To think teachers shouldn't be drinking on trips?

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Dc just back from trip overseas. Apparently as soon as they were in their rooms the teachers went to the hotel bar. (The kids snuck down to check on them so they could all go into each other's rooms).Were also drinking wine and cocktails at dinner (before walking kids around an overseas city for an hour to their hotel at 11pm)

Is this normal? In charge of 13yr olds?

Can your kid tell the difference between a vodka and coke and......coke?

Or I dunno.....a g&t and the non-alcoholic g&t I drink? Same glass, ice etc but no booze. I prefer the non booze ones but to everything in the pub it must loon like I've knocked back four and got in the car, when there's not s drop of alcohol in there.

I'm old enough to remember buying my teachers a pint on a sixth form trip....

Oh right, Benie, as a parent you never drink alcohol when in charge of your children, then?

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You do know this is a forum right? Where people have opinions? (They might not always be the same as yours but that's just life)

Beniejaney

You actually said “I know that work hard in their way” perhaps I misunderstood the implication.

You also said “I know enough* to comment.

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donquixote

BIL PE teacher has been on at least a dozen school ski trips to Italy, France & Austria. He had ski lessons on the first two trips. He brags what a fantastic time he’s had & always looks forward to the next trip.

Beniejaney nice slithering attempt to excuse your poor manners.

Beniejaney

If someone came on here whinging about nurses and how good they had it, or how shit they were, I would be backing the nurses as my limited experience tells me that they work hard, and if they were on the thread they would have every right to defend themselves, and not be accused of being hard done by.

But it seems that that courtesy only goes one way.

Actually, can the reply slip read:

Teachers are paid a set amount of hours per year, unfortunately this does not include trips. If you wish this trip to go ahead, please supply:
Yourself (for hours outside of the school day)
Your au pair/ nanny/ childcare
Contribution costs for childcare whilst abroad

CanILeavenowplease Oh right, Benie, as a parent you never drink alcohol when in charge of your children, then?

Personally no. However I wouldn't judge another parent for having the odd drink (not intoxicated) when in charge of their child. Comparing a parent having a drink in their own home is completely different to a teacher drinking on a school trip in a foreign country IMO

goingtotown good for him. I'm glad he feels that giving his own time is worthwhile.

goingtotown

Ummm. Ok? I’m pleased for him? Not sure what your point is?

Doesn’t really tackle the drinking issue does it boney - and yes if my child is on a school trip I expect them to be all those things.

I wouldn’t expect my school age child to be completely responsible for them selves - that’s what the responsible adult is for.

goingtotown

BIL PE teacher has been on at least a dozen school ski trips to Italy, France & Austria. He had ski lessons on the first two trips. He brags what a fantastic time he’s had & always looks forward to the next trip.

Why wouldn't he "brag", I know teachers that have run the same trips year in and year out. They love doing them.

Personally no. However I wouldn't judge another parent for having the odd drink (not intoxicated) when in charge of their child. Comparing a parent having a drink in their own home is completely different to a teacher drinking on a school trip in a foreign country IMO

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Oh my god. There isn't a drinking issue.

I'm a teacher and I can't believe the number of people saying it's normal.

If I drank on a trip I'd be sacked. There's a county wide directive that it's prohibited.

zeppo No one is forcing these trips.

You're pissed off about teachers drinking yet you allowed your child to visit this dangerous city??

Motherofcreek

Doesn’t really tackle the drinking issue does it

Actually it does as it contains the words "At all times teacher/pupils ratios will be observed" which would be the legal requirement.

As for expecting teachers to be all of those things all of the time you are out of luck, because even if the teachers didn't have a drink they would still be allowed to leave the hotel/hostel/chalet compound to do their own thing as they are off duty and other would be on duty. It really isn't hard to understand.

But if you are intent on getting your panties in a bunch about this, then your children will never go on an overnight trip with the school.

Ds went on a school trip. A teacher went in to check on them with a bottle of wine in one hand and a glass in the other. Anyway after opening the door she promptly started sliding down the wall whilst pouring another glass of wine I found it funny

I’m a nurse too. I’ve been puked on, peed on, sat with people as they die and threatened in the course of my work.
I still wouldn’t want to be a teacher!
I don’t see any issue with people who aren’t being paid to be there having a glass of wine or two in the evening.

I don’t think any teachers are saying they can’t have a good time on a trip? Just that it is not a holiday, it’s hard work and tiring.

Motherofcreek
No one is forcing these trips.

Really! Any school that wishes to be good or outstanding would have to provide trips.

It was brought in as so many schools ditched the trips as it was/is such a thankless task.

You’re right, no one forces them. We tend to do them because we give a crap about our kids, and love letting them see new things around the world.

But we get scrutinised to fuck by our own management for every single thing we do in school. I’ll be damned if I’m taking it in my own free time (which is what school trips are!) all because I can’t have a single solitary glass of Sauvignon.

Of course they have a good time, why else would they go. At least some of it must be enjoyable otherwise they wouldnt give their free time etc... all the comments about it being their free time, not getting paid. Its just hard to feel sorry for them lnowing most jobs get 4-6 weeks holidays and teachers get 13 . . . So whats a couple of days