To think teachers shouldn't be drinking on trips?

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Dc just back from trip overseas. Apparently as soon as they were in their rooms the teachers went to the hotel bar. (The kids snuck down to check on them so they could all go into each other's rooms).Were also drinking wine and cocktails at dinner (before walking kids around an overseas city for an hour to their hotel at 11pm)

Is this normal? In charge of 13yr olds?

Comparing a parent having a drink in their own home is completely different to a teacher drinking on a school trip in a foreign country

So children in their own homes never need attention or support during the night? There is never a home emergency or other kind of emergency where the child may need to depend on their parents? Or is it the case that parents - like teachers - are capable of recognising how much is too much and police themselves accordingly?

Regardless, children won’t be able to go on these trips soon as there are fewer and fewer teachers willing to put up with this nonsense.

They do it for the children's sakes, that's why.

I refuse to do them now apart from my subject ones.

I'm not getting paid for them. I will therefore drink wine at home in the evening. With my husband, who I barely see half the year.

Racked up 54 hours this week. Am I bollocks taking kids anywhere for no pay any more. Bloody Alton towers summer day trip is bad enough 🍷

The one glass of wine probably lead them to being strung out and trying to score crack on a corner in this 'dangerous city' which isnt that 'dangerous' as you can't go out after dark in those places, let alone walking through it at 11pm.

You sound a bit sheltered and the kids sound like they should have stayed in their rooms as told. Don't let your child go in future

Exactly - the children have a good time, life changing in some cases, and that actually matters to us.

Then they can go and get pissed.

I think any regular on here knows there is a number if tea totallers on here with very prohibition Type ideals, but when it gets to the level of someone having a glass of wine with their evening meal " needs" alcohol and is getting pissed, then that's simply odd. It's one thing to not drink, but to either have no concept of it, or some form of hysteria over it is disturbing,

Do these people not understand that a glass of wine is not a lot of alcohol, you can still even drive safely, never mind escort some kid round Syria or whatever dangerous city the ops kid clearly was.

CanILeavenowplease I didn't say it was without risks. But it is a totally different comparison to teachers on a schopl trip.

As I said Beniejaney if you're so jealous of the holidays you can retrain. Since you aren't prepared to I don't see why you're labouring the point.

And what constitutes your knowing enough? I'm sure we'd find it interesting.

Janey, I hate to say it, but you're sounding a bit poor me and whiny.

Get a grip, teachers are human

So at pick up on Monday afternoon and your kids teacher had a bottle of bud in her hand you would be ok?

How in the name of da fuq is that even remotely comparable?!
Teacher has a glass, maybe two glasses of wine on an evening on a week away with them when they're supposed to be in bed and not pissing about..
As opposed to standing at the school gates with a bottle of Bud in her hand

boney it’s perfectly acceptable to expect the teachers looking after your child to be sober.

Anything else lis just an excuse to drink alcohol really - and if you truly cannot give it up for a night or two then maybe trips are not for you ??

Ok lime at pick up a teacher has a glass of wine in her hand ...

ilovesooty i like my job. I take the rough with the smooth and get on with it. So wouldn't leave just for the holidays, I mean teachers don't really sell their profession do they.

Perhaps schools should send letter home saying that they expect parents to abstain when looking after their pupils?

ilovesooty i have x 2 family members as teachers and numerous friends. Plus 3 DC eo have plenty of contact to hear / see what its all about.

No we don’t sell the profession, there is a major recruitment and retention crisis so let’s not make things worse by slagging off the existing teachers at every opportunity?

I have friends who are nurses and I've had several spells in different hospitals. I have more professional respect than to make out I'm qualified to make derogatory comments about nurses' pay and conditions.

Tunnockswafer maybe it teachers themselves shared more of the positive sides of their roles it would help. Even though teachers have primarily been defending themselves in this thread, its a common theme on here / social media in general, that teachers complain+++ about their role.

There is literally no excuse for complaining. If you don't want your child being cared for (overnight when they should be in bed anyway) by someone who might have had a glass of wine or two then never ever send them to be looked after overnight by anyone else and never have a glass of wine yourself. If you do want them to have the benefit of going on trips abroad having sleepovers at their friend's houses, maybe even going on holiday with their friends then you'll have to accept that the adult in charge may have a glass of wine or two in the evening. If this isn't acceptable to you fine but your kid doesn't get to go.

Why would the teacher have a glass of wine in her hand at pick up? Not much joy to be had in drinking wine surrounded by kids in a chilly playground. Or am I missing the point?

Even though teachers have primarily been defending themselves in this thread, its a common theme on here / social media in general, that teachers complain+++ about their role.

So if a teacher is unhappy about their working conditions they should keep their mouths shut about it, pretend their role is easy going and constantly rewarding so we can solve the retention crises? Do you not think we as a society have a responsibility to offer teachers more support and actually improve the job rather than expecting teachers to lie about it?

Any teacher stupid enough to have a glass of wine in their hand at pick up should expect to be sacked. Ridiculous analogy.

ilovesooty and thats relevant because . . . .

i rarely read threads on here from teachers complaining about their jobs. Parents complain about all kinds of daft stuff. Teachers defend themselves and then are accused of moaning.

Beniejaney if you're incapable of comprehending my point I really don't think I can be bothered to explain to you.