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To ask if you would support a second referendum and what would you vote?

350 replies

questabellatreetop · 13/03/2019 23:03

As the title says really, along with whether or not your vote would be different from last time.

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Jenniferyellowcat · 14/03/2019 10:28

Ps I would vote remain (again). If that is the question.

YogaDrone · 14/03/2019 10:34

I would vote in a second referendum and I would vote remain again.

But I don't want a second referendum, but then I didn't want the first one either.

In my constituency there was a large remain majority and yet our MP is a staunch Brexiteer and would love nothing more than a no deal Brexit. How is that representing his constituents? The whole thing is a total farce.

I can't see an alternative except to withdraw Article 50 and then have a general election with all parties CLEARLY setting out their Brexit (or remain) policy so that we know what we're voting for.

WhatTheWatersShowedMe · 14/03/2019 10:37

Yes, I'd support a 2nd referendum. I voted Remain the first time and would do so again.

stillpinching · 14/03/2019 10:50

Philip Hammond hinting that @Geoffrey_Cox will start taking account of other legal opinion to help him to evolve his legal opinion...to help him help the DUP to evolve their legal opinion

Anyone who thinks that the above, referenced from PH's interview on Today this morning, is democratic behaviour but a second ref isn't has a very different definition of democracy from one I would recognise. Awful, shameful...

Weetabixandshreddies · 14/03/2019 12:39

glenthebattleostrich

But apparently this will never happen, is not being planned for, is a figment of the imagination of "Project Fear"?

TonightJosephine · 14/03/2019 13:10

The only "Project Fear" was on the leave side. If only the remain side had come up with this silly slogan first.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/03/2019 13:13

tonight

I was just looking at the old thread titles

And there was one saying that 7 million immigrants would arrive if we didnt leave the EU

Now THATS a project fear example

Anon10 · 14/03/2019 13:26

MadamMim... dear lord... this is exactly the problem and the reason why we are in this mess. You don’t even understand your own rationale for voting to leave. I won’t reiterate what others have said about nato etc but this is the problem, misguided leave voters. Wake up. There are NO benefits to Brexit. If you have children (and grandchildren) think about their future.
Brexit will mean economic chaos and downturn, more austerity, putting the final nail in the NHS’ coffin, and losing the rights that being in Europe allows us.

Frosties567 · 14/03/2019 13:35

Voted remain the first time.
No to a second referendum.
If one took place would vote leave. To me respecting our democracy is much more important than staying in the EU.
Seems like our country is being run by a load undemocratic MPs at the moment.

TonightJosephine · 14/03/2019 13:40

Do you think the leave campaign respected democracy when they cheated in order to win? Hmm

Batsypatsy · 14/03/2019 13:42

Yes i think we need a second referendum due to the lies we were told the first time. I voted remain and would again.

AguerosAngel · 14/03/2019 13:42

Voted Remain, would vote Remain in a 2nd referendum.

Mookatron · 14/03/2019 13:43

Seriously, Frosties? You think respecting the result of a referendum that was never part of our parliamentary democracy in the first place, was based on the use of proven illegal tactics, and has been shown time and time again to be a bad idea for the people of this country is respecting democracy? And if you really believe that, how does another referendum disrespect democracy?

buckeejit · 14/03/2019 13:43

No to another referendum. Voted remain last time, would vote leave this time.

Mookatron · 14/03/2019 13:45

Why have you changed your mind buckeejit?

ChocChocButtons · 14/03/2019 13:50

I would vote to leave.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 14/03/2019 13:57

I don’t actually think people have changed their minds much in 2 years. Still loads of leavers who want to leave.

Maybe there should be a third option.

PhilomenaButterfly · 14/03/2019 13:59

Yes, leave, like last time.

ketchupormayo · 14/03/2019 14:07

I was remainer my husband was a leaver. He would now vote to remain

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 14/03/2019 14:14

I don't understand why the default response to a second referendum is "you can't just keep asking until you get the answer you want" when it would be posing a different question. The first referendum was basically a choice between maintaining the status quo or taking a leap into the dark. A second referendum would deal with the specifics, so whether the public still want to leave even if the only alternative would be to crash out with no deal, something a lot of people didn't even consider when they voted the first time. I don't understand why giving people a choice between remain or Brexit is considered democratic but giving them a choice about what kind of Brexit they are prepared to accept isn't democratic.

user1480880826 · 14/03/2019 14:17

There’s nothing undemocratic about another vote. The results will show us how the population feel. A lot has changed since the last vote and people better understand what the repercussions of leaving the EU are. Not to mention that the leave campaign broke the law the first time round (although they would probably do that same again!).

Also, the government are having multiple votes on the terms of the agreement so why can’t the population have multiple votes?

Figmentofmyimagination · 14/03/2019 14:19

I’d like to see parliament revoke article 50 on a cross-party basis with a free vote and without a second referendum and then wait to see what happens.

In the next general election, for this to continue, one party will need to put a fresh referendum in their manifesto. I wonder which of them would dare, after this cataclysmic mess.

user1480880826 · 14/03/2019 14:19

The polls suggest otherwise. A lot of people have changed their minds. Perhaps not the people that you know but that’s hardly a representative sample is it?

time4chocolate · 14/03/2019 14:23

A second referendum would deal with the specifics the specifics being how do we leave 'no deal' or 'WA'

If you add in a remain option you aren't then asking the country to deal with 'the specifics' you are having another attempt at getting a different result. That's how I see it anyway.

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