To ask if you would support a second referendum and what would you vote?

[questabellatreetop]

As the title says really, along with whether or not your vote would be different from last time.

I would vote remain again.

I think a second vote is justified due to the fact that so many people had no clue what they were actually voting for last time! Or rather, what the actual outcome of that vote would be in real terms.

I'd vote to leave the UK again in a second referendum.

Oh "THAT" second referendum? I'd still be voting to stay in the EU.

Would you all support a 2nd vote if the result was to remain last time?

You can't have another vote just because you don't like the answer.

I would vote the same way I did last time though.

@FenellaMaxwell

But surely they get sent on Peacekeeping missions by the UN already?

I would support a second referendum, and would vote remain.
The vote leave campaign breached electoral law. On that basis, the result is fundamentally flawed.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/11/leaveeu-fined-70k-breaches-of-electoral-law-eu-referendum?CMP=share_btn_tw

Yes and I'd vote remain again. The point of a second referendum is to give the electorate options now we now more about the implications and how things have planned out. It's not undemocratic to have a second referendum and possibly reverse the decision - referenda are advisory only anyway. It it sensible to allow a reconsideration instead of ploughing ahead with a bad decision. I include the inability to negotiate a deal as ploughing ahead with a bad decision.

Panned out, not planned

Yes and I would vote remain again but I think the questions would have to be clearer and more options and there would have to be something in the text about the result having a certain percentage majority to avoid the same situation in reverse ( ie a small percentage win being labelled ' the will of the people' ( the will of a v small majority of the people) maybe options 1 and 2 to give a proper view of what people really want.

I’ve left the U.K. but would return to vote the same as first time - remain (DH will be doing the same - DCs are still in the U.K. and are also remainders)

Remainers!! Sorry late here and am a bit squiffy!!

The only people on here and in RL who are calling for a second referendum are those who voted remain the first time and see this as an opportunity to overturn the initial decision.

I do get really fed up hearing how I didn't know what I was voting for. I did. I am not stupid. I made a decision and I expect it to be honoured.

However this is playing out exactly as the EU want it to and have planned it. if a country votes for something and they vote "the wrong way" they just get sent back to vote again and this time get the right answer.

the eu will be doing everything it can to encourage a re-vote. The outcome figures will be broadly similar 48 - 52 or thereabouts one way or the other. There isn't suddenly going to be a 70 - 30 vote on this and a further referendum will be massively more damaging for business. Yes, remoaners, even more damaging than leaving the EU.

I would accept a second referendum if they outlined exactly what we were voting for. So the terms of remain and the terms of leave.

The truth is though they can't because they have no idea where the EU is heading so who knows what "remain" even means?

And no remainers can answer that. All I see is it means to stay the same, except it doesn't, or that we can veto, except there are reports showing that the EU doesn't need to ask members or take a vote on some issues. So what is "remain"?

Maybe I can be convinced if there are decent arguments to support it.

God no to setting a minimum percentage necessary to carry the vote if there's a second referendum! Those of us who voted remain have put up with two years of shite and uncertainty due to it being a simple majority last time (what an apt phrase) I damn well won't accept a minimum percentage majority being applied to a second vote. That would be undemocratic. It takes 27 weeks to organise a referendum btw.

mummymeister

I agree. This has been the intention of the EU (and May too I shouldn't be surprised) to make such a mess of it that when it comes to it we will accept the revoking of A 50 without fuss.

@Weetabixandshreddies - solve the UK/Irish border issue so that we
a) leave in a GFA compatible way; and
b) don't leave via WA?
Or is that for politicians to sort. In the fabulous way they have been managing so far.

Yes @Spiderbanana. That’s exactly my point.

Yes, I fully support the idea of another people's vote, and would vote the same (remain) again. Bring it on!

*I would accept a second referendum if they outlined exactly what we were voting for. So the terms of remain and the terms of leave.

The truth is though they can't because they have no idea where the EU is heading so who knows what "remain" even means?*

But that is the same for everything. I like Dairy Milk but one day they might make it with ginger in so at that point I make a decision as to whether to stop buying it.

Leaving the EU is always an option for every country. If we don't leave now we could in 10 or 20 years. But to put ourselves at a very tangible risk because of something which may or may not happen in the future is taking very drastic action.

The future of the EU is relatively predictable because it operated within a well documented framework. Brexit is a total dive into the unknown.

wowfudge so you wont accept the first referendum but if there is a second one and the vote goes your way even by one vote then you will accept it and it will be democratic.

and you cant see the problem with this?

why do so many remainers not see how ridiculous this position is. You voted remain with the same amount of information that people voted leave had? do you have some sort of special intelligence or super powers then that made you "know" more than anyone else?

It was a free vote. one side got more votes than the other. it therefore won the vote.

I will say it again. the ONLY people asking for a second referendum are the remoaners. And the only reason you are asking for it is because you lost.

Leaving the EU is always an option for every country. If we don't leave now we could in 10 or 20 years. But to put ourselves at a very tangible risk because of something which may or may not happen in the future is taking very drastic action.
Except for the UK it would seem which cannot leave because of the GFA, it would appear. That means that we are trapped in the EU no matter what?

I have a very strong belief that an EU army and a USE will happen. I am strongly opposed to that.

Assure me that I am wrong.

FenellaMaxwell

But the UN operates with the agreement with each of the member states and the individual states control how many troops are provided etc.

The EU couldn't conscript our soldiers into an EU army. It would require the agreement of the queen (obviously via our government)

Plus there are countries such as Austria who signed agreements of perpetual neutrality.

It really isn't going to happen

I accept the result of the first referendum . Which was advisory. I don't want a second referendum if No Deal is on it. But if it is the only way to move forward then bring it on.
Wittering on about Remoaners just sounds like being a bad winner who has run out of ideas.

And where would we be if the vote was leave again?

I was Euro sceptic before the initial vote & that hasn't changed. I hate how polarising Brexit has been. The vitriol here & on social media disgusts me.

The vote was leave, let's get on with it as best we can. It was never going to be easy to transition but going back to the EU & having to suck up yet more unpalatable decisions doesn't not sit well with me & it could . Theoretically we should be able to easily trade & be allies in the future while being separate from the EU. We need politicians to step up & I desperately want people to stop complaining about the leave vote & blaming here & there & everywhere. There should have been an exit plan when we joined the EU. Therein began the cockup.

@buckeejit - do you support WA. That's the "get on with it" option. I accept it as the least worst Leave option.