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To think teachers shouldn't be drinking on trips?

627 replies

Newyeardontcare · 15/03/2019 20:31

Dc just back from trip overseas. Apparently as soon as they were in their rooms the teachers went to the hotel bar. (The kids snuck down to check on them so they could all go into each other's rooms).Were also drinking wine and cocktails at dinner (before walking kids around an overseas city for an hour to their hotel at 11pm)

Is this normal? In charge of 13yr olds?

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ilovesooty · 15/03/2019 22:27

Good grief. There are some brainless comments from the teacher bashers here.

BoneyBackJefferson · 15/03/2019 22:27

Motherofcreek
So at pick up on Monday afternoon and your kids teacher had a bottle of bud in her hand you would be ok?

the strawman has arrived, does anyone want to buy him a beer?

HotpotLawyer · 15/03/2019 22:29

“walked them through a dangerous city at 11pm...

Really? A dangerous city? Dangerous?

My organisation takes kids away on trips. There is a rota for on / off duty and those on duty don’t drink.

Trips away are a big thrill for kids, partly because they get to spend time with teachers in a less formal environment.

And I have seen kids become quite heady about the idea of ‘we saw miss have a cocktail...they were drunk...mr C in his slippers “ etc.

Obviously teachers actually drunk, none able to take full and proper responsibility etc is unacceptable.

But tell us more about the dangerous city they went to.

goingtotown · 15/03/2019 22:29

Do teachers pay anything towards their travel & hotel expenses when escorting children on school trips?

Motherofcreek · 15/03/2019 22:29

If my child was on a school trip - I’d hope that the people that volunteered to go could keep there need for alcohol in check for a day or two till their charges got home safe.

Then they can go and get pissed.*

I find this remark offensive. I am a veteran or many school trips and I don't drink alcohol. For that reason I am frequently one of the adults having to sort out late night misbehavers among the pupils

My point proven. One sober adult ..

AnyOldPrion · 15/03/2019 22:29

Pretty sure when I was at school, lots of the used to pop over the road to have lunch in the bar most Fridays...

Dermymc · 15/03/2019 22:30

Do teachers pay anything towards their travel & hotel expenses when escorting children on school trips?

No. Because its not a holiday.

Tunnockswafer · 15/03/2019 22:31

See Benniejanie I don’t do trips abroad and yet am paid exactly the same as the poor sods who do. We don’t have to do trips.

HotpotLawyer · 15/03/2019 22:31

“So much judgement based on the amazing powers of observation of a 13 year old who was out of his room when told not to be. “

This.

Beniejaney · 15/03/2019 22:31

@ASauvignonADay comment was replying to OP about teachers not pastoral staff so obviously not relevant to you. Hope you had a nice time st the residential

ilovesooty · 15/03/2019 22:32

@goingtotown do you pay to go to work?

SmileEachDay · 15/03/2019 22:32

Do teachers pay anything towards their travel & hotel expenses when escorting children on school trips

Don’t panic. The taxpayer won’t have been paying for the alcohol.

cardibach · 15/03/2019 22:32

going it depends - usually travel companies will provide free places for teachers as none of the children will go if they don’t...
Not sure why it matters though really - they are working. Do you know of any profession who has to pay to go on a work trip? They are working, not on holiday.

TheZeppo · 15/03/2019 22:33

Motherofcreek

Erm, pick up on Monday after school isn’t remotely the same as the evening of a school trip.

Which I suspect you know!

BoneyBackJefferson · 15/03/2019 22:33

Motherofcreek

My point proven. One sober adult ..

You get that from

I am frequently one of the adults having

which clearly states more than one.

Beniejaney · 15/03/2019 22:33

See Benniejanie I don’t do trips abroad and yet am paid exactly the same as the poor sods who do. We don’t have to do trips.

Perks of the job I suppose

AnyWalls · 15/03/2019 22:33

Quite the tittle tattle you're rearing.

ilovesooty · 15/03/2019 22:33

I'm sure @Beniejayney you will find places on training courses if you think teachers have such a great time of it.

Tunnockswafer · 15/03/2019 22:34

goingintotown if I had been drinking tonight I’d tell you where to shove your ignorant comments. Does the coach driver pay for his own ferry crossing? Do the waiter pay for the privilege of standing in the restaurant. Get tae fuck.

ASauvignonADay · 15/03/2019 22:34

@Beniejaney so is there a difference in teachers and pastoral staff when it comes to responsibilities and rules around drinking? Because there is literally no difference. Same responsibilities and same rules.

donquixotedelamancha · 15/03/2019 22:35

Do teachers pay anything towards their travel & hotel expenses when escorting children on school trips?

What, do they pay their own money to look after a bunch of kids for free? No.

Still interested in the ‘dangerous’ city.

I'll be Idlib. We are off next week with Y7. The alcohol seeking bombs are a real issue so OP is right to advise no drinking.

ConferencePear · 15/03/2019 22:35

MotherofCreek are you deliberately misunderstanding my post. I said I was one of the adults on late night duty.
Some of the remarks and attitudes shown on this thread are one of the reasons I'm an ex-teacher.

Motherofcreek · 15/03/2019 22:37

zeppo if you volunteer to look after a group of kid the least you can do is stay sober.

Can you imagine the fall out of something terrible happened and it was found most of the teachers were half pissed?

Tunnockswafer · 15/03/2019 22:37

Benniejaney hahaha. Yes it is, along with the perk of paying for my own stationery and printing, and of course the joyous perk of all the unpaid overtime. You’re so right.

TheZeppo · 15/03/2019 22:37

goingtotown I’d bung twenty quid in the kitty if that meant it was officially a holiday and I could clock off for half an hour for a glass of wine!

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