an hour to their hotel at 11pm)

Is this normal? In charge of 13yr olds?

We went on a trip over new year. All 14-18, our teachers allowed the younger ones a drink to celebrate the new year and the older ones several drinks. Everyone told their parents, and all parents said the same ‘as long as you listened, didn’t misbehave and get too drunk. This was a excellent (and still is) catholic high school.

My ds’s have been on several trips and one is going again next year. I don’t blame the teachers for having a drink to wind down. They won’t get roaring drunk and at least one doesn’t drink each night. They give up their free time, away from their family, and take a load of teenagers away for a week or so. How many parents get wound up about organising family trip?! Teachers deserve a drink each night, I don’t have a problem at all with it.

I'd be more bothered that my 13 year old was sneaking out of their room and spying on teachers. You might want to teach your Dc some respect.

Do teachers pay anything towards their travel & hotel expenses when escorting children on school trips?
I bloody hope not !

I doubt they would drink to excess , even if they did ,I suspect they would only do it once after having to look after 40 odd kids with a hangover

I get paid a wage, but it isn't enough to continue put up with attitudes like yours Janey. I'm leaving in the summer, along with thousands of others. You know nothing about teaching or you wouldn't be spouting drivel about the 'real world'.

Recently I've sat with a child whose mum has terminal cancer and another who is panicking about his dad being released from prison (dad murdered mum when the boy was a toddler), another is being moved to a new foster care placement and can't cope whilst a fourth faced her abuser in court. This is a 'naice ' school in an affluent area. So take your 'not in the real world' bollocks and shove it up your arse.

I'm also here to find out which dangerous city they're taking kids to these days...

ilovesooty And @Beniejaney people who post drivel like you have make me profoundly glad I'm well out of teaching.

Truth hurts hey

ome of them ought to try working in the real world and see how they get on

I worked in the ‘real world’ for over 20 years before teaching. The real world is far easier. And no one blinks an eye if you have a glass of wine after a long day.

Beniejaney

The teachers (as always) were out in full on poor me mode long before I came along.

On a thread whining about teachers.

I know more than enough.

Just by what you are posting, I doubt it,

You get paid a wage, just crack on with it and stop thinking you're so hard done to

I don't think that I am hard done to (by), But I really think that people that spout drivel have no clue.

Beniejaney
What is your job?

Truth?
As I said I've worked for years outside teaching as well. You're just posting like an ignorant GF. Anyone with a modicum of awareness or intelligence would, unlike you, be embarrassed.

SmileEachDay - What is your job?

A nurse

She won't tell you what her job is. GFs like her never do.

smile I’d prefer not to take the risk tbh.

I was a sports couch for over ten years years and I just wouldn’t have taken the risk.

Honestly if you can’t get through a night with out a drink you seriously have an issue.

Maybe it would be more honest if request slips stated ..

‘Whilst on this trip the teachers in charge may drink alcohol in the evening’

Just to see the response they got..

I just did ilovesooty

I’ve never been a nurse.

I know people who are nurses. I’ve been in hospital. My child has been in hospital. But, I’ve never been a nurse.

I won’t comment on how hard it is as a job.

Oh, she has. Surprise surprise.

Nursing is bloody hard I imagine. I don't see how you are able to assess a teacher's job as easier than yours though.

If you went to Tesco after school on a Friday before a d of e weekend you would, without fail, see one on the teachers nipping round with a trolley full of beans, beer and wine. Always made me smile.

It is ridiculous to suggest that a kid lurking and peeking through the door to the bar can have done a full inventory of who was drinking what: lemonade / g&t/ wine etc.

And then reported it accurately to the others who were going in each other’s rooms.

If course the teachers went to the bar: it is generally the most comfortable communal space in a hotel in an evening, so they would go ther to relax.

Can you IMAGINE the 13 yos reporting that teachers were in each other’s rooms in the evening If they socialised in rooms?

Motherofcreek

Maybe it would be more honest if request slips stated ..
‘Whilst on this trip the teachers in charge may drink alcohol in the evening’
Just to see the response they got..

Maybe it would be more honest if request slips stated...

"Teachers are not your au-pair, nanny or childminder and are taking time away from their family and deserve some down time. At all times teacher/pupils ratios will be observed. Remember to thank the staff for providing your child with this opportunity."

Just to see what response they get...

‘ but I really cant bare reading’

That much is obvious, Beniejaney

Exactly Smile

Some of us are sufficiently respectful of other professions not to have the poor manners to denigrate them.

I've haven't compared teaching to nursing. If you read my comments I did state that i know teachers work hard but my issue with them is that so many complain about how hard they have it and don't seem to acknowledge the perks of their job. And I think they should be able to go on a trip for a few days without drinking alcohol. Whether being paid or not, they are there in a professional capacity and are responsible for children.

Is this sort of thing which made me stop volunteering for school trips - and I don't even drink.

How do you know what they were drinking, or if alcohol how much? I often go to the bar with colleagues, I drink non-alcoholic drinks, many drink wine spritzers, it's often the only communal area available or the most comfortable in a number of environments.

But interesting to see a new-ish variation on teacher-bashing.