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Hypothetical; General Election has just been called...

244 replies

Thadeus · 13/03/2019 12:51

....how are you going to vote, would you even bother?

OP posts:
TalkinPaece · 13/03/2019 15:00

THE UK NEEDS ELECTORAL REFORM
First past the post is no longer fit for purpose

AbsolutelyValidNonBullshit · 13/03/2019 15:03

First past the post is no longer fit for purpose

100%

icannotremember · 13/03/2019 15:08

Anyone offering Revoke or a PV.

I vote in Gorton, it's always going to be Labour who wins here.

TonightJosephine · 13/03/2019 15:08

Yes. Bin off Brexit and bring on electoral reform, for the love of God.

Whatdoesitmatteranyway · 13/03/2019 15:08

However anything other than FPTP will give a hung parliament and what you see at the moment is a shit show that comes when no one party has a majority

KendraKarr · 13/03/2019 15:08

Not Conservative. This country will have no public services left.

Education is my biggest concern, money is rapidly running out.

A national strike of all public services needs to take place. All combine to protest before we have no services left. Society is a mess.

TeacupDrama · 13/03/2019 15:09

I live in a lib dem / SNP marginal
so

  1. I won't vote for any party with Corbyn Abbott McDonell in charge this is almost definitely the worst option racist anti-semitic misogynist and incompetent
  2. Lib dem I don't believe a man can become a woman or vice versa and this matters to me terrible
  3. I don't want Scottish independence or named persons disastrous
  4. Don't like current leaders/ potential leaders of conservatives either or how they have dealt with brexit bad
when you are dealing with bad, terrible disastrous and worst options going for 4 which is just bad or 2 which is terrible is not exactly heart warming surely out of 65 million people we could have better options it's like USA with 250 million people and the best was Trump or Clinton
FishesaPlenty · 13/03/2019 15:09

Safe Labour/Leave area here (why I live here is beyond me) with a Remain Labour MP. I'd normally waste my vote on the LibDems (about 2% of the vote in the last election) but it'll have to be Labour this time, despite Corbyn.

I'd like another coalition government of some sort, it seems to keep the worst excesses of the individual ideologies in check to some extent.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 13/03/2019 15:11

So what's left, Teacup?

I've been thinking the same and I see no solution.

TonightJosephine · 13/03/2019 15:14

However anything other than FPTP will give a hung parliament and what you see at the moment is a shit show that comes when no one party has a majority

This parliament is an unintended hung parliament. We are only in this situation because Theresa May wanted to increase her majority to allow her to continue to force through a Tory Brexit without needing to consult any other parties. Even after her humiliating election defeat, she didn't learn her lesson. It's all been about keeping the ERG and the DUP on side, with no thought given to the fact that the whole of parliament was going to have a vote on the withdrawal agreement. Since she couldn't even get the support of her own side, we are where we are.

If you have an electoral system which is aimed at actually representing the range of views within the electorate, rather than ensuring that someone gets a majority, you have to work differently. You don't expect a majority, you expect to form a coalition, which means you have to compromise and act more like grown ups.

I'm all for it.

FishesaPlenty · 13/03/2019 15:14

Safe Labour/Leave area here

Although I expect if a substantial number of Labour Leavers switched to Con or UKIP that might change.

MirandaWest · 13/03/2019 15:14

I have never not voted, but don’t know who I would vote for.

I live in a conservative strong hold so there is little point in my voting anyway - but if we all felt that then nothing would change

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 13/03/2019 15:16

Thankfully my current MP is a Tigger. Would vote for them

Rainbunny · 13/03/2019 15:17

Lib Dem as I won't vote for Labour under Corbyn.

Lifeover · 13/03/2019 15:19

I'm a floating voter and have voted for Tories, Labour, lib dem and green in the past. There is no way I could vote for Corbyn et al. I would have to vote Tory but more to keep Corbyn out than to keep the Tories in who I think are the lesser of two very incompetent and dangerous evils.

AbsolutelyValidNonBullshit · 13/03/2019 15:20

I'm all for more deliberate hung parliaments as they are a genuine honest representation of the votes of the population. And it encourages cross party working. That is one of the most stupid aspects of the current shit storm. From the word go, there should have been a commitment to cross party discussions and trying to reach a consensus KNOWING as they knew that there were so many different opinions in Westminster that getting anything through based on just one party's opinions was going to be a non starter. That and the red lines. And not having given any thought to the Irish situation in the first place.

Topseyt · 13/03/2019 15:22

Probably LibDem.

I'll be honest, I struggle to justify giving my vote to any of the major parties these days. They are all a complete shambles, along with the Brexit shitshow.

I always like to vote though.

First Past the Post needs to go. It was only any use when politics was just a two horse race. Now that things are so much more complex, it just doesn't work anymore.

Lifeover · 13/03/2019 15:24

Ideally Labour would bring in a new centralist leader and ditch the 6th form committee leadership trio. Then they would win - this country needs a change in government every few years to keep everything in balance - Tories make money, Labour spend - its a good cycle to have

Biker47 · 13/03/2019 15:24

Conservative, I live in a Labour safe seat where a cabbage with a red tie on, would get, and does get voted in year after year.

TonightJosephine · 13/03/2019 15:31

I would have to vote Tory but more to keep Corbyn out than to keep the Tories in who I think are the lesser of two very incompetent and dangerous evils.

I'm also a floating voter but I am struggling to imagine how any Labour government (even under Corbyn) could possibly be more incompetent and dangerous than the current Tory government.

Corbyn's Brexit proposals are actually workable.

PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 13/03/2019 15:32

Anything to keep Labour out

Ideally I'd vote liberal - but it would be wasted

SusanWalker · 13/03/2019 15:34

I'm thinking lib dem or TIG. But our prospective labour candidate works hard for our local Europe group, running street stalls and campaigning against brexit which makes me tempted.

TeacupDrama · 13/03/2019 15:34

Chardonnay

that is my point there is absolutely no party worth voting for or whose policies I remotely agree with being realistic I would never agree with everything on a manifesto but I have generally found one I like more than the others

I want a party that rewards hard work and enterprise, not seeing them as an endless tax source ( in my opinion tax and national insurance together should never be more than 50%) and one that cares about those who genuinely need help and for those who care for the vulnerable / sick / elderly at home so saving NHS and social services a fortune; giving them at least the minimum wage for doing this and decent respite ( 5-6 weeks a year ie annual leave)
that would concentrate on the basics of education, health, police security and have a genuine conversation about what can't be afforded universally and therefore is removed from tax, education NHS provision not providing support for the latest hobby horses of untested theories and curb expenses claiming and tax dodging stop keep changing curriculums, testing regimes, reduce red tape tick box exercises where it is more important to tick the box than actually do what the box is about too much of education and medicine is defensive unnecessarily

some people may have a good constituency MP so can vote for them despite the notional party allegiance I don't have an MP that cares about locals either

Sweetpea55 · 13/03/2019 15:40

I'm sick of politics.. Brexit and all parties
Im a political agnostic

LaurieFairyCake · 13/03/2019 15:41

Obviously Lib Dem

I'm a Remainer

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